Anyway, to come back to this.

Yes, a coach does coach the side, but when you're changing coaches the players should be that in coming coaches selections. Otherwise, when things don't go well you have the scenario of "Well, I'm coaching someone else's team".

We should be starting from scratch, a new vision, a new set up, a new way of doing things. The board's job is to facilitate that vision by providing the players (where possible) that the coach selects. Otherwise, why bother having one?

Any of us could turn a team out on the park given a bunch of players, the job of a coach is to select, garner (with the boards assistance) and meld a group of players into a cohesive structure.

We do have a new way of doing things!

The club is assembling a squad and then appointing a quality coach that can get the best out of his resources whilst being given the flexibility ( salary cap ) to bring in a couple of additions of his choosing. Seems to make perfecy sense to be.

Alternativley maybe you would prefer it if we hade made no preperation for next season yet and then appoint a coach that is likely to have limited knowledge of the british market and try to start signing players that are not already tied up in october?

Or alternatively get out there and appoint a coach immediately after announcing your old one is leaving instead of waiting over a month before you start interviewing. Get him in place and let him select his own signings. If you were making quality additions then it's not such a problem but some of these recent signings just smack of depseration and cheapness.

Or the fact that they are cheap and worth a punt on to see if we can turn them into something good? Abit like Luaiki(spelling) at FC and leaving the majority of the Cap we have left so the new coach can bring good experienced additions to the squad that he thinks will benefit the side?

I just think you'd have been a lot better served appointing a coach when it was clear Morgan was going and let him make his own signings instead of throwing a bunch of average players at him. I think you already have (as we have) enough mediocre players and expecting 2 or 3 quality additions to offset that is too ambitious. We'll see in the fullness of time.

Have you not stopped and thought to realise that maybe these quality coaches were tied down with their current jobs and were only available to discuss terms after such a period.

But, yes, we could have appointed a coach immediately and let them make their own signings, but this coach would probably have been on the scale of R.Agar, or indeed worse...

Out of curiosity, was Morgan announced as leaving before Pearson took over Hull?

Think so, might be wrong. Why?

It's a ludicrous way of going about things. At the very worst coaches inherit a team that the previous incumbrant has painstakingly assembled. It's often, unless you are McGuire, difficult enough to mould someone else's team into the one you want.

That situation is difficult.

But to arrive and be offered a rag bag mixture of cheap and cheerful off cuts that your all singing all dancing new chairman has taken it upon himself to deem are required is unusual at the very least. Beyond the pale at most. He'll have to hope Hudge has saved a bit of cap room and has the money to spend, or your new man will be in the unenviable position of inheriting a team a cash strapped solicitor has randomly mustered up.

Problem is, Neil's previous attempts at signings, Cooke and Msson, weren't relevant to Morgan's plans and both unravelled into destructive disasters that actually undermined what Morgan was doing on the pitch. So Hudge's track record isn't great.

Hope it doesn't put anyone off.

Id love to be as cash strapped as him; pretty sure 99.9% of the people on here would aswell.

Not doing bad if hes skint is he really.... sponsors the KC East Stand, a stand at Elland Road, runs a rather large solictors company. Offsets the clubs own funding by putting his own money into the club.

Dont let facts get in the way of your FC blinkers though will you pal.

Hudge loves signing players and tbf, for what he's done for our club most fans would allow him to do anything he wants, he's pretty much earned it.

You're right, it didn't work out when we had a coach so this way Hudge can sign all the players he fancies and then sign a coach who he thinks can do a job. Obviously he'll leave the coach a bit of cap space to get his own welcome presents.

It's a genius plan.

After over a decade as chairman, I'm not sure you can refer to Hudge as an "all singing all dancing new chairman".

I meant cash-strapped in his capacity as Rovers' Chairman - we all know how fast he's been running to catch all those ambulances. Perhaps he'll do an Allam and invest some of his millions into the club he loves?

How strange. You appear to change your mind as often as you do your pointy shoes:

You were right the first time, by the way.


He's all-singing-all-dancing in that he likes to have a go at most of the jobs down at Caravan Park. And he'll be the new coach's new chairman, regardless of how long he's been at Rovers. Silly.

Are you La Café in disguise. Do I really have to explain to you that that was a tongue in cheek post? Oh, I do, how silly of you.



We know this, we've all had a laugh about it as much, if not more than you undesirables.



Awful semantic pedantry.



Quite.

Not at all. I can't help it if you don't read things correctly in the first place.

So we agree on everything else? Wonderful. It's just the pointy shoes in the "lounge", then...

Hes put plenty into our club, and i would be shocked if anyone Rovers fan or not wouldnt see that.

Jealous of a man putting money into the club he loves and wouldnt see in the gutter rather then someone who is 100% into it for himself (ala pearson)...?

'We have made signings which are entirely based on the recommendations of the coaching staff as a whole, with opinion sought from one or two senior players but I expect we will leave several slots for the new coach to fill'.

(Neil Hudgell writing in his matchday programme notes)

The majority of the newbies are young lads with something to prove!

Obviously there is plenty of opportunity for the new coach to roll his own way beit that we should be well under-cap.

Just why our B&W buddies are so animated about the new Rovers set up surprises me... or does it?

Have 100% faith in our board to deliver!!!!

100% answered your own question there!


That aside, weve brough in Hodgeson for Fox (about the same money if not less?)
O'Hara for Vella (will be on less money)
Horne for Cook (about the same money)
Taulapapa for Briscoe (will be on less money)
Griffin for Colbon (the same or more likely less money)

Followed by Charlie, Newton, Mason & fisher going, id say we have an absolutely massive ammount of the cap left for the new coach to bring in quality players.

There's not alot of OOC quality over here, and you can't have much room on the Quota/Non-Fed list to bring in players from the NRL? Plenty of cap space left though.

The only other players I've seen you linked with are Withers & Paea, are you linked with anyone else?

I thinkyou will find 2013 is the season to look at as IIRC we will only have 4 or 5 of the current squad signed up beyond next season (unless some of the kids have had their deals extended) so the new coch will have a year to look at what we have got already, what he can bring in and then make his own team for 2013.

A tad harsh - you don't even know who it is yet.

I agree, the new coach will have his eye on recruiting HIS team for 2013

Whilst it is, of course, prudent to use the word "jealous" with reference to your fanatical little chairman, your context is wrong in this sentence. "Amused by..." would be more appropriate while we are commentating on his bum over boobs approach to team building for next year.

Hope not, if Cooks rumoured wages are true