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| Quote ="100%RED"First I’ve heard!
'" it has been discussed but still only a pipe dream at the moment. however i do know that it is planed where the greatfeild school is.
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| Quote ="100%RED"First I’ve heard!
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You where from Salford the last time i checked.
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| Quote ="Easty"You where from Salford the last time i checked.'"
I don't think you will get a new super stadium like the KC!
The only reason Hull FC/City tigers got that stadium was because Hull City council sold Kingston Communication to BT! And with the money they received they decided to build a new stadium!
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| Quote ="100%RED"I don't think you will get a new super stadium like the KC!
The only reason Hull FC/City tigers got that stadium was because Hull City council sold Kingston Communication to BT! And with the money they received they decided to build a new stadium!'"
I wouldnt be like the KC.
It would be modelled on the Hallewell Jones which IMO is a proper Rugby Ground.
A lot will depend on Local Elections as to whether it happens or not.
If it did Speedway and Dogs will operate from the ground as it is now.
15000 Capacity New Stadium will be built at the back of the East Stand.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"I wouldnt be like the KC.
[size=150It would be modelled on the Hallewell Jones which IMO is a proper Rugby Ground.[/sizeA lot will depend on Local Elections as to whether it happens or not.
If it did Speedway and Dogs will operate from the ground as it is now.
15000 Capacity New Stadium will be built at the back of the East Stand.'"
You are joking? The HJ stadium looks more like a Hockey stadium!
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| Quote ="100%RED"I don't think you will get a new super stadium like the KC!
The only reason Hull FC/City tigers got that stadium was because Hull City council sold Kingston Communication to BT! And with the money they received they decided to build a new stadium!'"
What are you talking about. The 200 Million the council got was for Floating the company on the Stockmarket and they still own 51% of the company which they are now in negotiations with an American company to sell it for 400 Million BT own a 0 percent stake of nothing in the KC
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| Quote ="Easty"What are you talking about. The 200 Million the council got was for Floating the company on the Stockmarket and they still own 51% of the company which they are now in negotiations with an American company to sell it for 400 Million BT own a 0 percent stake of nothing in the KC'"
Thats what our Chairman told us! he got the info from Hull city council leaders! he wouldn't lie!
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| Quote ="Hutchie"if the price was right, the answer would be too
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Depends on whats for sale Hutchie
Debts to consider 1st and foremost.
Will be difficult to attract a buyer IMO.
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| Quote ="100%RED"Thats what our Chairman told us! he got the info from Hull city council leaders! he wouldn't lie!'"
He maybe wouldn't lie, however he appears to be mis informed.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Depends on whats for sale Hutchie
Debts to consider 1st and foremost.
Will be difficult to attract a buyer IMO.'"
I disagree, there is potential in the club
any serious invester would have 2.3million (it could be less now, they are the last available figures) to pay of the debts..
and then you are left with a club with a decent fan base, with a huge catchment area (if they lowered prices, did some promotions etc) a decent enough squad (last friday not taken into account) and a brand new stadium for at least the next 21 years (how long our initial lease it)
it would only take the debts being paid off really, as we are operating at break-even (our last accounts was a £4,000 loss, which is small change in relative terms) and this years accounts are expected to show a profit.
so with work, FC wouldent take much money to work, once the intitial debts (which mostly are from our last days at the Boulevard) are paid off.
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| Quote ="100%RED"Thats what our Chairman told us! he got the info from Hull city council leaders! he wouldn't lie!'"
Either way he's wrong. The Council own 51% of the company. and have never sold anything to BT
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| Quote ="100%RED"Thats what our Chairman told us! he got the info from Hull city council leaders! he wouldn't lie!'"
Either way he's wrong. The Council own 51% of the company. and have never sold anything to BT
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| Quote ="Hutchie"if the price was right, the answer would be too
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I was told from somebody reliable. What made me laugth was when he told me no1 is interested.
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| Quote ="Easty"I was told from somebody reliable. What made me laugth was when he told me no1 is interested.
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of course no-one would be interested straight away, theyd expect them to drop the price.
if any deal did happen theyd make Hetherington and co hang on for ages to get FC at a rock bottom price, they wouldent just say "yes Kath" and write out a cheque straight away.
also how many rich sports interested people do you know in Hull? minus Pearson and his backer..
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| there have been some good responses to this topic and some propogand as well.
True the KR team is playing with heart and are looking good, but don't fall into the trap. Last season you where all full fo expectancy at this stage and look what happened, do not let your aspirations run riot. The rumour of a new stadium paid for by the council, is just that a rumour its election tiime. The simple fact is that only the labour party could command enough support to push that through, they could well lose control. Building another stadium in Hull is political suicide and no party would even take beyond the "disscusion " stage. The price the council will get for its remaining shares will be lower then the intitial selling, about 2/3 less.
