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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"We savoured it a lot last season
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Once?
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Once?'"
true but as we only played you once at ms3 last season whats your point ?
Ah I see what you mean now .. Savoured a lot not savoured it lots of times
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"true but as we only played you once at ms3 last season whats your point ?
Ah I see what you mean now .. Savoured a lot not savoured it lots of times'"
Oh, in that cup final of yours? Yes, I remember now.
It's one extreme to the other with you guys, isn't it. Sock fest if you beat us, antidepressants if you lose.
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| The only odd thing is how a week's bad weather [icould[/i push it back to 2014. Slippage of that extent, from July 2013 to Feb 2014 can't be down to a bit of snow. Could it be that the council are deferring some of the spend to next year's capital budget?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The only odd thing is how a week's bad weather [icould[/i push it back to 2014. Slippage of that extent, from July 2013 to Feb 2014 can't be down to a bit of snow. Could it be that the council are deferring some of the spend to next year's capital budget?'"
Erm in a word.....No!
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Erm in a word.....No!'"
So the 7 month delay is because..?
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| I would have thought someone with your financial knowlege would realis July 2013 is in the same financial year as Feb 2014, schoolboy error.
There will be retention on the project of at least a year, so there will be spend in the next financial year anyway.
Not to worry it'll be done for the World Cup anyway.
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| Quote ="Dudley"I would have thought someone with your financial knowlege would realis July 2013 is in the same financial year as Feb 2014, schoolboy error.
There will be retention on the project of at least a year, so there will be spend in the next financial year anyway.
Not to worry it'll be done for the World Cup anyway.'"
Was meaning if they're spent up now for 2012/13, and can't draw down more until April, that could be enough delay to push the opening beyond Sept/Oct. Seems at least as credible as the two weeks of snow = disproprtionate programme delays theory.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So the 7 month delay is because..?'"
They're hoping they will get some use out of it by the last two home games. Second to last one is 11th Aug. It was originally due for completion Late June (?). That's not 7 months
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| So Feb 2014 was just plucked out of the air then?
The build isn't actually delayed, it was never going to be ready for the regular season, and is on schedule for the original finish date.
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| Quote ="Dudley"So Feb 2014 was just plucked out of the air then?
The build isn't actually delayed, it was never going to be ready for the regular season, and is on schedule for the original finish date.'"
The original finish date for the North Stand was according to Paul Lakin was Feb 2009, I think.
I must have misheard. I thought there was a risk it wouldn't be ready for the world cup, meaning the stand wouldn't be open for business until 2014. If it was [unever[/u going to be ready, why ask the RFL for bigger games in the second half of the season?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The original finish date for the North Stand was according to Paul Lakin was Feb 2009, I think.
I must have misheard. I thought there was a risk it wouldn't be ready for the world cup, meaning the stand wouldn't be open for business until 2014. If it was [unever[/u going to be ready, why ask the RFL for bigger games in the second half of the season?'"
They didn't allow for bad weather in their plan (which seems a bit mad seeing as Hull always has bad weather (which is why i Live in Pompey now))
They asked and didn't receive anyway.
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| Quote ="Guybrush"They didn't allow for bad weather in their plan (which seems a bit mad seeing as Hull always has bad weather (which is why i Live in Pompey now))
They asked and didn't receive anyway.'"
ah tropical portsmouth
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"ah tropical portsmouth
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We've been sweltering down here the last few weeks! It's been at least 2°
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The only odd thing is how a week's bad weather [icould[/i push it back to 2014. Slippage of that extent, from July 2013 to Feb 2014 can't be down to a bit of snow. Could it be that the council are deferring some of the spend to next year's capital budget?'"
Who told you Feb 2014? I thought you were the oracle of all things KR?
It's scheduled to open for the last 2 home games of the season.
A practice run to get all the hospitality right.
We might as well pack the FC fans in the south stand.
We could charge them £25 or £19 for any Rovers fans that may want to pay for the same view.
Just like at the KC.
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"Who told you Feb 2014? I thought you were the oracle of all things KR?
It's scheduled to open for the last 2 home games of the season.
A practice run to get all the hospitality right.
We might as well pack the FC fans in the south stand.
We could charge them £25 or £19 for any Rovers fans that may want to pay for the same view.
Just like at the KC.
