Unlikely and we were fine before you were promoted and will be next season. We just made a tidy sum from the Cup win and there may be extra sponsorship revenues with us being the city's only Super League club.

To be honest you should be more concerned with your own attendances. Only 5500 home supporters there yesterday.

I don't fully agree with this. We did enough to win both games but blew them. Kelly wiuldn't have had the mental strength to xhange much.

However, we'll never know and dwelling on it doesn't help. Move on, accept our fate and hope the board invest heavily this year in the right places to fet promotion ASAP.

Well I dare say, with the season we've just had, we may make that up in season ticket sales

5501 you missed one adam will be pleased you've covered his loss of income next year

I'm less concerned about JP and more concerned about what Remington Mike has spent the last few years doing, ultimately, he's the one who's responsible for "running" the club.

Thanks for the concern, but with greater sponsorship, more corporate and increase in gates from neutrals thanks to Rovers going down, I think we will survive.

On Peacock, he will be on a high salary, so he staying isn't exactly doing Rovers a favour like some are suggesting on Twitter, he has to take big responsibly he was involved in recruitment, pre season, the decision to sack Chester and appoint Webster, Kelly situation and no loan signing except a reserve winger who hardly played.

On another note if you had no money for a signing how could Peacock play, doesn't his full salary go onto the cap once he plays (this is what happened to us with Andy Last and cost us points for a salary cap breach)

They must have been saving themselves for next year if you only averaged 10,500.
Didn't Pearson state that he needed 14,500 to balance the books?

If you say so. All I'm saying is, if we improve pass sales by 500, we'll cover the drop in average attendance that was mentioned. Anything above that will obviously be a bonus. For what it's worth, I didn't want you to be relegated. I will miss the derby games.

Depends if the fans have the appetite to buy a pass for a season without a derby. What were FC averaging before 2007? Just going on memory. Seem to remember a big increase for FC when we gained promotion.

Can't speak for anyone else, I will be buying one.
As I have done for more years than I care to remember. I'm sure our numbers will be up, and yours will be down. As I said, I enjoy the derby matches, and Magic weekend won't be quite the same, but I expect you will be back for 2018.

To be honest in the cold light of day if we had of stayed up I think it would just papered over the cracks all the talk of signing Hardaker and Todd Carney were just talk as we had actually signed Addy Clark and Scruton And all that meant was another season of struggle wheras now I suppose we can dump some deadwood hopefully keep a nucleus of the team and start again

Lardy, We buy our passes to see the Cream rather than any particular opposition, although you are right to a point, that in recent seasons the Derby has been the source of much joy for us, and yes, I suppose the 4 points will be missed.

But winning Rugby is the main attraction.....you'd enjoy it.

Yes, it will be a tough decision for many as the obviously only buy their pass so they can watch the derby and not worry about the other 12 or 13 games at all. Makes complete financial sense to shell out £250 for a pass to watch that one game rather than the £24 they could pay

Theres a bit of me that thinks exactly the same. The last few years have been poor and really boring. Some serious cap mismanagement was blatantly evident and scraping through would have either been a watershed moment or more than likely just a signal for more of the same.

I'd never want relegation but in the cold light of day it never really hurt me as much as it should have, I almost found it laughable as I called it with 5 minutes to go, that's what we do time and time again.

IF and it is a big IF we can regroup and bounce back we will do so stronger, if we don't then parking will be easier on match days.

By the way can someone clean this thread up, does anyone really care about FC's gates next year..

Yes, Keith does it seems.


I understand what you're saying. At some point, Rovers had to dismantle the current squad and start again, following the cap mismanagement you've seen in the last few seasons.

Relegation almost helps in that aspect, as it allows you to get the deadwood out quicker and cheaper than if you were waiting for contracts to run out or paying players off.

A completely blank slate is a positive, but you're building it back up from a harder position financially (unless that shortfall can be covered by the directors). You don't have much time to pull a squad together for 2017, so maybe next season will be a bit of consolidating year(?), stay full time and get into the middle 8's, bring on the youngsters, make some decent signings for 2018.

I remember looking at the clock and it has 4min 48secs and I had a bad feeling and really you shouldn't feel like that as that game should have been in the bag that's the lack of confidence in that team and a few weeks ago I thought if we can just scrape through this season we'll be ok but in reality the signings meant another season of struggle but relagation means the club has to do something rather than just coast through and hope for the best

All it would've taken was for Minns(?) to have held down Evalds after that break. Taken the sin binning, take the penalty, allowing time for the defensive line to be set to face one final tackle.

Instead, he jumped off him allowed a quick play the ball and Salford had a defence in disarray to run at.

you turned to yoghurt or are you from wigan

Or not buy the dummy that led to the break in the first place. Think Minns will be having nightmares about Josh Griffin

As a Salford fan I am happy with the outcome, however in the cold light of day the games needs seriously fixing. It cannot be right a club like HKR can be left in the state of near collapse.
The rugby league have used & promoted the games by marketing it as the million pound game! how about putting some of this back into HKR to at least allow a level playing field because if we are not careful before too long a team going down will go under, I believe with us Salford we may have been on the brink if we had lost.
I know I cannot comprehend how you guys must feel, with 5 minutes to go I thought it was over.
Finally I would like to wish you all the very best & should you be able to keep Tim Sheens you will have a top coach as well as a top bloke.

good luck

They'll be putting in around £800k won't they?

more then you will ever get .fc will be fine without you

Minns had moved to the wing when Cockayne went off.

It was Horne who waved him through....twice.

This has been coming since Justin Morgan left. Poor coaches who couldn’t lay down a game plan or motivate the team. Poor recruitment since the likes of Vella; Newton and Galea. Players coming with injuries and on excessive salaries. Lack of depth in the squad due to having to pay one individual an excessive salary to sit on the side lines. That salary would have paid for three possibly four decent quality players. A team with no spirit; no passion; no pride in the shirt; no will to win; tactically naïve and poor quality players; no defensive ability; coaches with no plan B let alone C and D; recruitment of outside backs when the world and his friend knew that we needed were forwards and a specialist full back; poor discipline both on and off the field; and finally a pre-season that was nothing short of a joke that should have set the alarm bells ringing. After Wembley I thought that we had reached rock bottom; but no. And every time I think that we are finally as low as we can possibly go these players and coaches take us even further down. And regrettably I don’t think we are at rock bottom even yet. I personally don’t blame Peacock as the rot had set in long before his appointment. Tim Sheens has a monstrous job on his hands; it will be interesting to see who comes and who goes and that includes Webster!

Kind words without a hint of patronising, thanks.

We will be alright, the troops are rallying as we speak.