I was going to post something myself about intent, so as you have, I'll follow you up.

I can't remember what the incident was last year, but I remember a ref making a decision on a foul that had been commited. The ref had given the penalty and decided that that was sufficient due to the lack of intention from the player. I thought at the time how ridiculous that was for the exact same reason you have stated, in that nobody but the player knows the intention.

A ref and disciplinary panel are there to penalise fouls. Whether the player meant to do it or not, its still a foul. But should similar penalties be given the same grading, and ban? I'm not sure. Its certainly a grey area in all sports.

I feel for Shenton. A solid decent pro.
Boudebza getting a ban is a joke. I like Cas and Powell. However he has let himself down on this. He sends Jewitt out each week and sits watching him trying to injure and assault players each week. I hear no bleating from him about that nor any evidence of reeling him in.
Gronk clearly is a wind up merchant or a Cyclops.
Goulding didn't have the ball....Carney hit him late. Silence from Powell on that. That was a career over not a year out.
Ours is a fantastic sport governed by crooked buffoons. If this ban isn't overturned then a lot of clubs are going to need bigger squads including Cas.

If he is I want a go on his mobile court.

He can't be as a moderator he doesn't dispense enough justice.

He could be Les?

Anyone got any chives?

Your comments are rather odd given Jewitt has never even been charged with an offence during his time at Cas? Indeed, he has spent most of the time he has been at Cas unavailable and caring for his premature and seriously ill twins. Are you sure you mean Jewitt?
However, unless the panel have had more video footage I think a ban is rather unlucky.

Yes I mean Jewitt. The same pr#ck who played for Salford.
We're discussing the rfl disciplinary process. He's an ideal example of what is wrong.
Boudebza appears involved by most onlookers in an accident. Gets 4 games.
Jewitt spends every game assaulting players....nothing.
How sick his children are are an irrelevance. The blokes a thug and Powell condones him making Powell a raving hypocrite on this issue.

The rfl are pretty poor and inconsistent but I wouldn't imagine them being racist

Interesting. I have mostly seen him play for Cas, during which time he hasn't stood out as particularly dirty (as evidenced by the fact he hasn't been charged for anything during his time at Cas). Nor did I really notice him playing against us for Salford.
My point about his absence wasn't really to do with his children, but to point out that despite your claims Powell sends him out to injure players every week, this can't be true as he hasn't actually played that many games for us.
Perhaps you need to sit on the disciplinary panel if you are spotting foul play that is completely missed by everyone else?

dirty sod, should have got longer than a 4 game ban ! end a players season, then get 4 games !!!!

Irrespective of whether or not it was malicious or accidental, the fact is that french john has caused a serious injury with a tackle which has put pressure against shenton's knee joint. I'd be surprised if he's done it on purpose which is why he's probably got away relatively lightly as one deemed to be malicious would have been at least twice as long.

I'd also presume that cas would have been videoing the game themselves so this would likely have given a 2nd viewpoint from a different angle?

Club bias aside, these kind of techniques need stopping or more of these types of injuries will occur

It's simple. The third man to engage in the tackle must make contact above the knee only.

The same Jewitt that has been posted on the Cas forum site carrying out a cannon ball tackle in the same match.

Not quite, no. A cannonball is a tackle that directly impacts the side or front of the knee, forcing the knee to bend in an unnatural sideways or backwards direction. This is extremely dangerous and illegal. Although I personally don't like any player making contact below the knee when the tackle is almost complete, Jewitt's tackle is not illegal as it doesn't put unnatural pressure on the joint. Rather, it bends the knee in a natural direction and not extending the joint. Having said that, I would still change the rules to make this kind of tackle illegal. It just isn't at the moment.
It was looked at formally by the panel who decided it wasn't illegal.

Batley

I've looked at the You Tube footage about seven of eight times and all bias aside, Boudebza appears to hit Shenton in a classical, as you were taught to tackle, back into the day hip area.

Boudebza's tackling style is one of tacking players around the hip and sliding down the legs, as used to be the norm, before ball and all techniques.

He retreats from the tackle without any appearance of malice.

Shenton is then clearly in distress.

I'm not saying that Boudebza doesn't deserve his ban, but quite clearly, the RFL have access to different footage than that shot by Rovers.

Hull KR 0 Leeds Rhinos 50. The worst challenge cup final EVER !

Shenton "to have my season ended by a reckless challenge is difficult to swallow" .....he's sad absolutely nothing out of line there. Powell expressed his opinion, again , think he's entitled to. I don't thint it was malicious but reckless. Compare it to rangi's on ferres last year where there was intent and malice in it, it isn't the same.

On the flip side, I fully understand KR appealing it. Makes no odds to me really how long boudebza is banned for. However, I do want 3rd man tackles on the joint to be scrutinised and if that means the rfl looking at jewit's then fair enough. (Fwiw he is very aggressive, bordering on bailey, which is not an avenue I want a cas player to take....)

Differeng to bailey, Jewitt is the nicest , down to earth bloke ive met involved with rugby, however opposition fans won't like him and perhaps Adam walker...

The video clearly shows him going in waist high though. Whereas the Jewwitt cannonball tackle on Mitch Allgood definitely does go around the knees.

How many times does it need to be said? Jewitts tackle is at the back of the knee, NOT THE FRONT OR THE SIDE, which is where the issues and injury's lie. The Jewitt tackle keeps the joint in the normal range of motion, as opposed to bending it the wrong way, ala Boudebza.

4th best ever actually

The video of the Jewitt tackle posted by a Castleford forum with a comment of lucky guy (or similar) on a Castleford forum and supported by other Castleford fans would appear to support a different view.

The comments about Boudebza's tackle on various social media sites would seem the vast of neutral majority of Rugby League fans would seem to support there was nothing in it.

That's so last season

Rules are rules. Jewitts tackle doesn't put any 'undue pressure' on the joint. Otherwise, he'd have been cited.

My comments about boudebzas tackle were more about the causation of the injury. If you bothered to look through my other posts you'd see that I think its a harsh decision.

wow.

Either they've got another angle or they've just gone with Powell's quote.

Otherwise it's farcical. Or surrealist genius - might as well put a positive spin on it.

The failures of leadership - there are mitigating factors for those. The bureaucratic and procedural incompetence is wearing to see the least.

I agree, I meant that there should be no contact below the knee, even if the initial contact is above (ie the defender should not 'slide' down the legs).
I don't like the type of tackle Jewitt made. However, at the moment it's not illegal as the tackle did not put undue pressure on the joint or bend it in any unnatural way. It's a change of rules needed here.