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I wasn't intending to comment, but just to clarify which I can do as I am on the project management board.
The target date after we received confirmation of the ERDF was 29th July, and at the last project board meeting that was still the date, that however is now not the case for the 'Official opening' as there will be delays in the fitout of the hospitality suits and the catering facilities in the west section of currently between 2/3 weeks, this is to ensure that it is done to the highest standard and not a rush job.
The building works are set to be completed on time and the plan is to have the stand, less the corporate facilities open for the Hull game.
The full facilities will be in use for the world cup.
All the nonsense spouted about deferals for next years capital budget is exactly that 'nonsense'
anyone that knows anything about local Government finance knows that it's the revenue that is budgeted anually, once we have receive the level of revenue settlement grant from Central Government (this year 21st Dec 2012) for 2013/14.
the capital fund is a carry over from year to year, and when it's gone, it's gone, we do an annual revue of capital (there is no financial year end date) and departments can put in wish lists, which cabinet grade on a needs basis ie-bridge repairs and road repairs even stadia, and they move up the list if we generate more capital, usually by sale of assets or prudential borrowing which [u can't[/u be used to prop up revenue budgets ie social services or wages or even waste management.
Hope this clears things up, any questions just PM me.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"I wasn't intending to comment, but just to clarify which I can do as I am on the project management board.
The target date after we received confirmation of the ERDF was 29th July, and at the last project board meeting that was still the date, that however is now not the case for the 'Official opening' as there will be delays in the fitout of the hospitality suits and the catering facilities in the west section of currently between 2/3 weeks, this is to ensure that it is done to the highest standard and not a rush job.
The building works are set to be completed on time and the plan is to have the stand, less the corporate facilities open for the Hull game.
The full facilities will be in use for the world cup.
All the nonsense spouted about deferals for next years capital budget is exactly that 'nonsense'
anyone that knows anything about local Government finance knows that it's the revenue that is budgeted anually, once we have receive the level of revenue settlement grant from Central Government (this year 21st Dec 2012) for 2013/14.
the capital fund is a carry over from year to year, and when it's gone, it's gone, we do an annual revue of capital (there is no financial year end date) and departments can put in wish lists, which cabinet grade on a needs basis ie-bridge repairs and road repairs even stadia, and they move up the list if we generate more capital, usually by sale of assets or prudential borrowing which [ucan't[/u be used to prop up revenue budgets ie social services or wages or even waste management.
Hope this clears things up, any questions just PM me.'"
That's me told. You did say, I think, that this project wouldn't cost the Hull taxpayer a penny. Since you've explained the cost side fully, could you also detail the repayment piece? The ERDF application showed the stand element of the build was £2m and not eligible for funding ERDF support, so presumably this is what Rovers will be repaying the council to make it cost neutral for the taxpayer? Thanks.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The original finish date for the North Stand was according to Paul Lakin was Feb 2009, I think.
I must have misheard. I thought there was a risk it wouldn't be ready for the world cup, meaning the stand wouldn't be open for business until 2014. If it was [unever[/u going to be ready, why ask the RFL for bigger games in the second half of the season?'"
I accept you have a bit of previous when it comes to dredging up the past to suit your adgenda, but PAUL LAKIN!!! for christsake when did Bill Land expect it to be open when he was chairman?
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"If you dont allow away fans to use the north stand it would be pointless building it in the first place because you couldnt fill your ground as it is ? (that wasnt a sly dig btw as I know we dont fill the kc either)'"
New stand could well equal new fans, especially if an area was used as a family stand.
You guys should know that just because you have a shiny new ground with cover from the elements that it does not attract away fans to Hull.
I would like to see the East stand extension(once built) to house away fans and allow the North stand to be mainly home fans, still a section of the stand could be used for away fans who want seats.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"I wasn't intending to comment, but just to clarify which I can do as I am on the project management board.
The target date after we received confirmation of the ERDF was 29th July, and at the last project board meeting that was still the date, that however is now not the case for the 'Official opening' as there will be delays in the fitout of the hospitality suits and the catering facilities in the west section of currently between 2/3 weeks, this is to ensure that it is done to the highest standard and not a rush job.
The building works are set to be completed on time and the plan is to have the stand, less the corporate facilities open for the Hull game.
The full facilities will be in use for the world cup.
