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| should have gone to specsavers lol
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| Quote ="hull2524"terrible decision , but soooooooo sweet for us'"
There is a certain guilty pleasure to these things. I'll soon put this in my mind's recycle bin, but Disco Dave's try and the events leading up to it last year will live long in the memory. Somebody just reminded me of Tommy Lee's 'knock on' from Paul Cooke's kick-off at Cardiff in 2008 - another Ganson special. I enjoyed those, so I can't begrudge you this.
Refs decide a lot of close games, always have, always will. Yesterday was indefensibly poor, but he's not tried to defend it and has apologised. People might say that isn't enough, but it is all he can do.
Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Karma.
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So many believe in it, yet nobody seems to fear it.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"There is a certain guilty pleasure to these things. I'll soon put this in my mind's recycle bin, but Disco Dave's try and the events leading up to it last year will live long in the memory. Somebody just reminded me of Tommy Lee's 'knock on' from Paul Cooke's kick-off at Cardiff in 2008 - another Ganson special. I enjoyed those, so I can't begrudge you this.
Refs decide a lot of close games, always have, always will. Yesterday was indefensibly poor, but he's not tried to defend it and has apologised. People might say that isn't enough, but it is all he can do.
So many believe in it, yet nobody seems to fear it.
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Pretty sure it was Berrigan and not Lee that incident mate
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Pretty sure it was Berrigan and not Lee that incident mate'"
It was indeed. Happened right in front of us. To say I wasn't best pleased would be an understatement.
Ganson has been diabolically poor for pretty much his entire career. Nice to know that he's finally confirmed it on the largest possible stage.
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| Its the worst decision ive ever seen.
I can take losing , but i cant take being cheated.
We sports fans are a passionate bunch , and i fear its only a matter of time before passion gets the better of somebody , and they have more than a quiet word with Ganson.
I only hope its not at Craven Park.
Having said that , Ganson is arrogant and deluded enough to turn up at our next home game with a smirk on his face.
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| Quote ="cab man"THE MOTHER OF ALL CHEATS, LETS JUST NOT BOTHER HAVING RULES AT ALL, INFACT LETS PLAY AMERICAN FOOTBALL. THIS GAME IS TURNING INTO THE BIGGEST LAUGHING STOCK ON THE PLANET THEY ARE EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT IN NORTH KOREA. GANSON MUST NEVER OFFICIATE A GAME AGAIN, ALL I CAN THINK IS HE PRESSED THE TRY BUTTON WHEN MEANING TO PRESS THE NO TRY BUTTON, HE NEEDS TO GO TO SPEC SAVERS. DOES HE NOT HAVE HELPERS TO TELL HIM WHAT BUTTON TO PRESS.'"
You were owed that from last year , get over it .
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Pretty sure it was Berrigan and not Lee that incident mate'"
Ah, creeping senility.
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| Silverwood has just confirmed via Twitter to PhilB that the penalty would not have been on the half way line, but 10m from where Green touched the ball.
Another thing Sandy got wrong.
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| Quote ="Chester Wednesday"Its the worst decision ive ever seen.
I can take losing , but i cant take being cheated.
We sports fans are a passionate bunch , and i fear its only a matter of time before passion gets the better of somebody , and they have more than a quiet word with Ganson.
I only hope its not at Craven Park.
Having said that , Ganson is arrogant and deluded enough to turn up at our next home game with a smirk on his face.'"
If Billy Slater Eden had of done his job properly there would have been no descision to make.
How many games has he cost you this season?
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"You were owed that from last year , get over it .'"
Yeah, you've not really got cab man's MO, have you?
Quote ="Chester Wednesday"Its the worst decision ive ever seen.
I can take losing , but i cant take being cheated.
We sports fans are a passionate bunch , and i fear its only a matter of time before passion gets the better of somebody , and they have more than a quiet word with Ganson.
I only hope its not at Craven Park.
Having said that , Ganson is arrogant and deluded enough to turn up at our next home game with a smirk on his face.'"
Passionate yes. But that would be reprehensible and psychopathic. If we want a sport, we need to respect officials - even if they make very bad decisions that go against us.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"If Billy Slater Eden had of done his job properly there would have been no descision to make.
How many games has he cost you this season?'"
Hey HFCgirl, nobody at rovers calls eden 'billy slater'. It was nathan brown who made the analogy.
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| Ah well, that's sport innit.
A few points, it wasn't cheating on Gansons part, it was a mistake, a bad one, but a mistake.
Eden was horribly out of position.
The Yeaman try is correctly given for me, you have to have a reason not to give a try, that's how it works. It was a soft try for us to concede, crash ball from five yards out, Yeaman was always going to go for it, did well to get his arms free.
We had enough territory and possession to win that game but after Brown's try we put the cue in the rack and looked to just hold on, Hull's desperation plays stuck and fair play they never gave up. Good team spirit that, something which Gentle has got drilled into his group.
To be fair the Hull fans have been pretty reasonable about it.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan":im9zavrhSilverwood has just confirmed via Twitter to PhilB that the penalty would not have been on the half way line, but 10m from where Green touched the ball.
