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| Quote ="Dudley"Why get rid then?'"
Not good enough
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Not good enough'"
And so youi replaced them with Agar Feck me you're on form tonight!!!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Not good enough'"
They were obviously better than anything you've had since those days because you have not come close to reaching those heights again, in other words, you're saying that you've gone backwards in regards the quality of coaches you've had since the aforementioned personel.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"They were obviously better than anything you've had since those days because you have not come close to reaching those heights again, in other words, you're saying that you've gone backwards in regards the quality of coaches you've had since the aforementioned personel.'"
Boom!!!
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| Quote ="Seventies red"They were obviously better than anything you've had since those days because you have not come close to reaching those heights again, in other words, you're saying that you've gone backwards in regards the quality of coaches you've had since the aforementioned personel.'"
No, the playing roster has never been as good. gentle seems like he has the makings of a good coach but still too early to tell, however I doubt even wayne bennett would win anything with our current squad
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No, the playing roster has never been as good. gentle seems like he has the makings of a good coach but still too early to tell, however I doubt even wayne bennett would win anything with our current squad'"
He would if he could wangle getting the world beaters Hall, Eden and Caro.
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| Quote ="cab man"Its last chance saloon for the sandman sandercock. The mighty Warrington await. Everybody will turn up expecting the mother of all maulings. Warrington have no weaknesses. We wont get thirty points against these we wont get twenty against these infact we will struggle to get a try against these. Our defence will do well to hold them to fourty. This team under the sandman lacks everything that teams under Justin had and especially passion it was passion personified with ben cockayne, clint newton, shaun briscoe, stanley gene, even makali didnt seem to drop the ball as much. Its looking bad really bad. Only one hope a man waits in the wings he must take the stage and show this team how its done.
BRING ON BURNS!!!
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Change of attitude since the derby friendly then, eh?
Quote ="cab man"Craig Sandercock take a bow. He really is galvanising this team into something special we are starting to see these youngsters coming through now which means the team is developing strength in depth. We blew thunder off the park and our youngsters gave these so called super stars a game in the second half. It all appears to be coming together now for the sandman. I forecast us to be in the mix come end of season, even with welham out i feel this year replacements are in abundance. Also great to see the General back to his best blowing all away on these forums.'"
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| I'll just leave his here also, as it's the one thing I totally agree with after that Rovers performance
Quote ="Mrpaterson12"Well after attending the forum last night the most pleasing thing i noticed was how much more relaxed our head coach was,he was cracking jokes and looked a lot more comfortable than he did all of his first year.
I have been one of his worst critics regarding his morose persona and that he needed to lighten up a lot. I dont doubt his rugby knowledge one bit and he seems to be doing a great job improving the young lads,lets have a great start and then sign Craig up for another couple of years.'"
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| HDMsport @HDMsport
In today's Mail : @CharliePMullan on why #HullKR coach Craig Sandercock appears to have a month to save his job at MS3 Craven Park
Sun 3rd Mar Hull Kingston Rovers vs.Warrington Wolves
Sat 9th Mar London Broncos vs.Hull Kingston Rovers (SKY)
Sun 17th Mar Bradford Bulls vs.Hull Kingston Rovers
Sun 24th Mar Hull Kingston Rovers vs.Castleford Tigers (SKY)
Fri 29th Mar Hull FC vs.Hull Kingston Rovers (SKY)
Not looking good for Him is it.
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| Quote ="djlard"HDMsport @HDMsport
In today's Mail : @CharliePMullan on why #HullKR coach Craig Sandercock appears to have a month to save his job at MS3 Craven Park
Sun 3rd Mar Hull Kingston Rovers vs.Warrington Wolves
Sat 9th Mar London Broncos vs.Hull Kingston Rovers (SKY)
Sun 17th Mar Bradford Bulls vs.Hull Kingston Rovers
Sun 24th Mar Hull Kingston Rovers vs.Castleford Tigers (SKY)
Fri 29th Mar Hull FC vs.Hull Kingston Rovers (SKY)
Not looking good for Him is it.
Three of the games on Sky as well.'"
He will turn it round lets have a bit of faith
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| Everyone is entitled to change their mind.
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| Quote ="BraddersFC"Change of attitude since the derby friendly then, eh?
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It's not a real person...
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| Quote ="Mrpaterson12"Everyone is entitled to change their mind.'"
They are, I really don't get why some people jump on people because they change their mind over something. You form an opinion and then as time, moves on you realise that you now think something different.
This isn't Parliament and RLFans.com isn't Hansard.
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| Looks like our erstwhile local "journo" has been reading this thread:
Quote ="yesterday, SirStan"Now really is the time. I have kept my powder dry on Mr Sandercock for several months now, but dry powder goes up with a big bang. Lets look at the facts:
2 wins in the last 14 games (both against a very poor Widnes side)
2 wins since June 2012!
In those 14 games we concede an average of 31 points.'"
