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| I can't see Chev, Fitz, Mills, Stanley or Makali being here next season.
Due to the quota rulings, don't we have to lose one of our overseas contingent anyways? If that is the case we would need to lose two off our team to bring one in.
I'd like to see us bring in another centre to act as cover, I don't see anything wrong with Webster and Welham as our starting centres. An impact prop would compliment Vella, Fozzard and Wheeldon well also. Crabtree would be an excellent signing imo, just depends on his availability and willingness to move clubs.
I actually don't think we would need to bring too many more players into our side to be a threat to the top 2. So hopefully our recruitment will have a "quality not quantity" aspect to it.
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| The 'revolving door' recruitment has finished now , as stated in the recent YP article we should be looking at a couple of quality additions for next season.
As for Crabtree would be a good signing but as he is contracted for 2010 at Huddersfield , I doubt he will be at Rovers next season.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"We need a number 6 and number 9.
Cooke is average, sorry. Wouldnt be missed by me. Fisher I like but a faster more mobile and off loading hooker is needed to compliment.
Walker is pants. How many times am I going to read that the next game is his time to shine. Lazy, run out of line, miss the tackle waste of good cap money.
A good in your face, offloading, metre gaining forward like Mr Crabtree would be welcomed as well.
People harp on about Netherton. Good honest pro but doesnt pull up trees. Wouldnt be missed to be honest.
Forwards these days need to either gain 20 metres or be off loading after gaining 10. Gone are the days of running 5 yards and dropping.'"
The rest of the squad would miss him trust me.
They love having him out on the field doing a share of their defensive work as well as his own.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"The rest of the squad would miss him trust me.
They love having him out on the field doing a share of their defensive work as well as his own.'"
The game is a squad game now more than ever and Nev is a good squad player.
He should be retained IMO.
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| Quote ="Captain Dave"The 'revolving door' recruitment has finished now , as stated in the recent YP article we should be looking at a couple of quality additions for next season.
As for Crabtree would be a good signing but as he is contracted for 2010 at Huddersfield , I doubt he will be at Rovers next season.'"
Love that guy,built like the proverbial brick s**thouse.
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Shaun Briscoe
Ben Cockayne
Wings
Peter Fox
Liam Colbon
Centre
Jake Webster
Kris Welham
[iA new centre. Loan Kris out to a NL1 side get more experiance[/i
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[iPaul Cooke[/i
Michael Dobson
Props
Michael Vella
Liam Watts
Scott Wheldon
[iStarting Prop[/i
[iimpact prop[/i
Hookers
[iTop class hooker[/i
Ben Fisher
Scott Spavern
2nd row
Ben Galea
Clint Newton
Loose
Scott Murrell
[iGood Utillaty Forward[/i
OUT
Rhys Lovegrove
Daniel Fitzhenry
Nick Fozzard
Chaz I'Anson
Makali Aizue
Jason Netherton
David Mills
Ryan Esders
Stanley Gene
Chev Walker
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| Quote ="BobinRobins"Full back.
Shaun Briscoe
Ben Cockayne
Wings
Peter Fox
Liam Colbon
Centre
Jake Webster
Kris Welham
[iA new centre.=red Loan Kris out to a NL1 side get more experiance[/i
Halves
[iPaul Cooke[/i
Michael Dobson
Props
Michael Vella
Liam Watts
Scott Wheldon
[iStarting Prop[/i
[iimpact prop[/i
Hookers
[iTop class hooker[/i
Ben Fisher
Scott Spavern
2nd row
Ben Galea
Clint Newton
Loose
Scott Murrell
[iGood Utillaty Forward[/i
OUT
Rhys Lovegrove
Daniel Fitzhenry
Nick Fozzard
Chaz I'Anson
Makali Aizue
Jason Netherton
David Mills
Ryan Esders
Stanley Gene
Chev Walker'"
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| Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...
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| Quote ="Convict 99"Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...'"
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| Quote ="Convict 99"Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...'"
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Shaun Briscoe
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Peter Fox
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[iA new centre. Loan Kris out to a NL1 side get more experiance[/i
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Michael Dobson
Props
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Liam Watts
Scott Wheldon
[iStarting Prop[/i
[iimpact prop[/i
Hookers
[iTop class hooker[/i
Ben Fisher
Scott Spavern
2nd row
Ben Galea
Clint Newton
Loose
Scott Murrell
[iGood Utillaty Forward[/i
OUT
Rhys Lovegrove
Daniel Fitzhenry
Nick Fozzard
Chaz I'Anson
Makali Aizue
Jason Netherton
David Mills
Ryan Esders
Stanley Gene
Chev Walker'"
Are you for real, losing 10 players out of a 26 man squad is never going to happen
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| Surely Esders should be given another year? Went well last night against Cats.
I worry about our front row next year Vella hasnt had much game time this year and i wonder how the knee will hold up next season. Ive also been surprised by the huge amount of workload Fozzard has got through this season, im not so sure he could repeat again next year. With Aizue & Mills rumoured to be leaving front row is an area that needs addressing.
Oh and another hooker.
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| I'd be shocked if Lovegrove was let go at the end of this season. When he's been fit he's out performed both Fozzard and Vella this year.
I thought Esders did well last night, this month out could do him the world of good. Netherton should be kept on for back up purposes as well.
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| Quote ="Convict 99"Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...'"
Possibley the biggest crock of not written by fcimp or mattyhfc I've ever read.
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| Quote ="Convict 99"Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...'"
Even I'm not buying this bollox
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| The massive recruitment drives for 2007 and 2008, to create teams that could survive and the compete were exceptional - in every sense. New signings create excitement but continuity wins trophies. The team is still improving (despite the recent drop in form). Something on a similar scale to last years acquisitions is to be expected, I reckon.
