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| Quote ="Kosh"Technically any such re-registration is at the discretion of the RFL Board. Seems that Nigel Wood has made his mind up already. I wonder if board members from certain other clubs will be as pliable...'"
Or as happy that the decision appears to have been made for them to agree (or not) to...
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| This could be what Rovers have done but quite honestly I haven't a clue what Rovers have done nor am I happy with ANY of theis situation..
Quote B1:10 Clubs may with the approval of the Board, replace injured or ill players or players transferred to
other Clubs or who have ceased playing the Game, alter the constituent members of their First
Team Squad during a Season and all such changes shall be notified in writing to, and shall be
subject to the approval of, the Board. In addition Clubs shall be able to apply for dispensation to
replace a member of their First Team Squad with a Player that the Club believes is of a higher
standard than the Player he replaces.'"
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| Quote ="Seventies red"I guess we will just have to wait until the RFL give a statement tommorrow to clarify the situation.'"
Don't hold your breath, this is the RFL we're talking about
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| Quote ="Easty"This could be what Rovers have done but quite honestly I haven't a clue what Rovers have done nor am I happy with ANY of theis situation..
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you/rovers aren't suggesting Mason is a higher quality 7 then Dobson?
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"you/rovers aren't suggesting Mason is a higher quality 7 then Dobson?'"
The RFL rulestates
Quote with a Player that the Club believes is of a higher
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mentions nothing about positional bias. And I guess in the eyes of many a 23 cap Australian with several SOO appearances could well be classed as a higher standard player. The merit and benefit of each player to a team is irrelevant.
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| Quote ="Easty"The RFL rulestates
mentions nothing about positional bias. And I guess in the eyes of many a 23 cap Australian with several SOO appearances could well be classed as a higher standard player. The merit and benefit of each player to a team is irrelevant.'"
Why not get Billy Slater in instead of Briscoe then? Or Josh Morris for Fox? Oh hang on. There are quota rules.
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| Dobson is now a free agent.
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| Quote ="Easty"The RFL rulestates
mentions nothing about positional bias. And I guess in the eyes of many a 23 cap Australian with several SOO appearances could well be classed as a higher standard player. The merit and benefit of each player to a team is irrelevant.'"
Fair point, Utterly farcial though.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Dobson is now a free agent.'"
Think that is still up in the air.
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| Quote ="Easty"Think that is still up in the air.'"
How?
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Utterly farcial though.'"
You won't find me disagreeing with you. Completely disgusted by the whole episode. Took the gloss off Mason arriving for me now.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"How?'"
Who knows what Rovers have agreed by the RFL. As it stands Rovers have Deregistered Dobson off the quota and 25 man playing roster. Hull KR In essense still retain his registration meaning he can't sign for another club as far as I can make out...... I'll await more from the RFL & Rovers to paint a clearer picture.
I think what allows Rovers to do this is the unique situation of having a player signed awaiting Non federation status and a quota player suffering a long term injury.
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| Quote ="Easty"I think what allows Rovers to do this is the unique situation of having a player signed awaiting Non federation status and a quota player suffering a long term injury.'"
The Galea thing is the issue here imo. If he'd been able to become non-Fed sooner, none of this would be happening. You have to wonder how simple or otherwise the process is, and why it's taking so long. The Dobson injury allowed the de-registration that got Mason here so suddenly (I'm pretty sure he's had the visa for a while) and the whole situation is explained by the fact that he STILL hasn't got the Tongan passport (which again would have mean this wasn't happening).
All in all I think Rovers have dropped the ball on the whole thing. I'm also wondering if Dobson's injury isn't more serious, hence the deregistration? Will he be back this season? Or at all? You've had 4 games without Mason, why the sudden rush if the Galea thing can be sorted out soon?
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| Quote ="Easty" Hull KR=#000040 In essense still retain his registration.. '"
What on earth does this mean? Rovers have not retained his registration - it's the very fact of de-registration that has allowed him to come off quota and be replaced by Mason.
