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| Quote ="Mild Rover"It is flattering that you choose those clubs to compare us with. We have come along way!'"
its not particularly a complement, all teams have to be compared to Leeds and Saints as they are the best,
next year they will be compared to whichever were the best this year
Quote I know that 'just' reaching the play-offs would not count as 'doing something' for Leeds this year, but Rovers are in a different stage in their development.
Adding Berrigan to Rovers squad would of course improve it, but we needed improvement in more than one area, with 3 or 4 very good players rather than one World-class player.'"
the thing is, according to your fans your not spending the SC this season, + you could get rid of one of Fisher and Webster who whilst probably not big earners now, they will have been when in NL1 and so on a decent wage,
why not spend that on Berrigan?
also, whilst i understand your point re development of the team, at some stage you need an international class halfback and an international class hooker, you have neither of those, and they rarely come on the market,
before Berrigan and Tommy Lueluai when was the last move involving an SL club which included an internationally class half back?
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Told you that has he?'"
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"its not particularly a complement, all teams have to be compared to Leeds and Saints as they are the best,
next year they will be compared to whichever were the best this year
the thing is, according to your fans your not spending the SC this season, + you could get rid of one of Fisher and Webster who whilst probably not big earners now, they will have been when in NL1 and so on a decent wage,
why not spend that on Berrigan?
also, whilst i understand your point re development of the team, at some stage you need an international class halfback and an international class hooker, you have neither of those, and they rarely come on the market,
before Berrigan and Tommy Lueluai when was the last move involving an SL club which included an internationally class half back?'"
Can't disagree with much of that. Webster and Fisher were both under contract for 2008, but I suppose Jim Gannon was as well. Berrigan would have improved us (making the big assumption he would have considered coming). Hopefully Webster and Fisher will show you that they are not too bad tonight.
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| Quote ="BalearicHullFan"icon_lol.gif You don't even understand whats wrong with that sentance, do you?'"
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Yes.'"
His uncle told me a similar thing today as well. Said he isnt too keen on Sharp but is eagar to sign a new contrct despite his dads wishes!
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| Quote ="BalearicHullFan"Oh FFS. The last bit was a joke. Get your head of our your backside (by the way that was a joke as well)
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| Quote ="Irregs #16"His uncle told me a similar thing today as well. Said he isnt too keen on Sharp but is eagar to sign a new contrct despite his dads wishes!'"
Well thats 4 or 5 of us he has told that to, wheres the rovers comeback?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"
before Berrigan and Tommy Lueluai when was the last move involving an SL club which included an internationally class half back?'"
You may not regard Cooke as 'internationally class', but he was a huge part of an admittedly good hull side that reached a challenge cup final and grand final in the space of a year. Considering they're the only competitions that matter to SL clubs, I'd say we have at least one half back good enough for a side with trophy aspirations.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Well thats 4 or 5 of us he has told that to, wheres the rovers comeback?
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Here.
I think most Rovers fans are not bothered one way or the other if he comes or not, lets face it he is a 'good' player not a 'great' player. If he comes he will be a good addition to the squad, nothing more. If we were talking about players of the calibre of Israel Falou or Greg Inglis, then I could get all excited, but for Craig Hall I honestly am not bothered either way.
The only ones of yours I think are really worth pushing the boat out for are Berrigan and possibly Carvell.
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| Quote ="rover49"Here.
I think most Rovers fans are not bothered one way or the other if he comes or not, lets face it he is a 'good' player not a 'great' player. If he comes he will be a good addition to the squad, nothing more. If we were talking about players of the calibre of Israel Falou or Greg Inglis, then I could get all excited, but for Craig Hall I honestly am not bothered either way.
The only ones of yours I think are really worth pushing the boat out for are Berrigan and possibly Carvell.'"
Not really the point being made though was it.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Not really the point being made though was it.'"
Yes he'd be a welcome addition to our squad, and there may have been 4 or 5 of you who've heard he wants to stay, but there's a damn sight more Rovers fans who won't lose any sleep either way.
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| Quote ="reddan"Yes he'd be a welcome addition to our squad, and there may have been 4 or 5 of you who've heard he wants to stay, but there's a damn sight more Rovers fans who won't lose any sleep either way.'"
Again nothing to do with the point being made from the statement that was quoted.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Again nothing to do with the point being made from the statement that was quoted.'"
The point is - there is no comeback because we like the lad, but we're not that a*sed if he stays with you. Geddit?
