i thought you meant for smith.

never mind we agree! i'm happy with that!

When people say 'international standard', do they mean 'Australian standard' - if we picked a squad on that basis it'd have no backs, which wouldn't help at all.

With Briscoe at full back, you might say we want a Greenshields, Slater or Webb style player, but a similar style of player without the same level of quality isn't the answer. I would offer just as much in attack as I would defence as a Test fullback - unfortunately I'm poo. I certainly wouldn't be able to save a try by knocking the ball loose with a last ditch tackle.

Anyway, it pains me but the Aussies are fantastic. In both codes of Rugby England are reduced to relying a big pack and keeping it tight and it isn't enough anymore. I think it is a cultural thing and it will remain very hard to change. With Peacock, Burgess, Morley, Graham and Crabtree already in the team, some wanted Carvell in there [ias well[/i, which just seems desperate. I understand that desperation - England look so toothless in the 'red zone' compared to the Aussies. Still a win against the Kiwis last week and blooding a few kids, is more consolation than I was expecting.

all in all i think england played well, but as i said to my old man at half time, the aussies have another gear were as england was at their top gear at the end of the 1st half, its a shame really because i though and hoped england would win...
now its over i want a peter fox watch off general zod please if it isnt too much to ask! how do you think he went zod???

We're trying to hard, we need to make the standard of our league better to improve youngsters coming through. We need every club to have the worlds best players in them for the youngsters to learn off. I don't think getting all clubs to blood as many youngsters possible is the answer.

I found myself jumping out of my chair when Fox scored......never thought the day would come.

Same here when he took the high ball..never thought that day would come either

I suppose he could have gone to Aussie fans kissing his badge and acting arrogant....Yeaman style.

No.

Just hyped up by the Hull fans, thats why Tony Smith hauled him off at half time versus the aussies.....four tries down his wing proved he's far from international standard.

He was talking about Shaun, you numpty.

Really



It really was a riduculous comment then

Nah he just gave verbals to wind a player up who is 10 times the player he'll ever be.

Why? Offers nothing in attack and looked average in defence.

Yet you'd be leaping to his defence if he still played for you. Apart from letting the ball bounce for Slater's last try he did little wrong. Not an international? Debatable, but let's not confuse international standard with world class. Like all of our team he was up against world class players yesterday.

I guess it depends what you mean by international standard.. I just feel someone who offers so little in attack is not international standard. I think Briscoe is an honest guy but simply isn't good enough.

And of course he'd not be getting the slating his namesake is getting from rovers fans got if he still played for FC either.

Now your just embarrasing yourself. Are you trying to tell me that Tom would have scored that try? Centres can't jump like that!

Foxy is getting good raps on the VT which is where the fairest assessments of his 2 games can be found.
Away from the HKR/HFC bitchfest.

I thought he did well in both games and has a chance to be around the international scene for a good few years now.

Guess no Rovers fans want to comment about this then?

So he's gone from the best full back in the country whilst at Hull to Mr average at Rovers



Never mind, apparently the hype is now Hull have signed a full back with amazing potential who could be the fullback for the next world cup

Would that be the same VT where fans were stating Briscoe was hung out to dry by Smith and McGuire?

Funny I didn't see you pointing Zod that way?

I'll take the bait.

Tansey hit Jake Webster with both knees after he grounded the ball at CP in July. Last night, Briscoe went in with 1 leg in an attempt to stop the Aussie going round under the sticks.

The RFL reprimanded Tansey, somehow I doubt Briscoe will get the same.

Is that the bite you were after?

I never thought he was the best full back in the country... very far from it, I much prefered Motu to him.

Leading with the leg is still leading with the leg isnt it?

Pity your club couldn't have kept their loyal servant then because it appears no other club coach shares your view hence his failure to land another team.