1st time we've ever agreed i think, i must be wrong.

I meant with your seeming inability to understand a simple concept. Most Hull FC fans differ in their opinions from mine but most eventually realise I was right in the first place



We never had a "cutting attack" when cooke was our main playmaker. In 2005 we were only the 6th highest scoring team in SL and in 2006 the 5th highest.



Or head or dykes (both of whom were much better players than cooke but blighted by injury




cooke leaving is the reason we haven't had a decent 1/2 back since? One way of looking at it I suppose but I'd say the failure to replace him with one of the numerous better players available is another.

His role at Hull was pivotal but it doesn't mean it he was exceptional (which he certainly wasn't). At rovers he isn't even as good as canberra's previous 3rd choice half back and I doubt there'll be a queue of top clubs wanting to sign him for next season

In 2006 we scored 124 tries and cooke had 24 assists. How is that 73%?

Thank god we've got that agreed. Usually takes a bit longer

Depends where you get your stats.
Last year Kris Whelham missed more tackles alone then the whole team according to to the Engage site

So, the team stat was wrong?

Unlikely given the number murrell misses



I doubt even the exceptional mr cooke had 100+ try assists in a season though

5th or 6th is pretty good, compared to 12th or 13th like we've had since. That seems pretty cutting to me in comparison. Youre seeming to not get this fairly simple concept!

Actually GML's selling Cooke short.

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big season for Cooke this year, he has too play well doesnt he.

1) to earn himself a new deal or
2) earn a deal somewhere other than Wakey.

its gonna be interesting to see how his partnership with Dobson goes, id like to see him taking control of things a bit more, take some of the pressure off Dobson.

... and since Cooke left you haven't had a plan A...

Good effort Mrs B, but not good enough.

The 73% figure is for the 2006 season.

The 83% is for the 4 seasons 2003 - 2006.

Either is a damning statistic about how little the rest of the team contributed FC's attack and both stats validate how totally overrated the rest of the team were - particularly Yeaman the Snail and Horne, who has been well and truly found out as a half-back since Cooke left...

Basis of calculation, if you'd be so kind.

I'm certain they are based from the opta stats.

What for, Cooke assists + tries as % of total FC tries?

Aye.

5th or 6th is appalling with the exceptional mr cooke in the side. Or do you mean his cooking was exceptional when he was at the FC?

Based on, as in the film Titanic was based on a ship that sunk, but 95% of the story was made up.

I think you're likely talking at slightly cross purposes, based on different definitions of 'assist'. I think the 83% was based on 'involved', which could just mean that the ball passed through a player's hands on the scoring tackle of the set. A more usual definition of assist would be the final pass or kick to set up a score.

2003

cooke assists 8 Hull FC tries 115 = 7%

2004

cooke assists 21 Hull FC tries 151 = 14%

2005

cooke assists 29 Hull FC tries 131 = 22%

2006

cooke assists 24 Hull FC tries 124 = 19%

2003 to 2006

cooke assists 82 Hull FC tries 521 = 16%

Hope that clears it up



horne has been well and truly injured and ill for the last 2 years, whereas cooke has been found out as an ever present in the dobbins side. Which one will be counting his GB caps in retirement?

Probably means swain was our top man with 100% assists then

Why do the Hull FC fans still an obsession with Paul Cooke, a couple of weeks ago he was in Saltshouse Tavern with his girlfriend, and Neil Hudgell and his wife, me and my hubby were speaking to Paul , and in fairness he says he enjoyed his time at Hull FC.

But he always wanted to play for Rovers, a nice lad to speak to, and his girlfriend is a pretty girl.

I guess one of the women will have been diving then



I know one of his ex's and she paints a somewhat different picture of your lovable chappie

You wish !!!!

, i take it you mean driving .

Or, if you add tries in:
2003 2004 2005 2006 Total
FC Tries 115 151 131 124 521
Cooke assists 8 21 29 24 82
Cooke tries 2 5 6 2 15
Cooke assists + tries 10 26 35 26 97
% 9% 17% 27% 21% 19%

Horne assists 4 16 13 12 45
Horne tries 10 11 5 15 41
Horne assists + tries 14 27 18 27 86
% 12% 18% 14% 22% 17%

So, no material difference between Horne and Cooke's "contributions" And as you have already said, Swain had a fair number of assists, plus you have Jason Smith, Lupton, Brough, Washy, even McMenemy over that time period.



And, of course, the stability of the halfback combination had no bearing on FC's most successful SL period. Cooke and Horne played together in 94% of games in that time.

2003 2004 2005 2006 Total
Cooke appearances 28 27 25 27 107
Horne appearances 28 27 22 28 105
Total 56 54 47 55 212
Possible appearances 56 58 56 56 226
100% 93% 84% 98% 94%