your begining to sound very bitter.

Check the stats, normally one of your favorite things to do!

Then please come back to tell me I'm wrong.

why dont you dig out the stats when colburn played on the wing because the stats on the super league site will be mixed with the games he played in the centres and 2nd row as well.

i'm glad your all happy with his signing and hope he goes well for you.

Listen, you can laugh all you want, your club has signed a player on the downslide who has been garbage for the last 3 seasons at Wigan, it is as simple as that.

listen? cant i just read it?



unfortunatley for calderwood noble doesn't like his type of winger. hopefully we'll see him play at the level we all know he can.

What level is that and how long ago was it?

What do you mean Noble doesn't like his style of wing play?

against leeds in the play offs 2008.

looking the wingers noble signs vaikona, volcano, pryce and tupou he likes big powerful wingers. i just got the feeling, and a lot of wigan fans agree, that nobles style doesn't suit calderwood.

anyway thread drift!

One game!

Like Amos Roberts if reports are to be believed?

I agree and there was me thinking you just might miss this place, guess not!

There is a possibility the that word is now 'could'

the play off wasn't tha long ago was it?

yeah i dont really know what to make of that. i havent seen roberts play a awful lot in recent years but always thought he was quite similar to sing, maybe wrong though.

Or maybe your wrong about the type of wingers Noble wants at his club?

Face facts, Calderwood is well past his best and Noble can see this, hence why he got rid!

i can only go with players hes actually signed. he may want roberts to play full back?

if hes that past his best how come he had one of his best games a few months ago? from watching him more closely since his siging was first rumoured hes changed his game slightly, he had to tbh, and hopefully it will pay dividends.

if i had so much dislike for a player i'd just sit back and watch his sure to be rubbish displays not witter on about him at every given chance.

1. St Helens
2. Leeds
3. Warrington
4. Hull
5. Wigan
6. Catalan
7. Huddersfield
8. Bradford
9. Cas
10. Hull KR
11. Harlequins
12. Salford
13. Wakefield
14. Celtic

id say id largely agree with that, except id perhaps swap Bradford for Warrington, can see them steam rolling a lot of teams with that pack (but ultimately lacking the backs to do well in the playoffs)

cant see Rovers and Hull any higher than 8th at the moment, both are looking very average on paper IMO

1.Leeds
2.Warrington
3.Bulls
4.Saints
5.Wigan
6.HullKR
7.Hull FC
8.Catalan
9.Huddersfeild
10.Wakey
11.Quins
12.Castleford
13.Salford
14.Celtic

1 Leeds
2 St Helens
3 Hull
4 Wigan
5 Hull K R
6 Warrington
7 Bradford
8 Catalans
9 Wakefield
10 Huddersfield
11 Castleford
12 Salford
13 Quins
14 Celtic

you all think you will finish above us again. good luck to you.
hust ask the bookies what they think

oops spelling mistake

What did the bookies think at the start of the last season?

Mark Calderwood or Liam Colbon, I don't think you'll find many neutrals saying Hull have got the worst of the two there. Time will tell, I'm confident about our current international winger though for next season.

Oh, and

1. Hull KR
2. St. Helens
3. Leeds Rhinos
4. Wigan
5. Catalans
6. Warrington
7. Bradford
8. Huddersfield
9. Harlequins
10. Castleford Tigers
11. Wakefield
12. Celtic Crusaders
13. Salford
14.Hull FC

Leeds
St Helens
Warrington
Catalans
Wigan
Huddersfield
Bradford
Hull FC
Hull KR
Castleford
Wakefield
Harlequins
Celtic
Salford

If Fielden returns to somewhere neer his old from like he did against Leeds this season, he is miles better than Vella.

I dont rate Coley either but watching him every week he is a very hard working player and good to have in the pack.

Feka has lost weight so will be even better this season as he will stay on longer.

Who is better on the wing than Richards in super league, Donald is the only one who comes close, but Donald cant Kick and is not as good in the air as Richards, and is also not as versitile, Richards is also a decent leader.

Pryce will suprise alot of people, he will be a quality player, just look at him, he is built for it, with a good centre he will not be stopped on the wing.

Phelps is a good utility player, I would rather play some youngsters, but we have him and he does the job, him and Smith will have to show how good they are this season, they came half way through last season, we surley have not seen the best of either of them.

Goulding, is slowly moving towards super league standard, he is a very quick creative player, he will make it.
Ainscough will be a star.

Roberts has signed but has not been anounced, great signing, but dont see the need for him and Phelps, just Roberts would be good and use Goulding and Ainscough as Squad players, Phelps will probably get in before these two which isnt right.

Mathers, improved towards the end of the year and he will get his chance this year, but if he doesnt perform Richards will play there and he is as good as anyone at Full-back, he is better in the air than anyone in the league.

Tomkins will also be a great player.

Yes there are teams with good squads but, we have more strength in deapth than any team outside the top 2. And one of the top 4 starting 13's.
For people on here to say Hull KR will finish above Wigan is just silly, I like the optimism, but its just not going to happen. There are only about 3-4 Hull KR players that could get in the Wigan team.

Reckon Rovers will improve on last seasons seventh position and confident they will do so if they reach a higher level of consistency. Its no good beating the top teams and then failing to put lower sides to the sword.

I see that most punters expect another decent season from Catalans.