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| I'm presuming that they thought galea would be of the quota so mason would have been able to come over no problems and hey I don't work for the passport dept or rfl I'm not really bothered how he gets here as long as he does, what's the point in saying wat if's he is coming so I'm happy
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| You can have two passports from different countries
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| Ginger don't get me wrong when you first signed Mason I thought this is great for the British game
However, if these stories of fudging the quota are correct I feel that the signing is making the British game look like a joke.
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| Quote ="smudgersmith"Ginger don't get me wrong when you first signed Mason I thought this is great for the British game
However, if these stories of fudging the quota are correct I feel that the signing is making the British game look like a joke.'"
Bear in mind though that the club are not breaking any rules - if we were don't you think the RFL would step in and stop the transfer
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| He'll need a new visa that states his dual nationality.
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| Roofs, I'm not blaming rovers in anyway I just think the administration of the RFL is mickey mouse
When Mason was signed and registered what was his nationality?
If this is the case why did the RFL allow the registration of Mason?
My question now is what paperwork do the RFL need for his registration Passport, Visa or both?
Again I have no problem with what rovers have done however, disappointed with the RFL again
I'm sure other clubs would have done the same thing, not sure how long you have followed rovers but I remember you going through the mill to sign Danny Divet (sp), the transfer didn't go through but allowed us to sign Paddy Entat and Danny Divet a few years later
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However, I have read this since my last post ouch! 10 overseas players when the cap should be 5
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However, I have read this since my last post ouch! 10 overseas players when the cap should be 5
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| Quote ="Young Faithfull"Not trolling but how does having a Tongan passport help him. He may now not count on the qouta but he still needs a Visa doesnt he to gain entry to the country or does having the Tongan passport mean he doesnt ?'"
He still needs a Visa to enter the UK for work. As for the quota stuff I'd guess that the press are confusing the 'old' quota and the new rules. He stops being one but stays as non-fed as far as I can see. If he somehow becomes Fed Trained then there must be some other loophole available that's not obvious from reading the rules. Can't imagine what it might be.
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| Quote ="Kosh"He still needs a Visa to enter the UK for work.'"
And will have needed to declare his nationality on the original work permit documentation. If he's now changed it, he may need to get a new work permit. It's all quite technical and that may be the reason for the delay, thinking about it. If he's only just got the Tongan passport, he'll need to get the new details on a replacement work permit before he can apply for the visa. Plus he'll need to take an English test. Of course he could have used the Aussie passport to get the visa and the Tongan thing is just for quota reasons. But then if he comes to the UK as an Aussie, maybe the RFL need to treat him as quota. This could run and run.
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| True its only the word of a couple of dodgy papers supposedly quoting Mason about coming. He was originally qouted a fair few weeks back as having the paperwork and just waiting on a payment. He could be here next week or well into the new season for all we know.
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| Who knows what the truth is suppose we could say Manu coming of the quota and been picked for England makes a mockery of it all am sure that rovers have looked into everything and what were doing is all above board, hudge would not do anything to risk been brought in front of red hall
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| Quote ="gingerspice"People from different countries ie turkey for arguments sake fly to say the US have theyre children there to gain American status then fly back to turkey, where they live but intact are duel nationality, the reason for this is that at any time that child when it grows up can enter America without a visa and go to what ever university they wish to go to.'"
I have an American passport as well as my British one and this isn't the case at all. If you haven't lived in the US for x amount of years you have to apply for residency again and pay Uncle Sam your taxes, you can't just decide after 20 years to go and live there. Its true I can come and go in and out of America for visits but would have to apply again for permanant residency.
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| Quote ="gingerspice"You can travel on either passport it's the beauty of Been duel registered but he will use his Tongan passport and take Australian one to'"
Again this is not true. I am not allowed to enter the US with my British Passport and I have to leave the US on my US passport. I am not allowed to enter the UK on my US passport either because I no longer have indefinate leave to remain because I am now a UK Citizen to.
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| Ok so how long do u have to live back there before getting residency it's not long is it we have Turkish friends who have done this. At the end of the day how rovers and Mason have or are going to sort him out coming over it's all good in the supporters eyes, and really that's all that matters, I can see the next thread to start will be WELCOME BIG WILLIE
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| Ok I'm confused now hull White star if ur not allowed to enter uk on American passport how to people come here on holiday on a us passport If he has a australian passport and done his permit on his Australian status but gone to tonga to gain a passport there he is classed as duel nationality this I am guessing is how they have got round it
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"It really is poor journalism. If he's only just got his Tongan passport, he still needs to apply for a visa, which would still take up to 3 weeks. Also he'll have to do a stupid English speaking test. 7th of January is very optimistic.'" Why would he have to have an english speaking test, pray tell?
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| Quote ="Tavernred"Why would he have to have an english speaking test, pray tell?'"
Due to the Tongan nationality, standard procedure, Lauaki went through the same.
See Chris28's post aswell.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Due to the Tongan nationality, standard procedure, Lauaki went through the same.
See Chris28's post aswell.'" He's not a tongan he's australian! why would he have prove he can speak his own language?
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Ok I'm confused now hull White star if ur not allowed to enter uk on American passport how to people come here on holiday on a us passport If he has a australian passport and done his permit on his Australian status but gone to tonga to gain a passport there he is classed as duel nationality this I am guessing is how they have got round it'"
Don't know about Aus/Tonga , can only comment on my own duel nationalities. If I enter the UK on my US passport I am classed as an "alien" and would need the visa requirements or like I used to have, my idefinate leave to remain stamp. The yanks think I am out of their country and the Brits think I am here illegally, so I have to use my British passport to get back in, vice versa in the US.
In reality there is no such thing as being a duel nationality. I am a full US Citizen by birth and a full UK Citizen by parentage and I hold two full passports not one duel nationality passport, neither country recognises duel citizenship.
Either Tongan or Australian I'm assuming he will still need a permit to enter the UK on whichever passport he decides to present at immigration.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Don't know about Aus/Tonga , can only comment on my own duel nationalities. If I enter the UK on my US passport I am classed as an "alien" and would need the visa requirements or like I used to have, my idefinate leave to remain stamp. The yanks think I am out of their country and the Brits think I am here illegally, so I have to use my British passport to get back in, vice versa in the US.
In reality there is no such thing as being a duel nationality. I am a full US Citizen by birth and a full UK Citizen by parentage and I hold two full passports not one duel nationality passport, neither country recognises duel citizenship.
Either Tongan or Australian I'm assuming he will still need a permit to enter the UK on whichever passport he decides to present at immigration.'"
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| Quote ="Tavernred"He's not a tongan he's australian! why would he have prove he can speak his own language?'"
If he uses his Tongan passport to obtain his Visa he will need to do a mandatory English speaking test. If he uses his Australian passport he needs to re-apply to make them aware of his new Tongan nationality which may or may not require him to take the test. Either way, he needs a new Visa.
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"Ta!'"
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Ok I'm confused now hull White star if ur not allowed to enter uk on American passport how to people come here on holiday on a us passport If he has a australian passport and done his permit on his Australian status but gone to tonga to gain a passport there he is classed as duel nationality this I am guessing is how they have got round it'"
Cos they don't live here like I do
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Due to the Tongan nationality, standard procedure, Lauaki went through the same.
See Chris28's post aswell.'"
Fatknacker had to do the English Test beacuse he could not read as he did not tick the box saying he spoke English, wot a numbnut
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| Quote ="gingerspice" he can travel on his =#FF0000Aus or Tongan passport.'"
well if he can travel on his aus passport why go to tonga for his tonga passport
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