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| Quote ="gingerspice"Yes he is
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Not according to the RFL he isn't, he is not a Hull KR player he is a free agent. .....Bit of a feck up me thinks
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| Lucky injury as it turns out............
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Not according to the RFL he isn't, he is not a Hull KR player he is a free agent. .....Bit of a feck up me thinks
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Find me a quote that says Dobson is a "free agent".
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Not according to the RFL he isn't, he is not a Hull KR player he is a free agent. .....Bit of a feck up me thinks
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Rovers hold his registration okay scenario to Dobbo, Michael we have a problem with big willies passport Ur injured can we do this and this but ul still get paid and re enstated when Ur over Ur injury, sure rovers cos Ur the best club ever
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Find me a quote that says Dobson is a "free agent".'"
He is not registered to play for Hull KR, therefore he is a free agent.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Dobson is a "free agent".'"
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Find me a quote that says Dobson is a "free agent".'"
Quote (c) in the case of Professional Players with a current contract registered with a
Club:
(i) by mutual agreement by Club and Player to terminate the contract which has
been notified to the RFL which in the case of all players on a full time contract
must be in the form of a compromise agreement; or
(ii) in the case of a Negotiated Transfer, on the receipt by the RFL of the
documents set out in Operational Rule Section C1:2:4 above and C1:2:13
below; or
(iii) in the case of a Contract Expired Player where that Player signs for another
Club and the RFL receives the documents set out in Operational Rule C1:2:4
above and C1:2:13 below. When a player has been removed from a Club
Register he shall remain on the RFL Register as a Free Agent unless he
applies for de-registration as set out in C1:1:3 above.'"
A player whose contract is terminated is moved to the RFL's register as a Free Agent.
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Rovers hold his registration '"
No they don't, or he would still count on the quota.
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| Quote ="Kosh"A player whose contract is terminated is moved to the RFL's register as a Free Agent.'"
The club have not terminated his contract though, they have simply de-registered.
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| farcical. We are a laughing stock. Between Dobson and Mason, Dobson everytime. Hope he finds a decent club. If I were him i'd cast my net.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"The club have not terminated his contract though, they have simply de-registered.'"
By de-registering his contract becomes void!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"icon_frustrated.gif
By de-registering his contract becomes void!'"
For fecks sake its done the rounds already! somebody come forward and sign him then.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"icon_frustrated.gif
By de-registering his contract becomes void!'"
I stand corrected.
Why would they club be saying that no other clubs can sign him etc.?
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"I stand corrected.
Why would they club be saying that no other clubs can sign him etc.?'"
Because they're dicks and dont know what they are doing?
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"For fecks sake its done the rounds already! somebody come forward and sign him then.'"
I dare say a few approaches will be made .....However I am sure Dobbo has no intention of leaving KR and put his trust in Hudge on this one, question is who did Hudge put his trust in, and will it bite Hudge on his backside, watch this space
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Because they're dicks and dont know what they are doing?'"
or becuase he's given an undertaking not to go elsewhere?
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I dare say a few approaches will be made
.....However I am sure Dobbo has no intention of leaving KR and put his trust in Hudge on this one, question is who did Hudge put his trust in, and will it bite Hudge on his backside, watch this space
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Did you not see the eye bags on him at the mason launch? midnight oil and all that.
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"The club have not terminated his contract though, they have simply de-registered.'"
The rules state that a player can only be de-registered if his contract is terminated by mutual agreement. Don't worry though - the Hull fans' version of what could happen, while certainly possible, represent their hopes, rather than than what they think likely. Ask Mrs B what she thinks [uwill[/u happen and, in fairness, she'll probably give a reasonable answer. Not [ujust[/u a reasonable answer, most likely, but it'll be in there somewhere. Give her trolling any credence and you'll go nuts.
Andy Wilson's latest:
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/mar/10/willie-mason-hull-kr-debut[/url
=#FF0000General Zod - don't call people 'vermin'. Spoils the ambience. And that is saying something.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"or becuase he's given an undertaking not to go elsewhere?'"
Well if thats the case he must be on megabucks to be d about like this.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Well if thats the case he must be on megabucks to be d about like this.'"
You seem a bit disgruntled about this, blakeysrobin.
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| this threads giving me flashbacks to Cookegate! with everyone frantically checking the RFL laws and considering if a board of an SL club could be so spectacularly inept or not! interesting to see what happens!
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| Kosh's post is correct and Rovers should have compensated Dobson (which would count on the cap). He is technically not a Rugby League Player for HKR. He is not permitted to train or undertake any activities as a player for the club, as pr the operational rules.
You would think that the RFL have been sounded out about re-registration of a key player. If the board (made up of other clubs) decide they don't kie what KR have done, they could turn down the re-registration.
I wonder whether you will have to get Dobbo a new visa when you re-employ him - much in the same case of Obst to Hull or Hauraki from Crusaders to Leeds. technically he would be a new employee and subject to visa clearance.
A tangled web has been woven and could set a very dangerous precedent if not handled carefully by the authorities.
Of coourse Dobbo being released replicates the departure of Webster when he was injured and could unsettle Dobson, prompting a move - which is possible. You should also bear in mind that Dobsons wages and any payment in lieue of termination will count on your salary cap - as would any coaching salary or any role you employ him for. it was this scenario that caught FC out over the salary cap and Andy Last who after playing one game saw his whole salary count against the cap and not just the elements relating to his playing.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"You seem a bit disgruntled about this, blakeysrobin.'"
Too right I am. Wernt fussed about Mason from the start so this is taking the pi$$. Dobson is 10 times more important then Mason so just having the hint of losing him is bollox.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"The rules state that a player can only be de-registered if his contract is terminated by mutual agreement. Don't worry though - the Hull fans' version of what could happen, while certainly possible, represent their hopes, rather than than what they think likely. Ask Mrs B what she thinks [uwill[/u happen and, in fairness, she'll probably give a reasonable answer. Not [ujust[/u a reasonable answer, most likely, but it'll be in there somewhere. Give her trolling any credence and you'll go nuts.
Andy Wilson's latest:
[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/mar/10/willie-mason-hull-kr-debut[/url
=#FF0000General Zod - don't call people 'vermin'. Spoils the ambience. And that is saying something.'"
I believe Dobson to be a free agent as of today as the RFL have stated his contract has been terminated and the head of the RFL has reportedly said he's not a Hull KR player. I'm not stating it as a fact, but as a belief. However before you scoff, I posted this on this matter on Tuesday:
"Maybe a currently unavailable overseas player could have been deregistered until Clinton "sees sense", allowing both Clinton and Mason to play on Sunday."
What [uwill[/u happen? I'd actually say I've no idea. I could envisage either Mason getting his passport or Clinton being binned off. Anyone believing Rovers continual bending of the rules, forcing the RFL to issue statements to clarify things, is raising them up in the estimations of Red Hall is clearly not playing with a full deck.
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