Another thing Sandy got wrong.'"
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Ah well, that's sport innit.
A few points, it wasn't cheating on Gansons part, it was a mistake, a bad one, but a mistake.
Eden was horribly out of position.
The Yeaman try is correctly given for me, you have to have a reason not to give a try, that's how it works. It was a soft try for us to concede, crash ball from five yards out, Yeaman was always going to go for it, did well to get his arms free.
We had enough territory and possession to win that game but after Brown's try we put the cue in the rack and looked to just hold on, Hull's desperation plays stuck and fair play they never gave up. Good team spirit that, something which Gentle has got drilled into his group.
To be fair the Hull fans have been pretty reasonable about it.'"
I going to stick up for Eden, I thought he was very good for 76 minutes scored a good try, set one and the rest of his play was excellent, I still think he will make a very good SL FB in time.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"If Billy Slater Eden had of done his job properly there would have been no descision to make.
How many games has he cost you this season?'"
Green was offside , bouncing ball or not.
Still a penalty.
Learn the rules , son.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"[obvious trapWould you say that Ganson is a 'cheat', after that decision yesterday?.[\obvious trap
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Haha, I get your point. But I thought all along that was the rule.
I also thought that once the ball bounced everyone was onside (that wasn't within 10m of the defender).
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Ah well, that's sport innit.
A few points, it wasn't cheating on Gansons part, it was a mistake, a bad one, but a mistake.
Eden was horribly out of position.
The Yeaman try is correctly given for me, you have to have a reason not to give a try, that's how it works. It was a soft try for us to concede, crash ball from five yards out, Yeaman was always going to go for it, did well to get his arms free.
We had enough territory and possession to win that game but after Brown's try we put the cue in the rack and looked to just hold on, Hull's desperation plays stuck and fair play they never gave up. Good team spirit that, something which Gentle has got drilled into his group.
To be fair the Hull fans have been pretty reasonable about it.'"
Well, you're no fun. Fancy posting sensible stuff, spoilt it for all of us now.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"[obvious trapWould you say that Ganson is a 'cheat', after that decision yesterday?.[\obvious trap
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Having viewed the incident numerous times I'm beginning to think he was drunk. Or that the 'tracking the wrong player' excuse is covering up a deeper misunderstanding of the laws.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"
I also thought that once the ball bounced everyone was onside (that wasn't within 10m of the defender).'"
Green could have only been onside if the kicker had run in front of him to play him onside or if Eden would have touched the ball. Where you conjured up this 10 metre rule is as baffling as Ganson's decision
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| Quote ="Easty"Green could have only been onside if the kicker had run in front of him to play him onside or if Eden would have touched the ball. Where you conjured up this 10 metre rule is as baffling as Ganson's decision
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Well done on completely missing the point.
I was pointing out that I was looking for reasons as to why he gave it.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Well done on completely missing the point.
I was pointing out that I was looking for reasons as to why he gave it.'"
None of the above happened though so your missing the point. Still the result is as it is a result. you got the two points further discussion is irrelevant It aint changing anything.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Having viewed the incident numerous times I'm beginning to think he was drunk. Or that the 'tracking the wrong player' excuse is covering up a deeper misunderstanding of the laws.'"
The thing about tracking the wrong player is that having tracked him, you'd notice your mistake and go back and track the right player, surely?
As far as excusing ignorance with stupidity, I'm not sure it saves many blushes.
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| I still don't understand why Thaler didn't tell his boss to re-look at the decision before confirming it was a try. This surely has to be the way forward before we get more unbelievable decisions like this. Everyone knew it wasn't a try but it was allowed to stand. It was nothing to do with technology it was plainly wrong but could easily have been prevented from standing.
If that decision had been made at the KC or Craven Park with a bigger partisan crowd it could have caused trouble.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"icon_lol.gif
The thing about tracking the wrong player is that having tracked him, you'd notice your mistake and go back and track the right player, surely?
As far as excusing ignorance with stupidity, I'm not sure it saves many blushes.
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Have just watched the incident again and as Danny kicks the ball there is a maximum of 3 players offside. Green & Lynch stood together to his left and one another to his right (possibly Pitts who is virtually in line with Danny). As the play moves on after the kick Lynch & Pitts make little attempt to move forward and are behind Danny all the way, which only leaves Green to track.
Having reviewed the first couple of seconds, the only question remaining was to track Green's position and did Eden touch the ball. The answer to both these questions was fairly easy to deduce. It's not as if he had a multitude of options to explore. Only Ganson knows his reasoning behind this and his official excuse simply doesn't wash in the above scenario.
I find it as unfathomable as everyone else (on both sides), but you may not be too surprised to learn that I didn't lose too much in the way of sleep last night .
See you all in August for part 3.
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| Quote ="Easty"None of the above happened though so your missing the point. Still the result is as it is a result. you got the two points further discussion is irrelevant It aint changing anything.'"
You need to tell that to your chairman.
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