You're saying that Hudgell did not see or approve the plans for a major construction at his own rugby ground? Seriously?

How did I know that would get you out from under your rock?

How did I know that you'd come back with a terse one line reply?

Ooh 95 consecutive 5 figure attendances, ooh more trophies than you.........you are king of the stuck record.

How do you know his concerns were not overruled?
Something must have happened for him to want to distance himself from what was going on. Rovers were probably not able to veto some of the decisions. They were not the main stakeholder on the project.

I still reckon the Salford 10,000 exactly looked a bit iffy last season. Maybe they are scared to report below that figure.

Don't lose to much sleep over it though will you f90

It's too numb nuts

Would you take out a £1.9M loan for home improvements on your own property and not be party to the plans? Stop being silly, Duane.

I think your hatred for anything Neil Hudgell is getting the better of you. Rovers were not the main stakeholders on the project. So I reckon that things were happening behond their control. And we all know how well council run projects progress. They brought in a company with no experience of building a sports stand.

I don't hate Hudge, he makes me chuckle and that makes me feel happy. But you're doing him a disservice in trying to infer he entered into a substantial financial commitment for nearly £2M to fund the construction of a new stand in his own ground without approving the plans. Do you think he's thick or something?

Neil will have known how many loos were included in the plans, trust me

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You don't know the facts and you are the one who is making yourself look thick.
Maybe Phil Webster can come on and show you how wrong you are.

(Sigh) Clearly logic won't convince you, so here's the evidence:

[url=http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Hull-City-Council-hits-Hull-Kingston-Rovers/story-18275129-detail/story.htmlThe (council) statement said: "We are disappointed at our North Stand project team colleagues from Hull KR for not flagging up problems they had with the North Stand project earlier, on designs they have signed off with us at every stage of the development."[/url

Grimsby Telegraph.

That is only one side of the story
What about the company project managing the project who did not submit the correct colour of the cladding and the article admitting it was a mistake by them and it would have cost £650,000 to put right?
Are you stating the Neil Hudgell signed off the Blue Cladding? This is were your argument starts to fall apart.

Cllr Hale acknowledged the colour of the stand's cladding was an error. He said the council and its partners would discuss it at a meeting on Monday. Read more: legacy.thisishullandeastriding.c ... z2tcoRtQN7

Cllr Hale acknowledged the colour of the stand's cladding was an error. He said the council and its partners would discuss it at a meeting on Monday. Read more: legacy.thisishullandeastriding.c ... z2tcoRtQN7

Mr Hudgell also said Rovers have major concerns over design failings, which have seen it differ vastly from plans they were shown prior to construction. Incredibly, it has even seen the exterior cladding of the new stand installed in blue, instead of the planned club colours of red as had been agreed. "The whole development of the North Stand has been shambolic from the start and at present we are in danger of missing a great opportunity of providing a great facility not just for Rovers, but also for east Hull," Mr Hudgell said. Read more: legacy.thisishullandeastriding.c ... z2tcp6TQV3

Mr Hudgell also said Rovers have major concerns over design failings, which have seen it differ vastly from plans they were shown prior to construction. Incredibly, it has even seen the exterior cladding of the new stand installed in blue, instead of the planned club colours of red as had been agreed. "The whole development of the North Stand has been shambolic from the start and at present we are in danger of missing a great opportunity of providing a great facility not just for Rovers, but also for east Hull," Mr Hudgell said. Read more: legacy.thisishullandeastriding.c ... z2tcp6TQV3

Not at all. I've already said the cladding was a mistake as the wrong colour was ordered. Phil Webbo admits that. So Neil will have put pen to paper for the original colour, in that case. Can see why he was mad about that bit, (although personally I think it's turned out OK, probably better than planned, actually - all that red would've looked tacky). But the actual designs were signed off by Rovers at every stage of the development. Or do you think the council are lying? Certainly, Hudgell has never disputed that claim.

You are clearly trying to put all the blame on Neil Hudgell because of your dislike for him. Why would they walk out of a project if they believed what was getting built was correct? They would have carried on oblivious. It is more believable that their concerns were not being addressed hence the fallout.

Never argue with an idiot like the worm. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Goodnight

Goodnight, Duane. Sleep well.

I don't know what all the fuss is about,
1, The council didn't bring in a company, it has a legally binding contract with NPS to deliver design and build projects not only that if they hadn't don it it would have had to be tendered out which is a very expensive process.
2, There aren't two toilets, there are 4 blocks of toilets on the concourse and others spread around the stand upstairs.
3, The colour was an error as previously explained.
4.HKR only missed 3 project board meetings and our relationship is very good.
5, Neil may well have not seen the plans as Paul Green was overseeing it on his behalf.
6, It doesn't matter now, it's completed and a lot better than what was there before.
I will answer questions on the build but not on the financing, that was done to death with someone else.

Phil,

Neil criticised the toilets early in the build and has since been proved correct in his assessment. The ladies I've spoken too who visited the North stand loved it and they stated that the toilets where fantastic, More then enough and they suffered no queues. The mens couldn't have been more different. Some fans started queuing at half time and where still queuing at the start of the 2nd half. Can this be looked at as it's a serious design fault. You have single urinals been utilised when surely one big stainless steel urinal spanning the length of the toilets is surely the way to go to eliminate some seriously large queues.

I'll raise it at the next board meeting Easty

Can you ask where my reclining chair on top of the chimney is as well Phil?

I was looking forward to that but had to slum it with the others for the leeds game

Thanks Phil.