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| Quote ="WormInHand"On this particular thread, it's people citing Mason as the guilty party in this whole sorry car-crash, and inferring he's used Rovers as a meal ticket. I think that that is unfair and untrue.'"
Do u really when u read the Toulon site the owner is the equivalent of abromivich of Chelsea to be honest I personally think he has screwed the club over, if he didn't have any intentions of signing for the French club none of this wud even be discussed, he has been offered big bucks his mate walked out on his club in aus and Mason in affect has done the same, I agree that rovers messed up with the non quota, how u can say mason is innocent is beyond me cos until kr found out he was jumping ship he was still been paid,so what do you reckon ant other club would have done in this situation.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"On this particular thread, it's people citing Mason as the guilty party in this whole sorry car-crash, and inferring he's used Rovers as a meal ticket. I think that that is unfair and untrue.
Another example was GML inferring I'd suggested Toulon had made the contact with Mason. Untrue, and potentially dangerous, considering the legal battles that may lie ahead.'"
If your not his agent (which im starting to wonder) Why do you care?
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Do u really when u read the Toulon site the owner is the equivalent of abromivich of Chelsea to be honest I personally think he has screwed the club over, if he didn't have any intentions of signing for the French club none of this wud even be discussed, he has been offered big bucks his mate walked out on his club in aus and Mason in affect has done the same, I agree that rovers messed up with the non quota, how u can say mason is innocent is beyond me cos until kr found out he was jumping ship he was still been paid,so what do you reckon ant other club would have done in this situation.'"
Think we could be starting to go round in circles here, but anyway, from page 8:
Quote ="WormInHand"How can you possibly assume this? What evidence is there? This current trend of Rovers fans blaming Mason on the radio and on messageboards is beyond the pale.
When he did finally speak to Toulon it was after months of manipulative rule-bending (during which Rovers' mismanagement ensured he became involuntarily complicit) which started and ended with him being unable to play the game. Little wonder he had to take matters into his own hands, the situation had become insecure at best, career threatening at worse.
People need to wind their necks in when publicly slating him lest they lose their heads.'"
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| Lets face it, even when he was here, all he showed was that we are better off when Matt Cook is on the pitch! With the re-birth of Cook, the imminent return of Newton and the emergence of Taylor & Cox, we look to be well stocked with back rowers for the next few years. I would like to get Galea on for another year, as he has been quality again this season.
As for big Willie, well bon voyage. Several of us commented during games, that he was playing like a man desparate not to get injured. Now we know why. I think Rovers messed up from the start on this one, and lets hope there are some lessons learned. Put his salary into securing the likes of Scott Taylor on a 3 year deal and invest in our youth. This approach will get the respect of Rovers fans and start to rebuild our tarnished reputation within the game.
Another up & down week in the life of a Rovers supporter! Its never dull in East Hull.
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| Agree stan he never went in full throttle did he now we know why
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Think we could be starting to go round in circles here, but anyway, from page 8:
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And what evidence have u to suggest otherwise
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Signed a player called Mason, who took a long time getting here due to passport and club cockups . Got here and played 5 games due to our star player being injured which allowed him to play from overseas. When star player was fit and said passport hadnt arrived Mason was told to swing one due to him having spoken to another club who would pay him 3x what we were.
Anyway Mason now gone to kick and clap and we are as we were.
[uAny other questions?[/u'"
=#FF0000He said any other questions something this clearly isn't-RW
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I see on the unofficial board that the club are processing exchanges for shirts with Mason 23 on the back - is this confirmed? Good news for Philb and Easty if true.
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Never mind the bloody shirt I want two quid back for me flags
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Alas, it's you that always ridicules their understanding, insinuating it's invariably an undercover attempt to undermine Rovers.'" Do I really?
Or perhaps you are reading what you want to again.
Quote ="WormInHand"I'm being a bit mean though, aren't I, after your gracious apology last time you challenged the Mail's understanding, accused folk of guesswork and was then proved wrong.'" Yes using the HDM the bastion of facts will see you straight
Quote ="WormInHand"Do you think they're right about Mason's alleged talks with Toulon while signed for you but before arriving in Britain, then? [url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-KR-Mason-leaves-KR-Toulon/article-3581802-detail/article.htmlThe Mail state the link with Toulon as a fact. They haven't cited "understanding" as their "BS" get out clause in this case.[/url First I've heard of it, so I hope they know what they're doing. Probably more BS, though. (BTW - thought we weren't allowed to abbreviate words or manipulate curses to beat the swear filter? Is BS alright, now, then?)'" Erm no I don't.
At no point have I edited BS neither have I edited FFS to my knowledge.
Putting it simply I HAVE heard those words used pre 9pm on the Beeb.
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| Quote ="pugwash pal"
[uSports and players registrations are different[/u. '"
No they are not, they are still subject EU and English law
Quote ="pugwash pal" He cannot look for a new job without the authority of the club who he is contracted to. He is allowed to move but has to have permission. '"
He signed a contract, not articles of indenture. If a contract contains a clause forbidding contact with a future employer, that is a clear an unequivocal restraint of trade and therefore unlawful.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"No they are not, they are still subject EU and English law
He signed a contract, not articles of indenture. If a contract contains a clause forbidding contact with a future employer, that is a clear an unequivocal restraint of trade and therefore unlawful.'"
Greg Keenan, Mason's manager, is an international lawyer. I'm sure he'll be all over it.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Err, no. Another GML wild leap to incorrect conclusion, there. I'm merely saying I guess discussions were at a very early stage at that point. Please don't put potentially defamatory words in my mouth. Ta.'"
Yeah course
I merely asked a question about what you posted.
