Quality is quality, no matter who you get them from. The amazing thing is that (in Briscoes case) you allowed him to leave.

Not that amazing, he's a better player now than he was then.

Please dont keep rubbing it in.

Being pedantic,I would never had allowed it.

Sorry,I disagree,Briscoe has always given 100%,and I.M.O. was as good for Hull.

Not that much. He had a great partnership with Richard Horne and scored a shedload of tries running the middle channel on his shoulder. 4 tries in one game at Odsal. I remember on the way to Cardiff for the Challenge Cup final when news he was in hospital with appendicitis came through whilst we were at the motorway services, there were literally people sitting with heads in their hands. His contract re-negotiations with us stalled on the point that he was borderline international and was holding out for selection mid-season. So to suddenly claim he has risen to this elevated status on the back of his time at Rovers is overstating things.

True. Always considered him a class act at Hull.

But when he was at FC he wasn't a pivot was he you know with you getting rid of him for Tony who was marvelous in that role apparetly (Couldn't catch the bloody thing but who needs a FB who can catch or is willing to try and catch the high ball eh).
Would you say he is doing that a lot more than he was?

I'm saying he was a borderline international player then and he is now. Some are saying he is "3 times" the player now he was then. That's just not true.

I'm actually asking a question tbh.

You are making yourself sound so so bitter of Rovers, i love it

Your club let them go

Not at all. He's improved significantly under superior coaching/analysis from our world-class coaching set-up.

To add to this, I was watching Maka's hit on Wheeldon from last year's derby and it's alarming how fitter and stronger he is now than when he played under your regime.

Id say that being vice captain and then captain for many games during Vella's absence has enhanced Shaun's game so yes he is an improved player to the one that wore a B&W shirt.

Crossed the border since he moved clubs though

Rubbish, in what areas has he improved then? Bearing in mind he played in our sides that were finishing high in the league, won the challenge cup and reached a grand final, playing with players like Swain and Kearney.

good start to a debate!!

Let one go,but lets not start that old chestnut again.

=redEdited by GML.
With a response like that the troll wins.

And how happy they are.

Don`t doubt it mate.

I honestly couldnt put my finger on what the improvement is, but there is one.
He brought with him the same qualities he has now in defence and attack and the same level of commitment. But, since being at Rovers he has become noticed and applauded alot more for what he does.
Maybe it was the captaincy, I really dont know. But you cant help but think that if he had been treated the same at Hull as he is as Rovers his regular international honours may have come sooner.

Without doubt Cookie is now playing great footy for us, no doubt at Gateshull he was pivotal in their success, and no doubt had great partnerships there.

But Paul is a lot happier at Rovers, he was never 100% happy there, and always yearned to play for Rovers, hence why the lad used to turn up week in week at C.P. to watch Rovers.

He chose to play for Gateshull simply as then they were the more success side in the side , which obviously paid a more attractive salary and career opportunities.

But a lot happened at Gateshull , Cookie wanted to come to Rovers, he could have stayed there , got complacent and took his testimonial money, but he sacrified that ( well kind of

) to come to Rovers to help us secure our place in SL, and we are now the top team in the city by a country mile

cant we ban him then for being boring?

He would be if they'd let him in the Aussie-sponsored clique anyway

Prey tell, what do you know about it? I know you like to pretend you do, but get serious, you have any cold hard facts? Incidents to report of? Bullying in the changing rooms? Have you been stalking the players in their private time? I'm interested to hear them if you do.

I'm not saying what you say is false, as I have no clue and don't pretend to, but you are the one claiming to know the facts on the subject, tell us what you know Mrs B. For the first time, in a long time, I'm interested to hear what you have to say on a subject