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| Quote ="Bandito"Reason being it does not matter what I think, what you think, or what anyone else thinks, it is pointless. Threads like this, and the Calderwood/Fox one are a waste of time. If Dobson played for Castleford you would not of even started it, I doubt you would even think it.
I cannot think of one aspect of Dobsons game that is better than Long's, Deacon's, or Burrow's.
For the record I think Long is twice the player Dobson will ever be.
Does that make you happy?'"
Yes it does - thanks
And no if Dobson played for Cas I wouldn't suggest it at all. I don't care about Cas so why would I? I only care about Rovers. And these forums are about discussion, which is what this is. Dobson's best feature is his kicking game but it is his try scoring and running of the ball that I am looking forward to.
Rovers have kept a fairly stable squad with mainly like for like replacements. As yet in super league Rovers have never been in good form, they've only had good games.
I am predicting that in 2009 rovers will hit form at some point and go on a decent winning streak - I think Dobson will be at the hub of that because from what I've seen of him he's brilliant and can only get better.
Dobson will be the best scrum half in the league next year and Sean Long will be average.
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| Is Dobson a Hull lad you've brought through the Academy?
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| Quote ="maurice"Is Dobson a Hull lad you've brought through the Academy?'"
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| Quote ="maurice"Is Dobson a Hull lad you've brought through the Academy?'"
No - same as you didn't bring Cronk through yours
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| Quote ="maurice"Is Dobson a Hull lad you've brought through the Academy?'"
With Webster going, a cloud over Cooke and no relegation, Rovers had the perfect opportunity to give Chas I'Anson an extended run in the first team and address the inadequate evidence of youth development highlighted by the RFL's assessment of their franchise bid. Surprisingly they opted immediately for an overseas replacement. Good to see Menzies getting a good go in the first team though - that's what the homegrown/U21 quota is for, after all.
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| Quote ="hullkr14"No - same as you didn't bring Cronk through yours
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When did Cronk sign for Wigan?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"With Webster going, a cloud over Cooke and no relegation, Rovers had the perfect opportunity to give Chas I'Anson an extended run in the first team and address the inadequate evidence of youth development highlighted by the RFL's assessment of their franchise bid. Surprisingly they opted immediately for an overseas replacement.
Good to see Menzies getting a good go in the first team though - that's what the homegrown/U21 quota is for, after all.
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i wonder if he had chance to tell young ryan what to expect?
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| This is all quite ironic when you consider the players in/out rumour thread on the FC board that is crammed with the names of every australian player going.
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| Quote ="hullkr14"This is all quite ironic when you consider the players in/out rumour thread on the FC board that is crammed with the names of every australian player going.'"
Because we have plenty of room on the quota and don't need to run to the RFL for dispensation.
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| Quote ="hullkr14"This is all quite ironic when you consider the players in/out rumour thread on the FC board that is crammed with the names of every australian player going.'"
why is it? all that is is fans putting rumours on there. its not the club i dont see why some on here find its a problem.
i'd guess your royston valley board has some rumours on there.
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| Anyone who thinks Sean Long can tackle must be deluded. He has been the weak link in Saints defensive line every time I watch them play. Sean Long, as with any other half back worth is salt, is picked to win games by creating chances for himself and his team mates. This has been proven time and again over the last few years with some great performances.
Dobson's defence is not great, but look at how many tries he has scored and created since he arrived at CP. Like Deacon, Dobson also has a great kicking game, either for position or goal attempts. I would like him to become a bit more consistent in his positional kicking, and if he can add to his defence, all well and good, but I doubt Justin bought him to CP to top the tackle count every week.
As for Leuluai (sp?), he quite often doesn't look interested. When he does he is a great attacking player, but for me he doesn't do it often enough. Even some Wigan fans agree with this when we have been at the JJB this season and last.
I think Dobson has the potential to break into the top 3 scrum halves next year. Whether he realises that potential is a different matter.......
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| Quote ="The Kings of Hull"Because we have plenty of room on the quota and don't need to run to the RFL for dispensation.
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Surely your dispensation was fully used up in the infamous merger
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| Quote ="Enlightened"Surely your dispensation was fully used up in the infamous merger
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Maybe so which is why we sign English players to replace Aussies, unlike some clubs.
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| Quote ="The Kings of Hull"Maybe so which is why we sign English players to replace Aussies, unlike some clubs.'"
Caderwood.....as in Scottish English
Crocker....as in transported over there English
Maloney.....as in third rate English
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| Quote ="Enlightened"Caderwood.....as in Scottish English
Crocker....as in transported over there English
Maloney.....as in third rate English
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Calderwood as in playing for England not Scotland (I thought you would have realised that seeing as he kept Fox out of the World Cup)
Maloney as in giving youth a chance rather than signing just any old Ozzie
Thorman as in England international
so that's 3 English players and one world class Australian international.
Now remind me, what have Fitzhenry and Crossman ever achieved to warrant giving them a big pay day over English talent?
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| Quote ="Enlightened"Caderwood.....as in Scottish English
Crocker....as in transported over there English
Maloney.....as in third rate English icon_lol.gif'"
That one will come back to bite you up the Iestyn.
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| Quote ="Bandito"
For the record I think Long is twice the player Dobson will ever be.
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| There are a lot of people on here slagging off Dobson, the HKR youth system, Paul Cooke etc etc. No-one has put a decent argument forward as to who will be the best scrum half in super league next year and why.
If all we get is clever remarks it will have to be assumed that you share my opinion that Dobson will be the best
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That one will come back to bite you up the Iestyn.
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If he is actually 3rd rate, we don't have to worry cos Hudgell will take him off our hands just like he did Wheeldon.
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| Quote ="hullkr14"There are a lot of people on here slagging off Dobson, the HKR youth system, Paul Cooke etc etc. No-one has put a decent argument forward as to who will be the best scrum half in super league next year and why.
If all we get is clever remarks it will have to be assumed that you share my opinion that Dobson will be the best
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Tim Smith, Todd Carney and any other Aussie that signs before next season are ahead of Michael Dobson in the pecking order at the moment but who knows what form players will have next season.
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| Quote ="hullkr14"There are a lot of people on here slagging off Dobson, the HKR youth system, Paul Cooke etc etc. No-one has put a decent argument forward as to who will be the best scrum half in super league next year and why.
If all we get is clever remarks it will have to be assumed that you share my opinion that Dobson will be the best
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1. Matt Orford
2. Michael Monoghan
3. Todd Carney
4. Rob Burrow
5. Sean Long
6. Tim Smith
7. DOBSON
7. Thomas Leuluai
8. Paul Deacon
9. Danny Brough
10. Richard Myler
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"1. Matt Orford
2. Michael Monoghan
3. Todd Carney
4. Rob Burrow
5. Sean Long
6. Tim Smith
7. DOBSON
7. Thomas Leuluai
8. Paul Deacon
9. Danny Brough
10. Richard Myler
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WTF?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"WTF?'"
He knows something you don't know....
Oh and he forgot Brent Sherwin from his list so that leaves Dobson in 8th.
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| Quote ="The Kings of Hull"He knows something you don't know....
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"WTF?'"
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