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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Well 'V' was £4.20 a pint, A bacon sandwich was £4.50 and a cup of tea priced at £2.
I know it isn't a like for like comparison but it is still a fair old price.'"
I think Rovers should adopt these prices for Craven Park.
And also allow overnight camping.
They should draw the line at throwing full bottles of urine at the players though. That is, quite rightly reserved for Cher Lloyd.
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| i was walking with a couple of wakefield fans into the ground and one of them had a bag of pack up which he showed me because he doesnt like getting ripped off inside grounds he said the thing was he had a packet of mederteranian vegetables that need cooking just thought it was a bit strange
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| He had a barbecue?
Good idea, if we'd kept the grass embankments it could have been like those grounds in Australia.
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| Quote ="FONT"Agreed!
Pearson will not invest his own money, any Hull fan that thinks otherwise is a fool!!!
Investments will made with bank loans and sponsors money, not his own, as soon as he has some assets to sell (paid for by the club!) then he will be off!'"
The thing is, Pearson has invested his own money, when he bought out the old regime.
But the club is his, he can do as he wishes. You'll find that bank covenants and personal guarantees would thwart your idea of him asset stripping. Also, in current times, I doubt many banks would lend big to a company with no asset security.
One thing I agree with, I doubt Pearson will be at Hull anywhere near as long as Hudgel will have been.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"The thing is, Pearson has invested his own money, when he bought out the old regime.
But the club is his, he can do as he wishes. You'll find that bank covenants and personal guarantees would thwart your idea of him asset stripping. Also, in current times, I doubt many banks would lend big to a company with no asset security.
One thing I agree with, I doubt Pearson will be at Hull anywhere near as long as Hudgel will have been.
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So what do you think his intentions are?
He (Pearson) would not accept a loss on his investment, I guess only Adam knows what his intentions are but it all looks very suspect to me.
Like I said, there are ways for him to make a profit out of Hull FC over the next 2 to 3 years even if he sells the club for what he paid for it originally, including the debt he paid off!
If I am wrong then Mr Pearson is prepared to lose unfathomable amount of money, and this I just don’t believe will happen.
I suppose you will all want a detailed explanation of how he can possibly make money out of Hull, but without knowing exactly what he intends to do, it would be almost impossible, and as you all say, I am wrong anyway!
Only time will tell, a good time scale for him to make a decent amount of money would be about 4 years, 3 at a push, then he will sell the club (maybe for even less than he bought it for, which still makes him look like the good guy) and move, on Hull fans will thank him for saving them and Adam will have a nice little profit in the bank, everyone is a winner!
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| What part of "Hull board" are you failing to understand? You freppin' gormless gits.
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| Sorry, I will say no more on the subject.
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| HULL BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, anything more goes in the bin. A bit is inevitable, and it's not an uninteresting discussion*, just not here to this extent.
*The use of a double negative is legitimate when looking to downplay or understate - how I hate the pedantry of others, especially those too senior for me to tell them to their faces. Wait 10 years and do it on here, that'll show 'em.
edit: Oh, I see it is sorted. My thanks.
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| Did someone say AP was saving for a conservatory? I wouldn't mind one myself...
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| font banned from hull forum as people got fed up of his trolling, on the subject here hudgell is right about one thing, sl are bending over backwards for bradford a lot of which stinks the room out,it sends the wrong message out,it seems some clubs are ringfenced against any missdimeaners,is that spelt right?
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| Quote ="hull2524"font banned from hull forum as people got fed up of his trolling, on the subject here hudgell is right about one thing, sl are bending over backwards for bradford a lot of which stinks the room out,it sends the wrong message out,it seems some clubs are ringfenced against any missdimeaners,is that spelt right?'"
What Trolling?
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| Must be nearly a record for a ban that.
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| Quote ="hull2524"font banned from hull forum as people got fed up of his trolling, on the subject here hudgell is right about one thing, sl are bending over backwards for bradford a lot of which stinks the room out,it sends the wrong message out,it seems some clubs are ringfenced against any missdimeaners,is that spelt right?'"
If it is somebody buying Bradford and they can strike a deal with creditors, then I'm all for that - really good news. That's how the most recent press reports are framed, but they're vague enough and I'm cynical enough to just wonder.
If they let in a newco Bradford then that is more than a bit whiffy, but c'est la vie. If they do that [uand[/u try to keep licensing that will be 2 parts shameful to 1 part embarrassment, IMO. Though it was all very opaque, I wonder now if that is what happened with Crusaders. They'd struggle to keep this under wraps... if it's a newco, which hopefully it won't be.
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| Quote ="hull2524"font banned from hull forum as people got fed up of his trolling, on the subject here hudgell is right about one thing, sl are bending over backwards for bradford a lot of which stinks the room out,it sends the wrong message out,it seems some clubs are ringfenced against any missdimeaners,is that spelt right?[/quote
Seeing as you ask and for future reference..(misdemeanors), i dont mind assisting a black and white out now and again.
On the serious side of things, Neil Hudgell is right to highlight the farcial stance the RFL have adopted regarding Bradford Bulls, they have set a dangerous precedent imo and it remains to be seen what they will will do in future when the same scenario presents itself with another club, which i believe is only a matter of time if the financial situations at several clubs are anything to go by.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Must be nearly a record for a ban that.'"
It seems I am not banned as stated by hull2524, I have just posted on the Hull board.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"
Tbf, at this stage it isn't clear what they're planning.
