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| Quote ="Pickering Red"There were 14 defensive heroes for Rovers last night and that's omitting Graeme Horne due to his early injury, Kieran Dixon who was flyweight and Sonny Esslemont not used.
Of those 14, Blair and Boudebza were beyond immense.
Priority 1 - sign up Boudebza and Larroyer to minimum 2 year contract extensions now. Priority 2 - keep Blair healthy. Priority 3 - solve the Kieran Dixon conundrum and don't risk him against physical teams.'"
We make a great team Pickles (my best mate)
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"There were 14 defensive heroes for Rovers last night and that's omitting Graeme Horne due to his early injury, Kieran Dixon who was flyweight and Sonny Esslemont not used.
Of those 14, Blair and Boudebza were beyond immense.
Priority 1 - sign up Boudebza and Larroyer to minimum 2 year contract extensions now. Priority 2 - keep Blair healthy. Priority 3 - solve the Kieran Dixon conundrum and don't risk him against physical teams.'"
Drop the man who scored winning tries against saints and Wigan and man of the match against hull and huddersfield. Who don't we risk him against?
He is a fantastic talent who keeps improving.
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| All we need is a barnstorming prop who can hit the opposition's defensive line like a wrecking ball to make our squad complete ......Come back, Mickey, all is forgiven !
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"There were 14 defensive heroes for Rovers last night and that's omitting Graeme Horne due to his early injury, Kieran Dixon who was flyweight and Sonny Esslemont not used.
Of those 14, Blair and Boudebza were beyond immense.
Priority 1 - sign up Boudebza and Larroyer to minimum 2 year contract extensions now. Priority 2 - keep Blair healthy. Priority 3 - solve the Kieran Dixon conundrum and don't risk him against physical teams.'"
Don't the number of tackles Graham Horne made in the first half count?
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| Quote ="Geoff Tipps"All we need is a barnstorming prop who can hit the opposition's defensive line like a wrecking ball to make our squad complete ......Come back, Mickey, all is forgiven !'"
No thanks, besides as I may have mentioned once or twice previously, WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUOTA SPOTS FREE FOR THIS SEASON OR NEXT!
Move on.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"
We make a great team Pickles (my best mate)'"
That's Priceless, mate. I think the guy eating this salad is thinking 1 of 2 things. £1.99 for this pile of in McDonalds and no tomato or low calorie ranch dressing or how many of these do I have to eat before I can pull a bird.
Looking like that, he needs to chomp on a lot of salads.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Drop the man who scored winning tries against saints and Wigan and man of the match against hull and huddersfield. Who don't we risk him against?
He is a fantastic talent who keeps improving.'"
I am a big fan of Kieran Dixon, but he was far from his best last Friday. The conditions didn't help and I lost count of the negative territorial gains he made trying to bring the ball out. Because he stands so upright in the tackle, he gets pushed back with ease and this happened too much for my taste. He also needlessly gave the penalty away on the 5th tackle that led to the field position for Tompkins first try.
The conundrum - is he a fullback or a winger? Cockayne was outstanding at FB last Friday and I'm left wondering if the game outcome may have been different If Kieran Dixon had played there.
I am at Headingley next Friday and I'll be interested to see how he matches up opposite Ryan Hall if he stays on the right wing.
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| Regarding Maurice Blair, I remember watching him for Melbourne and he was roughly the same size for them, I think he is one of those players who looks out of place playing elite Rugby League but carries it well, players like David Solomona, Jamie Lyon and George Rose in Aus look like pub team players but are excellent athletes in their own right.
Regards Boudebza I wouldn't of thought he was on top money (no more than £20k a season), so deffo worth an improved 2 year extension, he`s still raw, but young enough to get some good habits in him, and if we sign Lunt then he is a perfect person to learn off.
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| How many quota spots are we allowed and who presently fills them? .....I can think of Blair, Kelly, Allgood, Sio and Tilse, so that makes five ......Is that the right answer? .....I know Josh is classed as Italian, is Terry as well?
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| Blair, Kelly, Tilse, Allgood, Sio, Mantellato and Campese are our 7 non-fed. At least 2 of them must be EU/Kolpak. JM and KS, possibly?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Blair, Kelly, Tilse, Allgood, Sio, Mantellato and Campese are our 7 non-fed. At least 2 of them must be EU/Kolpak. JM and KS, possibly?'"
It doesn't matter about quota any more. Its the non fed rules that count and you can't get an overseas player who is on quota but not on the non-fed list.
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| Quote ="hull2524"my heads spinning'"
Nowt new there then.