Of the OOC:
Esders and I'anson. If they go they need to be replaced by youngsters from within the club.
Netherton. Solid, reliable. Unspectacular, fair enough - but we'd just be left looking for a similar player if he went, IMO.
Gene - unclear whether he will retire.
Aizue - I like him... but he's from overseas, is 32 before next season and is currently out of a team with a lot of options in his position.
Lovegrove - Has done well at prop. Probably worth another contract to see how he develops.
Fitzhenry - assumed to be going. Ideally should be replaced by a hooker.
Others.
Mills - Played every game round in 2008, but hardly involved this year. If he finds another club, I expect he'd be allowed to leave.
Walker - I'd keep him - especially if Gene does ride off into the sunset - but admit he is a backrower and promote a 3/4 from the reserves/academy.
Cooke/Dobson. In relation to the Brough rumour - he'd be an adequate replacement for Dobson if we cashed in and wanted to free up a qouta spot. But Dobson is top of the Albert Goldthorpe Medal rankings (only Brett Hodgson can catch him now, realistically) for a reason. I'd like to see some continuity at halfback. Cooke remains an enigma and anything could happen there, I guess.
Ins (which I'd like to see):
A hooker. If only there was club nearby with a surfeit of them.
A big, powerful, aggressive forward. Crabtree is unrealistic, IMO, with Hudds so much on the up. Someone from the NRL, perhaps.
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| Quote ="Convict 99"Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...'"
We best start panicking now then.
You my lad, have just typed, one of the biggest load of balls I have read in a long time. HTH
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"The massive recruitment drives for 2007 and 2008, to create teams that could survive and the compete were exceptional - in every sense. New signings create excitement but continuity wins trophies. The team is still improving (despite the recent drop in form). Something on a similar scale to last years acquisitions is to be expected, I reckon.
Of the OOC:
Esders and I'anson. If they go they need to be replaced by youngsters from within the club.
Netherton. Solid, reliable. Unspectacular, fair enough - but we'd just be left looking for a similar player if he went, IMO.
Gene - unclear whether he will retire.
Aizue - I like him... but he's from overseas, is 32 before next season and is currently out of a team with a lot of options in his position.
Lovegrove - Has done well at prop. Probably worth another contract to see how he develops.
Fitzhenry - assumed to be going. Ideally should be replaced by a hooker.
Others.
Mills - Played every game round in 2008, but hardly involved this year. If he finds another club, I expect he'd be allowed to leave.
Walker - I'd keep him - especially if Gene does ride off into the sunset - but admit he is a backrower and promote a 3/4 from the reserves/academy.
Cooke/Dobson. In relation to the Brough rumour - he'd be an adequate replacement for Dobson if we cashed in and wanted to free up a qouta spot. But Dobson is top of the Albert Goldthorpe Medal rankings (only Brett Hodgson can catch him now, realistically) for a reason. I'd like to see some continuity at halfback. Cooke remains an enigma and anything could happen there, I guess.
Ins (which I'd like to see):
A hooker. If only there was club nearby with a surfeit of them.
A big, powerful, aggressive forward. Crabtree is unrealistic, IMO, with Hudds so much on the up. Someone from the NRL, perhaps.'"
Agree with nearly all that, Walker is still a bit of an enigma to me, he looks so far from fit it's unreal. Comes on, performs great for 10 mins then tires badly and looks awful until he's took off only to come back on 20 mins later and do exactly the same. If fitness is the issue you have to ask yourself why is he so off the pace and will he ever be on it.
Really hope we keep dobbo, he's been out of sorts of late but will get ot back and on his day is as godd as anyone. The Goldthorpe medal is a bit of a joke tho', I'd love to know how they give out the points cos I seldom agree with the rankings.
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"You used to think that bout my posts Reeny until you realised I speak the truth ha ha
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So you're saying Mr Convict is an oracle to the RL world? Do you agree with his post, you never said either way.
I never had a problem with your knowledge of things, it was the fact you take every opportunity to kiss FC bottom, yet never recognise any of Rovers improvements, considering you are a Hull KR fan.
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| IMO there won't be a lot of player movement at the end of the season.
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| Who's you 6 quota players for next season?
Dobson
Newton
Webster
Galea
Fisher???
Vella???
Lovegrove???
I know there is 7 there but, is Vella off the quota or not?
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Who's you 6 quota players for next season?
Dobson
Newton
Webster
Galea
Fisher???
Vella???
Lovegrove???
I know there is 7 there but, is Vella off the quota or not?'"
The rules are a little complicated...
However my current guess is.
Up 5 Quota players + (non-exempted) Non-fed players to make a total no greater than 6.
Quota - Webster, Dobson, Galea, Newton = 4. Fitzhenry is ooc.
Non-fed (but possibly exempted, depending on timing of contract renewal) - Fisher (I know he plays for Scotland, but does he have a EU passport? I guess he must or we'd be over quota this year), Vella (Maltese).
Definately exempted, but ooc - Lovegrove (British Passport), Gene and Aizue (Kolpak)
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| Makali Aizue has been unfairly treated in my opinion. JM brings him on for 10 minutes then takes him off again, how can you get into a game or even get match fit having to put up with that .
Take your mind back to the world cup and look at the games Macca played in he was like a breath of fresh air and can be again for Rovers if JM gets his finger out and plays him!
You are talking about the longest serving player on Rovers books !
I will be very sad and annoyed to see him go others to go first are
Mills , Fitzhenry , Walker , I'anson , Netherton.
Lazy Fisher if he doesnt get his act together.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"The rules are a little complicated...'"
The understatement of the year, right there.
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