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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Eh? By my reckoning only 3 of Leigh's starting 13 on Saturday ( and likely to be pretty much the same for this week) were aged over 30.
Micky Higham & Harrison Hanson for definite and I think Cory Paterson turned 30 the other week.
How many of Rovers starting line up last week were over 30
Maurice Blair, Lunt, Scruton, Kavanagh , and Carney may be?'"
Patterson, Higham, Hansen, Brown, Vea, Maria, Tickle and Stewart were all 30 or over
Aside from that I'll take your point
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| Quote ="barham red"Patterson, Higham, Hansen, Brown, Vea, Maria, Tickle and Stewart were all 30 or over
Aside from that I'll take your point'"
Kavanagh not yet 30 either. He's 29.
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| Who do you guys think we will play at half back? To me Atkin on the bench is a wasted spot. He either starts or not in the 17 for me. However only way I see him playing is if Sheens drops Ellis which would be a big call at this stage.
Does Quinlan come back in at FB if fit?
Some interesting decisions to be made at 1, 6 and 7.
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| Quote ="StanTheMan6"Who do you guys think we will play at half back? To me Atkin on the bench is a wasted spot. He either starts or not in the 17 for me. However only way I see him playing is if Sheens drops Ellis which would be a big call at this stage.
Does Quinlan come back in at FB if fit?
Some interesting decisions to be made at 1, 6 and 7.'"
Quinlan not done enough for me to earn a straight recall, Moss was good at FB on Sunday and Shaw is a better winger than Moss. The only real Option we have is Salter to 2nd row and Blair in the halfs but cant see it.
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| Quote ="barham red"Patterson, Higham, Hansen, Brown, Vea, Maria, Tickle and Stewart were all 30 or over
Aside from that I'll take your point'"
My apologies, Vea and Maria have just turned 30 this season as well. Mitch Brown is still in his 20's - Tickle & Stewart were not in the starting 13 and therefore not included in my point for obvious reasons.
Okay I will re word by saying only Micky Higham and Harrison Hanson out of Leigh's starting thirteen fall into the 31+ age bracket, everyone else is aged 17-30
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| Quote ="barham red"Quinlan not done enough for me to earn a straight recall, Moss was good at FB on Sunday and Shaw is a better winger than Moss. The only real Option we have is Salter to 2nd row and Blair in the halfs but cant see it.'"
Quinlan has played a few games at 6 in the NRL and could be an option but hasn't had any time there and may be targeted by Leigh in defense.
I'm thinking / hoping Greenwood is back which would free up Blair to play at 6.
Then again I imagine we didn't pay a fee for Atkin to sit in the stands.
Nice to have options but none of the stand out as an easy or best choice. Looking forward to the game!
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| Greenwood has been gash all year. And will be no where near match fit. Not an option for me.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"My apologies, Vea and Maria have just turned 30 this season as well. Mitch Brown is still in his 20's - Tickle & Stewart were not in the starting 13 and therefore not included in my point for obvious reasons.
Okay I will re word by saying only Micky Higham and Harrison Hanson out of Leigh's starting thirteen fall into the 31+ age bracket, everyone else is aged 17-30
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Jesus, Mitch Brown has had a hard paper round then..
Talking of old timers, is Hock likely to play this week?
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| Quote ="barham red"Jesus, Mitch Brown has had a hard paper round then..
Talking of old timers, is Hock likely to play this week?'"
Not likely to play this season.
Age is just a number. Would feel much more comfortable with 33 year old Gareth Hock playing than 26 year old James Green!
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| Quote ="barham red"Jesus, Mitch Brown has had a hard paper round then..
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Quote ="barham red"Talking of old timers, is Hock likely to play this week?'"
No he has been ruled out for the season and with Dane Weston having recently retired and the idiot Jamie Acton being suspected, it has left us a little short of some grunt in the front row IMO.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Not likely to play this season.
Age is just a number. Would feel much more comfortable with 33 year old Gareth Hock playing than 26 year old James Green!'"
Forgot about Green, whats happened to him? If he plays I'll give it 20 minutes til he smacks one of his ex team mates and gets sent off.
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| If we lose Masoe for this match, what are the options..agree Greenwood has not been anywhere near last seasons level, Clarkson(meh) been ok so far but no world beater, Mitch Clark usually gives impact and go forward and would be my choice but doesn't seem to be Sheens. Is he fit to play?
Re. the half back, I would persevere with Atkin, he is a half back and we must have some creativity. We are low on options and have got to try something...horses for courses and all that.
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| I'd imagine Clark would be a direct replacement for Masoe if his shoulder is shagged. The perpetrator got 1 match for that chicken wing, which will no doubt benefit Widnes.
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| Not that it matters but aren't we unbeaten at LSV
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| Quote ="barham red"Forgot about Green, whats happened to him? If he plays I'll give it 20 minutes til he smacks one of his ex team mates and gets sent off.'"
There are some at Leigh, who wish James Green would show enough fire to smack someone!
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| Quote ="barham red"Forgot about Green, whats happened to him? If he plays I'll give it 20 minutes til he smacks one of his ex team mates and gets sent off.'"
If he plays 20 minutes, he wont have enough breath in his body to smack anybody. May as well have McNally at prop forward!