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| Has anything changed since this thread has started? IMO yes welham and boudebza have both earned at least 2 year extensions. Horne probably in his absence alone earned another 2 years. I'm a massive fan of larroyer but he really isn't firing for me whether it's a role change or just lack of form he needs to step it up. I think BC has proven why we should with an heavy heart release him like said previous he's not the answer at fb and we have better wingers. I like salter but will he ever be anything more than decent back up? Surely Hallet will do that next year. God knows on Lunt does he want to be here next year? Is he ever gonna be fit? And well esselmont situation hasn't changed. Find it strange that bar campo we have had no internal deals done.
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| While larroyer has not had quite the same go forward as last season his tackle count is always very high,six more tackles yesterday than french john and our top tackler yesterday.I believe the best of kevin is still to come,at least a 2 year deal imo.
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| I wouldn't be offering Larroyer a new contract, think he has been garbage this season and not actually performed well for a long time. Certainly going backwards and not forwards at outr club, time for him to go for me!
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I wouldn't be offering Larroyer a new contract, think he has been garbage this season and not actually performed well for a long time. Certainly going backwards and not forwards at outr club, time for him to go for me!'"
Totally agree i think he is really lucky to be in team
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I wouldn't be offering Larroyer a new contract, think he has been garbage this season and not actually performed well for a long time. Certainly going backwards and not forwards at outr club, time for him to go for me!'"
People were saying the same type of things about Welham last season and the beginning of this one but look at him now.
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| Personally still offer him a contract but think there's something missing at moment tho even on a bad day he's solid in defence.
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| Offer a 1 year deal and see how he goes next year?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I wouldn't be offering Larroyer a new contract, think he has been garbage this season and not actually performed well for a long time. Certainly going backwards and not forwards at outr club, time for him to go for me!'"
Disagree with you RP and also Oafy on your assessment of Kevin Larroyer. At the game yesterday I mentioned to those around me that his go forward technique this year from first receiver has changed and they agreed. He seems to stop before contact and spin to make the extra metres in reverse and as a result he gets halted. When he takes a pass on at pace at second receiver he is much more effective at metre making, like Brett Ferres.
However, his defence was superb and he read and shut down many Brown and Mellor short pass plays. Having watched the game back in full today on Hull KR TV also, he put in a massive effort alongside of Maurice Blair in defence. His defensive weakness is goal line where he is guilty of over chasing and can get side stepped.
Brett Ferres or Ben Westwood he ain't, but definitely worth a contract extension. Another 2 years please.
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| With you on that, Lorroyer reads the game really well in an area where I think our defence has been horrible at times.
That second row slot of defending is where you really need people who make the correct decisions, Lorroyer does that. I'm a little disappointed with his go forward but he's a definite keep for me.
Campese is going to be a big miss for us in that Blair organises his side of defence masterfully, as much as we'll miss Campese (I can't call him Campo, it has too many connotations of his uncle who can't stand) we'll miss Blair organising our three quartets.
Salter had a great game in defence yesterday, that should'nt be over looked.
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| I lost count on Sunday how many times he went high on a tackle and got bounced off or rolled off far to easy as Widnes 2nd try showed he flew in with a shoulder charge and ended up flying backwards left a huge hole in defence for player to off loads to brown and he went through the hole were larroyer should of been, Widnes 3rd try Horne jammed into make a tackle so larroyer should of covered him but misread and shot the line leaving alby exposed. And Castlefords 3rd try last week was another poor read from him he has had to many poor games when was the last time you came away from a game thinking larroyer had a real go today and had a good game?
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| Quote ="Oafy"I lost count on Sunday how many times he went high on a tackle and got bounced off or rolled off far to easy as Widnes 2nd try showed he flew in with a shoulder charge and ended up flying backwards left a huge hole in defence for player to off loads to brown and he went through the hole were larroyer should of been, Widnes 3rd try Horne jammed into make a tackle so larroyer should of covered him but misread and shot the line leaving alby exposed. And Castlefords 3rd try last week was another poor read from him he has had to many poor games when was the last time you came away from a game thinking larroyer had a real go today and had a good game?'"
I can see what you are on about but maybe he is still trying to get back is fitness after is spell out Sunday was the first time this year i made it to craven park because of were i live but i was pleasantly surprised to see that wellam played so well you do not see it all on TV
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"I can see what you are on about but maybe he is still trying to get back is fitness after is spell out Sunday was the first time this year i made it to craven park because of were i live but i was pleasantly surprised to see that wellam played so well you do not see it all on TV'"
Yeah welham played really well i think having JM outside of him really helps JM is 1 of the best wing defenders i have seen at the club
I thought welham Josh Salter Horne n boudebza played really well and probably why we got the result we have had to many players not playing at their best at once i know injuries have disrupted the team though so hopefully a few more back this week and get the confidence back up to how it was early doors in the season
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