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| I'd like Hall to sign for Rovers, especially if what Zod about him counting as an academy player is true. If he doesn't, it'll hardly be a cause for wailing and gnashing of teeth though.
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| Quote ="reddan"You may not regard Cooke as 'internationally class', but he was a huge part of an admittedly good hull side that reached a challenge cup final and grand final in the space of a year. Considering they're the only competitions that matter to SL clubs, I'd say we have at least one half back good enough for a side with trophy aspirations.'"
well its not just me, he isnt internationally capped, and personally i dont think he is in the same class as either Mcguire or Pryce who are a step above any other british stand off
Since the 2000 the winners of the GF have had an internationally capped Half back, stand off, and Hooker
2007 Burrow Mcguire Diskin
2006 Long Pryce Cunningham/Roby
2005 Deacon Harris Newton
2004 Burrow Mcguire Diskin
2003 Deacon Paul Lowes
2002 Long Sculthorpe Cunningham
2001 Paul Paul Lowes
2000 Long Martyn Cunningham (martyn ill accept only played for Ireland in the WC)
this is the quality you need at 6, 7 and 9, you dont have anywhere near it, maybe Cooke could do it if he was surrounded by a quality scrum half, quality loose and quality hooker, but he isnt,
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"well its not just me, he isnt internationally capped, and personally i dont think he is in the same class as either Mcguire or Pryce who are a step above any other british stand off
Since the 2000 the winners of the GF have had an internationally capped Half back, stand off, and Hooker
2007 Burrow Mcguire Diskin
2006 Long Pryce Cunningham/Roby
2005 Deacon Harris Newton
2004 Burrow Mcguire Diskin
2003 Deacon Paul Lowes
2002 Long Sculthorpe Cunningham
2001 Paul Paul Lowes
2000 Long Martyn Cunningham (martyn ill accept only played for Ireland in the WC)
this is the quality you need at 6, 7 and 9, you dont have anywhere near it, maybe Cooke could do it if he was surrounded by a quality scrum half, quality loose and quality hooker, but he isnt,'"
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| Quote ="reddan"The point is - there is no comeback because we like the lad, but we're not that a*sed if he stays with you. Geddit?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"well its not just me, he isnt internationally capped, and personally i dont think he is in the same class as either Mcguire or Pryce who are a step above any other british stand off
this is the quality you need at 6, 7 and 9, you dont have anywhere near it, maybe Cooke could do it if he was surrounded by a quality scrum half, quality loose and quality hooker, but he isnt,'"
He's a different player to those two, and whilst you're correct in-so-much as he hasn't shown the same level of consistency, on top form he's as good in his own way.
Completely agree with you about the other positions. Webbo is a good little player and so is Fisher, but to be consistently in the top four you eventually need better.
Considering most Rover's fans would love our club to make top 6 this year, but would be perfectly happy with top 8, I don't think we're being unrealistic about our squad's quality. It's very difficult to go from NL, to SL play-offs in two seasons, but I think we'll go closer than most.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Dead cert for next season apparently.'"
Bet me a hundred pounds and I'll match ten for every quid that he IS NOT going to sign for KR but will stay at FC.
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| Quick Zod! Get the bet on. He hasn't said which season!
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| Quote ="rover49"Here.
I think most Rovers fans are not bothered one way or the other if he comes or not, lets face it he is a 'good' player not a 'great' player. If he comes he will be a good addition to the squad, nothing more. If we were talking about players of the calibre of Israel Falou or Greg Inglis, then I could get all excited, but for Craig Hall I honestly am not bothered either way.
The only ones of yours I think are really worth pushing the boat out for are Berrigan and possibly Carvell.'"
You were talking about Darren Lockyer, Cooper Cronk and Scott Prince not so long back and have ended up with Michael Dobson.
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| Quote ="The Kings of Hull"You were talking about Darren Lockyer, Cooper Cronk and Scott Prince not so long back and have ended up with Michael Dobson.
'" And you were going to get a top quality half back and ended up with Dykes so what is you point
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"Quick Zod! Get the bet on. He hasn't said which season!
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FFS - the next contract he signs.
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| Quote ="Ovid"FFS - the next contract he signs.
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| Quote ="Fuzzy~HKR"Is it true he has been offered a silly money 3 yr deal to stay then
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Less than 1/2 the going rate for an aussie reserve grade scrum half I've heard
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