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| it seems even more odd that there are more fc fans bothered than rovers fans. oh, hang on a minute!!!!
big willie's here, dobson going nowhere (this season at least) only a matter of time before we turn it around.
sack the coach! (fook, wrong board, wrong coach)
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| Quote ="Chris71"What seems odd is why go to all this bother if they are so sure Masons Tongan passport will arive in a matter of days, they've waited this long for Mason so whats another few days?'"
They can't be sure, surely
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The most likely scenario is that all will be well. However, there is no escaping the fact that Rovers look completely ridiculous to be in this position 6 months on.'"
We always look ridiculous to you though. But yeah, I take your point, it hasn't run smoothly has it?!
On the plus side, by purest coincidence and clever finagling I get to see Rovers biggest signing in a generation make his debut this weekend. Those who find themselves ridiculous... c'mon pmh, sing along.
Quote ="WormInHand"But when will this be? Rovers are confidently saying "a few days" but he was sipping the beers just after Christmas with the Tongan president and it was purportedly all sorted then! As it is he's here on a NZ Visa and passport, will he have to go thorough the whole "applying for a Tongan Visa again" fiasco again once the passport arrives? And how will the passport physically arrive anyway? Will he have to go back to Tonga to collect it?
There are certainly no concrete deadlines, and, if the last 6 months are any indicator, I'd have either a twitchy bum or itchy feet if I were Dobbo.'"
A 4?er. Good effort.
Quote ="Chris71"What seems odd is why go to all this bother if they are so sure Masons Tongan passport will arive in a matter of days, they've waited this long for Mason so whats another few days?'"
A fair and intriguing '?'. No answer for you, but have a kudo.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR" You might as well de-register =#FF0000Netherton.'"
is he a quote player also
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"Why would it happen in football? they don't operate a quota.'"
Havnt a clue as i dont follow football, its just what he's told me tonight, he just said players have previously been de registered in football,
Even though i freely admit i know little about football i would have thought that a footballer would need to go through some kind of registration process
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| seems to me rovers have bought themselves 10 weeks more to sort it out while willie is actually on the park, if and when the passport arrives its all over, if it doesn't it won't be dobbo making way. I don't remember all this drama when wakey deregistered jason demetriou then re-registered him later on.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Who by the RFL?'"
Kinda. More along the lines that an 'arrangement' with the RFL fell through once certain other parties became aware of it.
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| thats because demetriou didnt play for hull kr. the hull fc police are only interested in rovers.
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| Quote ="djlard"What's the cut off day for Dobson to be re-registered,So he can play in the next round of the Challenge cup'"
the 4th round challenge cup draw is on sunday 20th march 2011
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| Quote ="Kosh"Kinda. More along the lines that an 'arrangement' with the RFL fell through once certain other parties became aware of it.'" So we have been hung out to dry then.
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| Quote ="looking in"thats because demetriou didnt play for hull kr. the hull fc police are only interested in rovers.'"
Too damned right.
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| Quote ="sandy"seems to me rovers have bought themselves 10 weeks more to sort it out while willie is actually on the park, if and when the passport arrives its all over, if it doesn't it won't be dobbo making way. I don't remember all this drama when wakey deregistered jason demetriou then re-registered him later on.'"
This would be the Greek Jason Demetriou would it? The one that wouldn't count on the quota?
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| Apparently Nigel Wood has been on some radio station in Lancashire tonight and has stated Rovers can re-register Dobson as soon as Mason's Tongan passport is confirmed. He also confirmed Dobson's contract had to be terminated to allow de-registration so he is actually a free agent.
Taken off Wigan board.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"So we have been hung out to dry then.'"
Depends if you count having to play by the letter of the rules as being hung out to dry I guess. Nobody forced you to sign Mason or to bring him over before his passport cleared.