Booting them out if they've emerged from admin (soon!), would be harsh. And would cause other problems.
Letting in a newco would be generous. And open to ridicule if they're 'given a licence'.
It is a very important distinction, yet nobody in the press/media seems to want to raise the issue. Possibly because it isn't an issue, it's oldco and no problems - but you'd think they'd want to highlight that. The silence isn't [inecessarily[/i worrying - there are issues of commercial confidentiality to consider possibly. It is though [ipossibly[/i a bad sign.
It could have massive implications - a return to some form of P&R or true franchising, perhaps. We've kind of fallen between stools with licensing, with hindsight, irrespective of the outcome with the Bulls.
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| Surely the 7 figure SLE bid rules out any chance of a 'newco' since it guarantees that creditors will be paid whatever the outcome.
The administrator is hardly going to accept an offer which will not pay the creditors when he has one from SLE which will.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Surely the 7 figure SLE bid rules out any chance of a 'newco' since it guarantees that creditors will be paid whatever the outcome.
The administrator is hardly going to accept an offer which will not pay the creditors when he has one from SLE which will.'"
I never saw any indication that SLE would be paying a 7-figure fee, or guaranteeing debt. In fact I think Hetherington made a point of saying it would only cover liabilities [igoing forward[/i. It had newco written all over it, IMO. Can you imagine the clubs finding £100k each to pay off someone elses debts in full? Unless they've already agreed a CVA in principle for pennies in the pound, not a chance - and why would HMRC accept that?
To me it looks like either:
1. One or more of the bids look likely to fly as an oldco. Fingers crossed.
2. The clubs have looked over the precipice and didn't like what they saw. If that's the case they'll hopefully make the small leap of logic that a sacrifice then has to made to save the Bulls - licensing.
Getting a bit broken record about this, I know, but I'm haunted by visions of massively damaging gormcloptitude. And the coverage has been more heat than light. Lots of people trying to be sensible and reasonable, while missing the point or not thinking about the wider implications.
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| Quote ="FONT"It seems I am not banned as stated by hull2524, I have just posted on the Hull board.'"
I was just about to mention that. Seems some folk assume that if a poster doesn't post for a few days he must be banned.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I was just about to mention that. Seems some folk assume that if a poster doesn't post for a few days he must be banned.
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Assume, or hope?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I never saw any indication that SLE would be paying a 7-figure fee, or guaranteeing debt. In fact I think Hetherington made a point of saying it would only cover liabilities [igoing forward[/i. It had newco written all over it, IMO. Can you imagine the clubs finding £100k each to pay off someone elses debts in full? Unless they've already agreed a CVA in principle for pennies in the pound, not a chance - and why would HMRC accept that?
To me it looks like either:
1. One or more of the bids look likely to fly as an oldco. Fingers crossed.
2. The clubs have looked over the precipice and didn't like what they saw. If that's the case they'll hopefully make the small leap of logic that a sacrifice then has to made to save the Bulls - licensing.
Getting a bit broken record about this, I know, but I'm haunted by visions of massively damaging gormcloptitude. And the coverage has been more heat than light. Lots of people trying to be sensible and reasonable, while missing the point or not thinking about the wider implications.'"
I assure you the administrator is on record as saying he would accept the SLE bid if no other was forthcoming. He added that it guaranteed the Bulls would not be liquidated and therefore there would be no newco. The bid was for a 7 figure sum, liquidation wouldn't provide anything like that and so that threat was removed.
The clubs would then get their money back by relegating Bradford and taking their TV money.
However it is now very obvious the clubs are happy to give the green light to one of the other bids now on the table either Bradford Park Avenue or Omar Khan both of which match the SLE offer. The SLE bid ensured that any other had to at least match it and creditors would be paid. One of the 2 bidders will own Bradford by next week, creditors will be paid and the Bulls will stay in Super League. A good outcome - provided the new owners do not have ulterior motives.
[urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/bradford-bulls/super-league-rivals-provide-chance-for-bradford-bulls-to-secure-future-1-4856718[/url
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| Quote ="Kosh"I was just about to mention that. Seems some folk assume that if a poster doesn't post for a few days he must be banned.
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No, we just lost against Wakefield, thats all!!
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| Quote ="Dudley"Assume, or hope?'"
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| Quote ="His Bobness"I assure you the administrator is on record as saying he would accept the SLE bid if no other was forthcoming. He added that it guaranteed the Bulls would not be liquidated and therefore there would be no newco. The bid was for a 7 figure sum, liquidation wouldn't provide anything like that and so that threat was removed.
The clubs would then get their money back by relegating Bradford and taking their TV money.
However it is now very obvious the clubs are happy to give the green light to one of the other bids now on the table either Bradford Park Avenue or Omar Khan both of which match the SLE offer. The SLE bid ensured that any other had to at least match it and creditors would be paid. One of the 2 bidders will own Bradford by next week, creditors will be paid and the Bulls will stay in Super League. A good outcome - provided the new owners do not have ulterior motives.
[urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/bradford-bulls/super-league-rivals-provide-chance-for-bradford-bulls-to-secure-future-1-4856718[/url'"
Not my reading of the SLE bid - why save them to relegate them? 'Integrity of the competition' or £100k and getting their 2013 TV money anyway, seems an easy choice.
If the creditors get their end, then that is great.
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| Couldn't be duller this shizzle.
No surprise whose the instigator.
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