Thats what people on forums do .
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| Quote ="SirStan"Lets face it, even when he was here, all he showed was that we are better off when Matt Cook is on the pitch! With the re-birth of Cook, the imminent return of Newton and the emergence of Taylor & Cox, we look to be well stocked with back rowers for the next few years. I would like to get Galea on for another year, as he has been quality again this season.
As for big Willie, well bon voyage. Several of us commented during games, that he was playing like a man desparate not to get injured. Now we know why. I think Rovers messed up from the start on this one, and lets hope there are some lessons learned. Put his salary into securing the likes of Scott Taylor on a 3 year deal and invest in our youth. This approach will get the respect of Rovers fans and start to rebuild our tarnished reputation within the game.
Another up & down week in the life of a Rovers supporter! Its never dull in East Hull.'"
Very good post, you are now my favourite Rovers poster, saying that cabman is 2nd
I know a couple of clubs including Hull are sniffing around taylor, so Rovers need to get him tied up soon (which I expect they will).
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| Quote ="SirStan"
As for big Willie, well bon voyage. Several of us commented during games, that he was playing like a man desparate not to get injured.'"
I commented when he first got here he would be a targetted player,the likelyhood of it happenning must have been a high percentage.
Think your never dull comment should be
"Never dull in `Ull" and made into a banner.
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| I personally think Mason was treated badly by Rovers , i lay no blame on him whatsoever , Hudge got it wrong bigtime.
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| Thank the lord he has gone at the end of the day Rovers were warned not to touch him with a barge pole and all that was said about him has come true.In his defence if someone offered you the money he is supposedly going to get then he cant refuse it, but he should never have taken the pxxxs out of rovers and there supporters an ex player of rovers in australia once said it was a black day for HKR when they signed Big Willy and it has turned out true
Only concellation we have saved the biggest part of his contract, I am led to believe
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| Quote ="easthull4"Thank the lord he has gone at the end of the day Rovers were warned not to touch him with a barge pole and all that was said about him has come true.In his defence if someone offered you the money he is supposedly going to get then he cant refuse it, but [uhe should never have taken the pxxxs out of rovers and there supporters [/uan ex player of rovers in australia once said it was a black day for HKR when they signed Big Willy and it has turned out true
Only concellation we have saved the biggest part of his contract, I am led to believe'"
How exactly did he do that?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Very good post, you are now my favourite Rovers poster, saying that cabman is 2nd
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That's like saying I'm your favourite GP, with Harold Shipman running a close 2nd!
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| Quote ="easthull4"Thank the lord he has gone at the end of the day Rovers were warned not to touch him with a barge pole and all that was said about him has come true.In his defence if someone offered you the money he is supposedly going to get then he cant refuse it, but he should never have taken the pxxxs out of rovers and there supporters an ex player of rovers in australia once said it was a black day for HKR when they signed Big Willy and it has turned out true
Only concellation we have saved the biggest part of his contract, I am led to believe'"
Bit harsh, I agree it hasn't worked out and for a number of reasons and in the end he's gone to RU, but I think there was urine being extracted from all sides and we aren't exactly blameless.
In the long run I think this'll be for the best, I thought it was looking bleak when he was actually playing for us but still seemed to spend more time in the pub then Jimmy Bullard did when he was at City.
I got the feeling he destabilised us as a unit and if we can learn that big names very rarely live up to there billing then it may have been a lesson worth having.
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| Quote ="barham red"<snip>I thought it was looking bleak when he was actually playing for us but still seemed to spend more time in the pub then Jimmy Bullard did when he was at City.
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If anybody had bothered about checking the news about him in Australia and the reputation he had earned then none of this would have been a surprise. It is exactly the same as what he had been doing there and is the reason he was no longer wanted in the NRL. But of course anyone who said that when he signed was a Hull FC fan jealous of the biggest Super League signing ever.
Quote ="barham red"and if we can learn that big names very rarely live up to there billing then it may have been a lesson worth having.'"
The problem for the dobbins has been that given what was known about Mason - he lived up to his billing 100%.
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"If anybody had bothered about checking the news about him in Australia and the reputation he had earned then none of this would have been a surprise. It is exactly the same as what he had been doing there and is the reason he was no longer wanted in the NRL. But of course anyone who said that when he signed was a Hull FC fan jealous of the biggest Super League signing ever.
The problem for the dobbins has been that given what was known about Mason - he lived up to his billing 100%.
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TBF if you get the rugby playing Mason he is a sensational player and maybe he is one of those that can go out on the lash and still perform on match day. I actually said I'd have liked to have seen him leather someone but just never seemed that up for it.
As for big name signings I still think Hull got stung this way with Berrigan, another one that seemed more interested in being on the lash than performing to the billing he came with.
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| Quote ="barham red"TBF if you get the rugby playing Mason he is a sensational player and maybe he is one of those that can go out on the lash and still perform on match day. I actually said I'd have liked to have seen him leather someone but just never seemed that up for it.
As for big name signings I still think Hull got stung this way with Berrigan, another one that seemed more interested in being on the lash than performing to the billing he came with.'"
To be fair we did get some good performances out of Berro,but I agree he didn`t hit the heights expected of him I.M.O.
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"If anybody had bothered about checking the news about him in Australia and the reputation he had earned then none of this would have been a surprise. It is exactly the same as what he had been doing there and is the reason he was no longer wanted in the NRL. But of course anyone who said that when he signed was a Hull FC fan jealous of the biggest Super League signing ever.
The problem for the dobbins has been that given what was known about Mason - he lived up to his billing 100%.
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On the contrary. Despite his previous antics he was being roundly praised by the Cowboys' support for his attitude and his performances.
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