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| Quote ="StanTheMan6"Who do you guys think we will play at half back? To me Atkin on the bench is a wasted spot. He either starts or not in the 17 for me. However only way I see him playing is if Sheens drops Ellis which would be a big call at this stage.
Does Quinlan come back in at FB if fit?
Some interesting decisions to be made at 1, 6 and 7.'"
If we want to have a chance of beating Leigh then we have to drop Ellis in my opinion. I would love for him to prove me wrong but on current form I simply don't think he's good enough, pure and simple, he offers little with ball in hand and his overall kicking game has been nowhere near what it should be if he is going to trouble top sides.
Atkin looks a good prospect, it's a real pity he wasn't brought to the club much earlier and given more game time to get used to playing with the first team, the same could possibly be said for Masoe though I'm not sure what his commitments were over in Aus.
it might be a gamble playing Atkins against Leigh but in my opinion he offers more in attack than Ellis.
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| Quinlan is our best back and apart from Lunt the only one who can unlock a good defence. He has to play if fit. Carney may change that and become our best back but he needs to sort his defence out or Mortimer may make his life difficult.
We have a decent chance of a win but have to defend much better than this week.
Keep it tight in the first 30 and Leigh may beat themselves.
Will we ever have Minns Heffernan and Quinlan fit for the same game...
Who plays at half I have no idea..Marsh was ok Sunday. Defended well took a good try.
We will miss Abdul in this one but as others have said this is a bonus win if we get it. Widnes at home and our fellow championship teams are the pressure games.
After another Solomon type display on the other thread I nominate the goose as board moderator.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"If you do that you will be in with a shout for the points.
Leigh's 6 and 7 may not be Thurston and Cronk but they are classy SL half backs and are currently going great guns for Leigh. Any team that has both half backs absolutely firing as they do will always take some stopping. Mortimer has been a revelation since coming in a few weeks ago, him and Drinkwater are controlling everything behind the forwards, with Langi adding some strike on the edges.
I suppose Leigh will be equally wanting to nullify Lunt in the same respect , and let their 6 and 7 control the match.
It is a fascinating match in store.'"
Disagree with you on the halfbacks, we've had some of SLs finest over the years but not enough quality around them, especially in the forwards. Having good halfbacks is all well and good, gotta have good players around them though.
Mortimer is a fine looking player from what I've seen, could be an excellent signing for the future providing you're still on SL but I don't rate drinkwater anywhere near the same.
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| Quinlan has a better skillset at FB than Moss, but Moss is matchfit and playing well. A tough call for Sheens.
Ellis has been OK all season and ups his game when he can be bothered. The only problem is that he is ONLY OK, and his concentration. Marsh isn't good enough for SL and either Atkin isn't either or just too inexperienced. I wouldn't put Addy there either. ZDC isn't a great HB but might be worth a short stint.
I would put Blair next to Ellis to steady the ship and improve the HB kicking options, with ZDC or Atkin as replacements if a change of pace is needed, more likely ZDC as that is a dual interchange for Lunt and gives some interesting options. However, Sheens has only used Blair at HB once so I can't see it happening.
Masoe must play.
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| If Masoe plays, then Sheens claims of his shoulder dislocating and popping back in is bull.
It takes at least 2 weeks for the tendons to settle and the swelling to go down.
I want the best HKR team at the LSV. We have plenty out, so failing to beat us should have no excuses.
I just hope you replace Catalans. Watch the RFL change some goalposts then!
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| I would expect Leigh to have a good look at our left edge defence after Sundays efforts but i also feel their weak spot is Fleming and Dawson particularly Fleming looks very slight and neither are real speedsters.Neither are very tall either so I'd keep going at them and target Higham and their half's with plenty of big lads smashing into them.Sounds simple but will be a hell of a result if we pull it off.Will be interesting how the bookies price the game and what start we get on coupon.
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| Quote ="craig hkr"I would expect Leigh to have a good look at our left edge defence after Sundays efforts but i also feel their weak spot is Fleming and Dawson particularly Fleming looks very slight and neither are real speedsters.Neither are very tall either so I'd keep going at them and target Higham and their half's with plenty of big lads smashing into them.Sounds simple but will be a hell of a result if we pull it off.Will be interesting how the bookies price the game and what start we get on coupon.'"
We're used to having players target our ' halfs ' it's called " using your head "
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| Quote ="craig hkr"I would expect Leigh to have a good look at our left edge defence after Sundays efforts but i also feel their weak spot is Fleming and Dawson particularly Fleming looks very slight and neither are real speedsters.Neither are very tall either so I'd keep going at them and target Higham and their half's with plenty of big lads smashing into them.Sounds simple but will be a hell of a result if we pull it off.Will be interesting how the bookies price the game and what start we get on coupon.'"
Leigh always tend to exploit the strongest edge.That in return tends to make the opposition's attack weaker. Method in madness.
Either way this game will show just where you're at, intensity wise. Not sure what Mr Sheens has put in place to create those intensity levels this season,but we'll find out on Saturday.
Looking forward to it..Safe Journey.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"We're used to having players target our ' halfs ' =#FF0000it's called " using your head "'"
Greg Bird on Ben Reynolds, immediately springs to mind there Steve!
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