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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"You would run a poll on the fact you made a mistake? Im not sure what the question would be, but feel free, whatever you need to do to prove to yourself you didnt make a mistake is up to you.'"
Is this a 5 minute argument or the full 10 minutes
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| Quote ="Chang"Is this a 5 minute argument or the full 10 minutes
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It will always be the full 10 minutes with Smokey, until you ask him a question which the answer doesn't fit his agenda. I'm still waiting for him to tell me what RFL rules Hull KR broke over the deregistration of Michael Dobson back in the Summer, never did manage that one did you matey?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"If you want to include Watts then fine, still 3 in 5 years isn’t enough.'"
Wire don't get this grief though and they've been in SL much longer.
Their best 17 this season gone was probably...
Hodgson, J. Monaghan, Bridge, Atkins, King, Myler, Briers, Carvell, M. Monaghan, Morley, Westwood, Anderson, Harrison.
Wood, Solomona, Higham, Clarke.
Cooper, Blythe, Riley on the fringes but we've got players on the fringes too.
Briers will qualify, but only in the same way that Murrell does for us. So that leaves Wood and Harrison.
The difference, you will no doubt point out, is that only 6 were overseas players. They [ibuy[/i British, we tend to look to the NRL. That is a debate worth having. The conflation of youth-development with who we bring in from outside the club and from where is a red herring that distracts from the real issue, IMO.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Im guessing they also understand about mixed metaphors and spelling, maybe that bypassed you?'"
I'm guessing that, as you are resorting to joining the Grammar Police, you have lost the argument, it's always a sure fire sign. Feel free to continue correcting my errors.
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| Quote ="SirStan"I'm guessing that, as you are resorting to joining the Grammar Police, you have lost the argument, it's always a sure fire sign. =#0000FFFeel free to continue correcting my errors.'"
Those shoes don't go with those trousers.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Those shoes don't go with those trousers.'"
What's wrong with my shoes?
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| has he gone now is it safe to come back on this thread
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| I'anson must surely count aswell? He played a number of 1st team games- granted not here now but he still came through our system.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"has he gone now is it safe to come back on this thread'"
Oh, he never goes. The "TA" stand for "Terrible Attrition".
Some would say that someone whose sole weapon in debate shows themselves to be a fool, some would say that, not me, but some.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Oh, he never goes. The "TA" stand for "Terrible Attrition".
Some would say that someone whose sole weapon in debate shows themselves to be a fool, some would say that, not me, but some.'"
I've long been impressed with his ability to engage in debate with multiple posters simultaneously, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt he truely is a mass debater.
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| Quote ="Dudley"I've long been impressed with his ability to engage in debate with multiple posters simultaneously, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt he truely is a mass debater.'"
Are you Slammer from HDM pages?......
Post by slammer2010 Thursday, October 20 2011,at 7:27AM
“Thanks for that cemetary; the answer to it is to appoint forum moderators similar to how RLFans works, other than that I am afraid these comment sites are fair game for imbeciles and their aliases and disciples.
On the subject of he who must not be named, the one thing about the main perpetrator is how resilient he is. He is able to engage in multiple debates with others and aliases, which to me proves beyond a shadow of doubt he truly is a 'mass debater'.”
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"Are you Slammer from HDM pages?......
Post by slammer2010 Thursday, October 20 2011,at 7:27AM
“Thanks for that cemetary; the answer to it is to appoint forum moderators similar to how RLFans works, other than that I am afraid these comment sites are fair game for imbeciles and their aliases and disciples.
On the subject of he who must not be named, the one thing about the main perpetrator is how resilient he is. He is able to engage in multiple debates with others and aliases, which to me proves beyond a shadow of doubt he truly is a 'mass debater'.”
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Good detective work there old fellow.
Not going to get anything printed on my shirt next year.
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| Quote ="Dudley"It will always be the full 10 minutes with Smokey, until you ask him a question which the answer doesn't fit his agenda. I'm still waiting for him to tell me what RFL rules Hull KR broke over the deregistration of Michael Dobson back in the Summer, never did manage that one did you matey?'"
The one which they were given dispensation to break.
If they weren’t breaking it, they wouldn’t have needed dispensation to do so would they.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Wire don't get this grief though and they've been in SL much longer.