All the nonsense spouted about deferals for next years capital budget is exactly that 'nonsense'
anyone that knows anything about local Government finance knows that it's the revenue that is budgeted anually, once we have receive the level of revenue settlement grant from Central Government (this year 21st Dec 2012) for 2013/14.
the capital fund is a carry over from year to year, and when it's gone, it's gone, we do an annual revue of capital (there is no financial year end date) and departments can put in wish lists, which cabinet grade on a needs basis ie-bridge repairs and road repairs even stadia, and they move up the list if we generate more capital, usually by sale of assets or prudential borrowing which [ucan't[/u be used to prop up revenue budgets ie social services or wages or even waste management.
Hope this clears things up, any questions just PM me.'"
Spoilsport.
Cold hard facts have no place on RLFans, this is the home of idle speculation. Please try to remember this when posting in future.
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| Quote ="Guybrush"They didn't allow for bad weather in their plan (which seems a bit mad seeing as Hull always has bad weather (which is why i Live in Pompey now))
They asked and didn't receive anyway.'"
I guybrush i have lived here in gosport for 5 yrs and its snowed every year since i came here and Portsmouth gets the same because my daughter lives their ,back to the build it will be built when its finished i will go to have a look
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| Quote ="phil webbo"I wasn't intending to comment, but just to clarify which I can do as I am on the project management board.
The target date after we received confirmation of the ERDF was 29th July, and at the last project board meeting that was still the date, that however is now not the case for the 'Official opening' as there will be delays in the fitout of the hospitality suits and the catering facilities in the west section of currently between 2/3 weeks, this is to ensure that it is done to the highest standard and not a rush job.
The building works are set to be completed on time and the plan is to have the stand, less the corporate facilities open for the Hull game.
The full facilities will be in use for the world cup.
All the nonsense spouted about deferals for next years capital budget is exactly that 'nonsense'
anyone that knows anything about local Government finance knows that it's the revenue that is budgeted anually, once we have receive the level of revenue settlement grant from Central Government (this year 21st Dec 2012) for 2013/14.
the capital fund is a carry over from year to year, and when it's gone, it's gone, we do an annual revue of capital (there is no financial year end date) and departments can put in wish lists, which cabinet grade on a needs basis ie-bridge repairs and road repairs even stadia, and they move up the list if we generate more capital, usually by sale of assets or prudential borrowing which [ucan't[/u be used to prop up revenue budgets ie social services or wages or even waste management.
Hope this clears things up, any questions just PM me.'"
Game. Set. Match.
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"I guybrush i have lived here in gosport for 5 yrs and its snowed every year since i came here and Portsmouth gets the same because my daughter lives their ,back to the build it will be built when its finished i will go to have a look'"
Climate change innit. Was mediterranean before you moved down here.
Looking forward to seeing the new stand open. Might come up for one of the World Cup games
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| the stand will be ready for the world cup and not before i was told today and tony larvin has got the funds aswell which i didnt believe but it is going to happen apparantly
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| Quote ="phil webbo"I wasn't intending to comment, but just to clarify which I can do as I am on the project management board.
The target date after we received confirmation of the ERDF was 29th July, and at the last project board meeting that was still the date, that however is now not the case for the 'Official opening' as there will be delays in the fitout of the hospitality suits and the catering facilities in the west section of currently between 2/3 weeks, this is to ensure that it is done to the highest standard and not a rush job.
The building works are set to be completed on time and the plan is to have the stand, less the corporate facilities open for the Hull game.
The full facilities will be in use for the world cup.
All the nonsense spouted about deferals for next years capital budget is exactly that 'nonsense'
anyone that knows anything about local Government finance knows that it's the revenue that is budgeted anually, once we have receive the level of revenue settlement grant from Central Government (this year 21st Dec 2012) for 2013/14.
the capital fund is a carry over from year to year, and when it's gone, it's gone, we do an annual revue of capital (there is no financial year end date) and departments can put in wish lists, which cabinet grade on a needs basis ie-bridge repairs and road repairs even stadia, and they move up the list if we generate more capital, usually by sale of assets or prudential borrowing which [ucan't[/u be used to prop up revenue budgets ie social services or wages or even waste management.
Hope this clears things up, any questions just PM me.'"
Can you clear up what an annual REVUE is ?? A man of your intelligence could shed light on a 'shiny new word'
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