Anyway - I hear lots of things that don't turn out to be true. Maybe this will be one of them.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"Apparently Nigel Wood has been on some radio station in Lancashire tonight and has stated Rovers can re-register Dobson as soon as Mason's Tongan passport is confirmed. He also confirmed Dobson's contract had to be terminated to allow de-registration so he is actually a free agent.
Taken off Wigan board.'"
Technically any such re-registration is at the discretion of the RFL Board. Seems that Nigel Wood has made his mind up already. I wonder if board members from certain other clubs will be as pliable...
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| Quote ="Kosh"Depends if you count having to play by the letter of the rules as being hung out to dry I guess. Nobody forced you to sign Mason or to bring him over before his passport cleared.
Anyway - I hear lots of things that don't turn out to be true. Maybe this will be one of them.'" Oh no I agree this is a problem we have gotten ourselves in simple as.
But if Wood is going on record to cover his own back when he was in the know and involved then it's a bit off IMHO.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Technically any such re-registration is at the discretion of the RFL Board. Seems that Nigel Wood has made his mind up already. I wonder if board members from certain other clubs will be as pliable...'"
I would certainly hope they do. This club is a total disgrace so far as the quota is concerned and the constant squeezing of foreign players into it's ranks is nauseating.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Oh no I agree this is a problem we have gotten ourselves in simple as.
But if Wood is going on record to cover his own back when he was in the know and involved then it's a bit off IMHO.'"
To be fair it's all just speculation, although the RFL does have previous when it comes to protecting itself at the expense of others.
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| Any player can play in the challenge cup upto round 4 providing they are registered with a member club as a player. After round 4, only players registered on the Monday preceeding the 5th round are allowed to play from thereon in. If you want dobson in the cup, he has to be registered by Monday 16th May or will become ineligle.
This closed the loophole after the Thackray incident at FC.
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| I think a full statement regarding this situation will be released tomorrow by the RFL? seems a bit strange reading their quote on their official site,then Nigel Wood saying things on a radio station.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Have you just not bothered reading the appropriate section of the Operational Rules that have been posted on here? The [ionly[/i way to de-register a player is to terminate his playing contract.'"
Im no legal eagle and dont pretend otherwise, perhaps you are, i dont know. In any case the following might suggest that Rovers can retain his registration and would need to be compensated should another club make an approach.
C1:5:5 When a Player's contract is terminated in accordance with the procedures for
Termination as set out in the Standard Player’s Agreement the Club may (subject to
compliance with Operational Rule Section C1:5:7 below), elect to retain the Player's
registration if it so wishes and shall in such circumstances be entitled to compensation in
the event of the Player being registered with another Club.
If this is the case then it would be up to Micheal Dobson to make that descision, however im pretty sure he has no desire to leave the club and if he did then i would have to question his loyalty.
I am confident that this will be all blown over and sorted in a couple of weeks or so and Dobo will be re registered as a Hull Kr player.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Im no legal eagle and dont pretend otherwise, perhaps you are, i dont know. In any case the following might suggest that Rovers can retain his registration and would need to be compensated should another club make an approach.
C1:5:5 When a Player's contract is terminated in accordance with the procedures for
Termination as set out in the Standard Player’s Agreement the Club may (subject to
compliance with Operational Rule Section C1:5:7 below), elect to retain the Player's
registration if it so wishes and shall in such circumstances be entitled to compensation in
the event of the Player being registered with another Club.
If this is the case then it would be up to Micheal Dobson to make that descision, however im pretty sure he has no desire to leave the club and if he did then i would have to question his loyalty.
I am confident that this will be all blown over and sorted in a couple of weeks or so and Dobo will be re registered as a Hull Kr player.'"
If you retained his registration he would still be on your quota.
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| Quote ="Kosh"If you retained his registration he would still be on your quota.'"
I guess we will just have to wait until the RFL give a statement tommorrow to clarify the situation.
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| People are going way over-board with this . Dobson back when he's fit and mason has his passport . RFL will have given it the allclear
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| Don't they always!
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