Their best 17 this season gone was probably...
Hodgson, J. Monaghan, Bridge, Atkins, King, Myler, Briers, Carvell, M. Monaghan, Morley, Westwood, Anderson, Harrison.
Wood, Solomona, Higham, Clarke.
Cooper, Blythe, Riley on the fringes but we've got players on the fringes too.
Briers will qualify, but only in the same way that Murrell does for us. So that leaves Wood and Harrison.
The difference, you will no doubt point out, is that only 6 were overseas players. They [ibuy[/i British, we tend to look to the NRL. That is a debate worth having. The conflation of youth-development with who we bring in from outside the club and from where is a red herring that distracts from the real issue, IMO.'" I wouldn’t disagree, I think it is an argument which frequently gets conflated, though undoubtedly linked they are two separate issues. Wire’s youth development hasn’t been good enough, but they aren’t relying on overseas players to fill that gap.
Wire need to bring more players in to the first team who have come through their academy but whilst they are waiting to bring those through they are looking to british for the majority of their squad which is what HKR should be doing.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I wouldn’t disagree, I think it is an argument which frequently gets conflated, though undoubtedly linked they are two separate issues. Wire’s youth development hasn’t been good enough, but they aren’t relying on overseas players to fill that gap.
Wire need to bring more players in to the first team who have come through their academy but whilst they are waiting to bring those through they are looking to british for the majority of their squad which is what HKR should be doing.'"
you've been saying the same thing for about a week now doesnt matter what anyone says to you you flatley refuse to acknowledge we have brought youngsters through you cant build a youth set up in 5 years it takes 10 to get the benefits really if you look at leeds and saints
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"Are you Slammer from HDM pages?......
Post by slammer2010 Thursday, October 20 2011,at 7:27AM
“Thanks for that cemetary; the answer to it is to appoint forum moderators similar to how RLFans works, other than that I am afraid these comment sites are fair game for imbeciles and their aliases and disciples.
On the subject of he who must not be named, the one thing about the main perpetrator is how resilient he is. He is able to engage in multiple debates with others and aliases, which to me proves beyond a shadow of doubt he truly is a 'mass debater'.”
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No not guilty mate, I don't read let alone post on that rags site.
As for Smokey and his Rules issue, as you were told at the time, it is within the rules to apply for dispensation, therefore by doing so, and being granted it, as we were, you are clearly operating within the RFL rules.
Beats me why anyone bothers to enter into a debate if they are clearly too pig headed or thick to accept there maybe another view other than their own.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Good detective work there old fellow.
Not going to get anything printed on my shirt next year.'"
Why, thank you young Sir , although it could be just a case of "plagiarism"
So, no "Goose Power" for you next season then.
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| Not so much plagiarism, more a case of this Slammer fella being as bad as me for recycling very old jokes.
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| Quote ="GraftonRed"Why, thank you young Sir , although it could be just a case of "plagiarism"
So, no "Goose Power" for you next season then.
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No, having people shout "Oi goose man" and the like for a full season became a little tiresome!
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"No, having people shout "Oi goose man" and the like for a full season became a little tiresome!'"
Not as tiresome as the comments you will get if you put Sandra on the back of your shirt.
Anyway this is about overseas numbers....
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"No, having people shout "Oi goose man" and the like for a full season became a little tiresome!'"
Just get it in the smallest font.
It did take me a few days to work out where I had seen references to geese from when I first saw the "goose power"
Although terrorist on your back could raise a whole new set of issues.
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| As for overseas numbers as long as we are actively improving our youth development and giving the younger players contracts and not letting them go elsewhere I think we will see a future rovers squads with less and less "foreigners"
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| Quote ="tigerj"As for overseas numbers as long as we are actively improving our youth development and giving the younger players contracts and not letting them go elsewhere I think we will see a future rovers squads with less and less "foreigners"'"
I hope not, I like the foreigners.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"... HKR should be doing.'"
In terms of pursuing our self interest, we'll have to see how the team and the overseas players do.
And as you know, I don't buy the England argument.
However, even as someone who appreciates the cosmopolitan make-up of SL, with a blend of Brits and overseas players, 11 is a lot.
I understand the club's rationale and the circumstances, but still.
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