It's not the new signings that are the problem, they are all more or less what we expected, except Manu is a beast. Our problem lies in a lack of an on field leader and some of last seasons squad not performing.

:u6ewu61kIll have to disagree with that How many times has the fact that you reached a GF last year been brought up!!
Hell look at just this last weekend you get stuffed by Wigan where as we lost a close one to Leeds and you all over our board like a rash (I saw what happened on sat night on your board by the way) but when we mention the fact you took a stuffing the reply is 'Well were an established SL side, Your going down, We can beat anybody, Were still far to good for you (even though :u6ewu61k1

Our signings will come good, they are quality players that are underperforming, wether we are anywhere near good enough to repeat last years heroics remains to be seen.As for Sharpe, most realised the work last year was down to Agar and that Sharpe would have to prove himself, to now he hasn't.
As for Rovers they have the perfect opportunity to kick on, and it will be interesting to see where both clubs are when they are both playing towards the top of their game.

From my point of view a lot of it on the Sunday was just tit for tat.

On that I can see your point but the attitude from some has been of a 'How dare you be giving survival a good go, Dont you know who we are' point of view!!

Can't honestly say I've seen the GF brought up that much, and as for the trolling at weekend, I think that was simply in retaliation to the same on Sat.
Claiming we are an established SL team is a fact, hardly a gloat.
At the moment Rovers are doing superb whilst we are simply poo, as mentioned it would be very interesting to see both teams performing well.
You constantly read on here....'the know alls'..etc etc, well I'd like to know who it was that gave us that title...Here's a clue..it wasn't us.

Check the forums, count how many threads started on both forums are about the other team, you'd be shocked.You'll find some KR fans have an unhealthy obsession with Hull, born from pure jealousy.

I hate to say it Stan but that kind of comment is exactly what I am talking about (and no I didnt miss the rest of the line but it didnt seem relevent to the point im making).
We know what we are that being a side who is not going to win anything this year as well as having to survive, as where some FC fans seem to think they have a god given right to be in finals and the playoffs when if you look at the table we are seperated by 1 point, both sides have been in the playoff places this year infact we have been top this year you havent, do we think were going to win SL this year because we have been top in the past??
I think you know the answer to that which is why we dont go spouting about it.

Id more call it a kind of reaction to years of the verbals.

You have hit the nail on the head.

It is your issue if you think I'm claiming we're gonna be in finals and play off places just because I'm saying I think our new recruits are good players and will come good.
There is a huge difference with what you see my post as and what it actually is.

The players we have signed in my opinion are good players and will find their form doesn't mean we are gonna be world champions, but you seem to think that's what I mean



Not superiority, inferiority.

Your missing my point you used the word WILL which isn't a maybe or even a probably its a definately, you can deny it all you like but you may as well have said 'we have better quality players'
Like I said superiority

And they will come good, but wether that's good enough is a different matter and not what I am saying, where as it's what your hearing



You assume I'm talking about them being good enough to be world beaters, Why?
Because that's what you want to read, satisfies your need to hate us



Tell you what, right now I'm getting a huge superiority complex

I dont but I presume you class them as above average SL players when that isnt how they are playing at the moment.

all being well 3 seasons ,regular play offs

I have yet to see Manu, Hutch, Godwin perform enough to know how they will fair on form in SL, but from what I have seen they all have it in them to be above average, Sing and Tickle have proven they have what it takes.
I also think that Webster,Cooke,Vella and Fisher are above SL average, with players like Chester, Gene, Ward all with the potential.

So how does this make me think Hull are superior?

Answer is it doesn't, so why do you think it doe's?

I would be willing to agree with you but this all stems from the fact you said they WILL come good although you now admit you have no idea!!
Look im not going go round and round all night on this point and I dont have the will for an all night long discussion over it as its not that important.

Hope this helps.

But wasn't that after I made my origional point and so then perhaps you saw and with this post tried to deflect what I was getting at

Anyway im done now thanks for the conversation.

I have not read trough this thread and i post on reading the title only.

You have come as far as the players and morgan believed they would if they want to go further its down to them and not the bookies . So while your season has been magnificent so far its not that much of a surprise to some people and in the same way Wakefield,Salford,Hull and huddersfield have proven there is always room for a promoted side in SL

They will all come good, and with the potential they have shown when they do they will be above average SL players, wether that is all at the same time is another matter thus leaving me unsure of their impact on Hull as a team.

When I stated "I have yet to see Manu, Hutch, Godwin perform enough to know how they will fair on form in SL" I put it the wrong way, I have not seen enough of them to say they ARE currently above SL average. Hence the "they all have it in them to be above average" that followed.
Me Bad, should pay more attention to my literature.

I still fail to see how this makes me think we are superior?

Desperation stakes !!!

An established S.L. team against a newly promoted NL1 team (and all the disadvantages this brings) and your gloating about scoring 4 more points in 2 derby games.

And that from someone who reckoned on 4 easy wins.

The question is how much how longer will it be before one of the wheels falls off? There are one or two starting to shake now

We should not even be thinking about that, in some matches we have played poor and in others we have played fantastic. Only because your Wheels have fallen off (in regards of a superleague team that was in the grand final not so long ago) dont compare your current failure to ours.

Now do you see what Stan means RW?

With two out of three victories, both away from home....i hope they carry on shaking for a few more weeks