Things are a bit grim over at Hull at the moment, it will not last long and one or two wins and this slump will be a bad memory. We will remain in super league next seasoan, even if the coach, tem and management change.
I wish you luck in your league campaign, but do not listen to the hype, rumours and dam right lies that are being peddled about.
Just keep the belief
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| Quote ="Easty"Either way he's wrong. The Council own 51% of the company. and have never sold anything to BT'"
I'm sure it was stated on the radio a short while ago that the council still own @ 40% --probably been diluted by all the managers share options and general 'gravy training'!
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| Quote ="Easty"Either way he's wrong. The Council own 51% of the company. and have never sold anything to BT'"
I'm sure it was stated on the radio a short while ago that the council still own @ 40% --probably been diluted by all the managers share options and general 'gravy training'!
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| Quote ="100%RED"I don't think you will get a new super stadium like the KC!
The only reason Hull FC/City tigers got that stadium was because Hull City council sold Kingston Communication to BT! And with the money they received they decided to build a new stadium!'" ???
Er no they didnt they sold a proportion of the company via a share issue!!(e.g selling stocks and shares in the company).
They still have a large proportion of the company which is still owned by the council!!
Selling the rest would give the concil another big payday!! and maybe another smaller version of the KC for the east of the city
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| Quote ="Roverswall"???
Er no they didnt they sold a proportion of the company via a share issue!!(e.g selling stocks and shares in the company).
They still have a large proportion of the company which is still owned by the council!!
Selling the rest would give the concil another big payday!! and maybe another smaller version of the KC for the east of the city
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No the council have about 40% of the shares left and the original selling price was £2.25 , lucky if you get 75p for them now. The announcement of any sale of the councils holding will send prices crashing so my price for the council sale will be 60p ..................
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| Quote ="Ian P"No the council have about 40% of the shares left and the original selling price was £2.25 , lucky if you get 75p for them now. The announcement of any sale of the councils holding will send prices crashing so my price for the council sale will be 60p ..................'" Is 40% not a large proportion then and where have you got the figure of 40% from anyway??
It all depends how the buying is done!!
If the buying company buy up all the other shares until they have I think its 51% then unless im mistaken they have to pay the going rate or above for the remaining shares!!
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Maybe Hutchie,UllFC or one of the other B&W's who post on this Forum can shed light on what i heard yesterday.
Apparently Hetherington and co want out of Hull.
They approached Adam Pearson to see if he would buy out them out and were POLITELY
told No Chance.'"
Why don't they ask David Lloyd?
Seriously though, this is effectively the David Lloyd situation happening all over again as all of the £2.8M debt is owed to the board themselves - they are the creditors
Trying to find a person who will buy an RL club with this much debt would prove to be incredibly difficult...
Thank god our beloved Hull Kingston Rovers is run by true fans and not the likes of Hetherington and co...
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| Quote ="Richie Robin"Why don't they ask David Lloyd?
Seriously though, this is effectively the David Lloyd situation happening all over again as all of the £2.8M debt is owed to the board themselves - they are the creditors
Trying to find a person who will buy an RL club with this much debt would prove to be incredibly difficult...
Thank god our beloved Hull Kingston Rovers is run by true fans and not the likes of Hetherington and co...
'" But they will pay that off this year wont they??
After all they cant be paying their top earners much can they??
I mean £20,000x20 it only come's to 4mill..........................
Oh crumbs!!
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| Realistically who in their right mind (other than a fan) would buy a RL club? To buy Hull they would have to spend 2. something to pay off the existing debt, then pay whatever the assets/value of the club was (not much despite their creative accounting!). That would be close to 3million you would think. And the return? Last year 4 grand! Leave the money in the bank mate!!
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| Quote ="Roverswall"But they will pay that off this year wont they??
After all they cant be paying their top earners much can they??
I mean £20,000x20 it only come's to 4mill..........................
Oh crumbs!!'"
I would think quite a few of Hulls first team are on more than £20,000; but I'm not sure that £20,000 x 20 = 4 million
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Realistically who in their right mind (other than a fan) would buy a RL club? To buy Hull they would have to spend 2. something to pay off the existing debt, then pay whatever the assets/value of the club was (not much despite their creative accounting!). That would be close to 3million you would think. And the return? Last year 4 grand! Leave the money in the bank mate!!'"
It isn't difficult to make a business run at a large loss,especially when the debt is owed to the directors who are running the business.
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