Possibly.

Not yet by a fair amount, but could be one day.

Id agree with that.

font why are you such a tool? i was stating what i think, rovers have imo a good back division going forward but look a bit vunerable in defence,plenty on here will disagree but its just my opinion, as for eden i think he looked bloomin good for hudds last year,roll on the new season and let the action begin

just read that, sounds daft ,good back division going forwards, lol

I will settle for a 86-85 win on Good Friday

Rovers back division were indeed vulnerable at times last season and most of the new signings are probably more noted for their offence than defence. So your views are very reasonable, in fact quite generous.

But I'm relying on the old cliche 'attack is the best form of defence'. When forwards dominate, good go forward, quick PTB, alert backing up, intelligent kicking game, well you can find the other team are doing all the defending, getting tired, giving away penalties. It becomes self perpetuating.

At times last season Rovers were able to do that even to good teams e.g. second half at home to Warrington which we completely dominated. And getting to 26-0 against Wigan takes some quality even if we then blew it. Think we had a period away to Saints which was 0-26 too, in fact that period of 40 mins or so at Saints we really looked the goods, as good as I have seen from Rovers both in attack & defence. Of course we still lost in the end, narrowly, such was our season.

Obviously the flaws ultimately outweighed the quality but why throw out the baby with the bathwater? CS is aware of the failings, No. 1 being an inability to maintain intensity for 80 minutes but he is very obviously building on strengths by adding aggression, intensity and pace into the team. And reducing the average age of the team significantly. I'm sure he is working on defence too....

As for Hull I was impressed when they won at Craven Park and they will be at least as good in 2013. I do think Manu will be missed he is a far more destructive force than Ellis who I predict will be good rather than sensational...if he stays fit. If we get a dry summer (IF!) and the ground is firm then McDonnell will be a sensation IMO, I have not seen a player in Super League with a better step, swerve and electric pace other than Tomkins. Hull fans will of course then credit it to the coaching skills of Gentle. Watts will self destruct sooner or later, leopards don't change their spots. By contrast Galea will be a model pro and a very fine player if he can stay fit.

I was as it turned out, over optimistic about Rovers in 2012 so I will not make any bold prediction about 2013. The 2012 big 4 of Wig, Warr, Sts & Lds I can't look past them but Hull are as good a bet as anyone to be the best of the rest.

Sam Tompkins
Zak Hardaker
Brett Hodgson
Brett Kearney

There's already 4 who are head and shoulders above Greg Eden. Greg Eden isn't even the best attacking fullback in his own home!!!

Good post, can't say there is much of that I disagree with Bob.

Ha. It could have been worse, we were linked with Santa Basher at one point, dodged an expensive (6 figure salary?) bullet there.

Is he married or is he not as good as his mum and dad?

shares an apartment with shannon mcdonnell

You lot really are in for a rude awakening next season. Enjoy!

Just going on his bobness and sir stan's opinion that their is only tomkin better than mcdonnel in SL,obviously you don't agree

2nd only to Tomkins ?

Aren't they just!

Was feeling a bit down so I thought i'd pop on here to see what's been happening. I then come across this comment. My you have cheered me up so much that i've woke my daughter up with all the laughing i've done. I thank you sir.

Obviously living in cloud cuckoo land!!

He is an ok fullback, no more.

If FC have paid even half the rumoured amount they are paying over the odds, he will (subject to injury) score a few tries in attack, but will let far many more in through lousy defence. If he is one on one, the try is a certainty.

Hulls defence is a lot better than ours so he probably won't have as many one on one tackles to do, whereas Greg Eden may unfortunately find himself having plenty to do.

Is it?

How many games have we played?

(sorry) IMO hulls defence is better than ours.

that was last year stop living in the past

Yer, and the year before that and the year before that and the.......

I hope CS can tighten the defence up, but at the same time I can see us having a Kevin Keegan game plan, if they score 4 well score 5

Hey that was my quote to Mrs B stop stealing my thunder