[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Hull-KR-s-Sandercock-faces-make-break-March/story-18256186-detail/story.html#axzz2LzenSnHE[/url
Quote ="plagiaristic git"[uAnd with just two wins in his last 13 games,[/u Sandercock is in danger of entering that meeting with little supporting evidence to be granted more time at the helm.
The coach's current two-year deal runs out at the end of the season.
At the start of the campaign the question appeared to be whether he would get another.
Today, following a dreadful start to his second year in charge, whether he'll see out his original deal now looks to be the matter of debate.
Sunday's staggering collapse at Salford brought a new level of criticism from the terraces.
The patience of Rovers' fans is running thinner with every new defeat and, [uwith only two wins in the last eight months – both against Widnes[/u, that is not a surprise.
[uThey are conceding an average of 31 points a game [/uand, when you have to score at least six tries and five conversions to have a chance of winning, something drastic needs changing.'"
I demand recognition
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| Stop writing sensible posts, stick to utter shatpank like me and nobody will want to steal it.
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| Quote ="gingerspice"He will turn it round lets have a bit of faith'"
Last season ginge i for one said keep him he will come good, now i say he has had enough time and if their is some one else out their that can do us a good job lets get him now, i would not let him stay the mth we will be bottom of the league if we do
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Stop writing sensible posts, stick to utter shatpank like me and nobody will want to steal it.'"
Good point, well made.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Stop writing sensible posts, stick to utter shatpank like me and nobody will want to steal it.'"
105 for 0 now sandra
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"They are, I really don't get why some people jump on people because they change their mind over something. You form an opinion and then as time, moves on you realise that you now think something different.
This isn't Parliament and RLFans.com isn't Hansard.'"
So true. If you hang about long enough you soon realise who is full of poop, but as long as it is well intentioned and good natured it shouldn't matter. Who comes on here to be held to account? I thought Mike Ratu was a canny signing, Willie Mason was exactly what we needed to take us to the next level and Sandercock precisely the sort of coach needed see the club evolve. Amongst other dubious calls.
On Sandercock, I do feel that the club and fans have been a little guilty of giving mixed signals. The 'give the kids a run, these games don't matter' attitude at the tail end of last year was clearly rubbish, if we're now saying '2 from 13' or whatever it is. It didn't make that much material difference given the injuries we had, but if we do end up with a new coach, or if Sandercock turns it around, then I hope he realises that his primary objective is winning games, despite what people might say.
Developing the kids is the primary objective of the U-19 and academy coaches, providing the head coach with the tools he needs.
All that said, it his responsibilty to get the balance right and he hasn't so far. We've got a good amount of talent and potential in the squad, but a lot of it is very raw. I think he might just have asked too much of himself. It's like we overcompensated for previous years and suddenly bought into the patented SmokeyTA approach, thinking we had more stomach for losing than we do - or anybody does, in fact.
But I wasn't saying that 6 weeks ago. Changed my mind, innit?
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| From where I sit his biggest problem is not playing the young kids it's his inability to correct your failings from last season and the season before ect ect
2013 - you are letting in 31 points a game.
2012 - 27 points a game - finished 10th
2011 - 25 points a game - 7th
2010 - 23 points a game - 7th
2009 - 19 points a game - 4th
I am sure he came out with "We need to work on our defence" when he joined and it's a case that he just as not addressed it.
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| Quote ="Punos"From where I sit his biggest problem is not playing the young kids it's his inability to correct your failings from last season and the season before ect ect
2013 - you are letting in 31 points a game.
2012 - 27 points a game - finished 10th
2011 - 25 points a game - 7th
2010 - 23 points a game - 7th
2009 - 19 points a game - 4th
I am sure he came out with "We need to work on our defence" when he joined and it's a case that he just as not addressed it.'"
That 2009 team had a lot of experience, proven players more or less in their prime, who'd had 2008 to gel. Defence is all about consistency and that, IMO, is what younger players tend to lack - they have the enthusiasm and energy, but you're going to get errors. You usually get away playing a couple if they're surrounded by experience, but if you're up at 5 or 6 greenhorn players, that is more errors and fewer old heads around to help them out. It probably isn't the only thing, but it is likely part of it.
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| So you have answered the reasons why your not doing so well then, a decsion to go with youth 5 or 6 you said.
Maybe Sandycock is doing the best he can with what he has, Hudge said they will not spend upto the maximum salary cap and it's recognised that the p[layers are young and going to make mistakes but who else can you put in instead. Your not going out to buy in the marklet.
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| Going back to our better seasons in 2008 / 2009 / 2010 I noticed how much our defence used to drop off when Mick Vella was spelled. It was really noticable to the point I expected us not to be able to defend our line with him off the pitch. It was never noticeable what he actually did but it certainly seemed to work. Unfortunately we haven;t replaced that element of the team, whether its experience, knowledge or organisation it may be a fact that one / two players could make all the difference.
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| There is a lot of inexperience in our backs at the moment, our defence in the last 20m is very dodgy, no-one seems able to direct it.
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