Are you referring to this:
RIGHT TO RETAIN FOLLOWING TERMINATION
C1:5:5 When a Player's contract is terminated in accordance with the procedures for
Termination as set out in the Standard Player’s Agreement the Club may (subject to
compliance with Operational Rule Section C1:5:7 below), elect to retain the Player's
registration if it so wishes and shall in such circumstances be entitled to compensation in
the event of the Player being registered with another Club
This clause relates to the termination of a contract while still retaining registration. Rovers have had to do the opposite - de-registration enforcing termination of contract.
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| Quote ="Chris28" I'm also wondering if Dobson's injury isn't more serious, hence the deregistration? Will he be back this season? Or at all? '"
I thought this. It certainly has the deja vu feeling of the Webster jettisoning to make way for Dobson about it. What goes around...
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| think i've found what mason is missing
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| Whilst our board have a pretty good track record when it comes to using the "quota" rules to our advantage, I'd be lying if I said I was happy with this move. Hopefully they'll have made sure that no one else can sign Dobbo from under our noses, but if it happens they'll only have them selves to blame. And I along with many other Rovers supporters will not be happy. Whilst on paper Mason is a bigger signing, on the pitch Dobbo has probably been the most influential player we've had in years. Fingers crossed that this all pans out as the board say it will.
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| Quote ="Pudsey Robin"Whilst our board have a pretty good track record when it comes to using the "quota" rules to our advantage, I'd be lying if I said I was happy with this move. Hopefully they'll have made sure that no one else can sign Dobbo from under our noses, but if it happens they'll only have them selves to blame. And I along with many other Rovers supporters will not be happy. Whilst on paper Mason is a bigger signing, on the pitch Dobbo has probably been the most influential player we've had in years. Fingers crossed that this all pans out as the board say it will.'"
I won't be very happy if we lose Dobbo cos of this think a lot of fans won't be, why were the club not up front and honest with us and say he had not received his passport, we have all been led to believe everything is sorted and then this. Just think the way the whole willi Mason saga has been a complete disaster from start to finish with regards the paper work etc.
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| [url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-KR-Dobson-s-free-agent-say-RFL/article-3319542-detail/article.htmlDobbo a free agent it seems.[/url
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-KR-Dobson-s-free-agent-say-RFL/article-3319542-detail/article.htmlDobbo a free agent it seems.[/url'"
I would imagine the club has covered every possible angle on this one.
I do not think we would be foolish enough to lose our best player, and I am sure they will have already had it okayed that he can be effectively be re-signed when Mason becomes off quota.
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| the rugby league board are good at saying one thing and doing something completely different, ask Mr Lilley
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"I would imagine the club has covered every possible angle on this one.
I do not think we would be foolish enough to lose our best player, and I am sure they will have already had it okayed that he can be effectively be re-signed when Mason becomes off quota.'"
I do believe we would have done this although it's not the right way to go about it, okay I can see why they have done it, they know that Dobbo gonna be out for a while let's get willi over and earn a wage it's just the fact that it's Dobbo, sounds bad but if it had been Clinton or webbo would have been able to accept it bit better, let's hope the club have everything covered.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"I would imagine the club has covered every possible angle on this one.
I do not think we would be foolish enough to lose our best player, and I am sure they will have already had it okayed that he can be effectively be re-signed when Mason becomes off quota.'"
Doesnt read like that, they may have a clause to stop him signing for another club, but Rovers need permission off the RFL to re-register him, at the moment it doesn't look like they have permisson, what if the RFL says no?
Would Dobson be happy not playing all year?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Doesnt read like that, they may have a clause to stop him signing for another club, but Rovers need permission off the RFL to re-register him, at the moment it doesn't look like they have permisson, what if the RFL says no?
Would Dobson be happy not playing all year?'"
How do you know Wat it says
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| ok ok we have all had our fun especially the FC fans and the rumour mongers, spoke with Dobbo yesterday he just laughed did not know what all the fuss is about HE IS STILL A KR PLAYER and is contracted to the club. He has only been de registered of the playing quota. At present he is unfit to play anyway, if he was then KR would have had to look at other options. Hudgell will have looked at every angle on this matter, and please dont forget the RFL have bent over backwards regarding the signing of Mason, the news and hype surrounding his signing proves that. Suprised the FC fans not saying Dobbo his signing for them now if he is available seems to there fans that they are signing everyone player that becomes free Obst, Phelps .
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