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| Quote ="gingerspice"So how do u know rovers have not given Dobbo another title at the club to keep working for them, fortunately for us we dont have a board like fcs and as a lot of Fc fans have said on RH it's clever bit of footwork what rovers have done, it's quite sad that you all come out of the woodwork when u think things are going wrong.'"
I don't. But as his visa is for him to be a rugby player, they can't do that without breaching the terms of his visa.
I hope for their sake they haven't got him working somewhere in the club without permission
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| Quote ="gingerspice"So how do u know rovers have not given Dobbo another title at the club to keep working for them, fortunately for us we dont have a board like fcs and as a lot of Fc fans have said on RH it's clever bit of footwork what rovers have done, it's quite sad that you all come out of the woodwork when u think things are going wrong.'"
Would imagine his visa was granted as employed as player, so would think any change to his employment status would affect his visa and validity?
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| Quote ="Chris71"Would imagine his visa was granted as employed as player, so would think any change to his employment status would affect his visa and validity?'"
Rovers will have it covered and he is injured so he can't play anyways, parasol do employment law, hudgell is a solicitor, ok in say 8 wks time if his passport is not here that's a whole different story.
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| Big fuss about nothing I think , think they would have being given permission from RFL otherwise they wouldn't have done it
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| Quote ="Chris71"Would imagine his visa was granted as employed as player, so would think any change to his employment status would affect his visa and validity?'"
Yes it could.
If he's on a work permit, and given that Rovers licence is only for Sport visas, he can only be employed by them as a sports player, unless of course, he has another type of visa that doesn't have work restrictions (as Webster did).
If he's on a work permit and that employment ceases, the visa can be affected. If he gets taken on by another club, they can transfer it to them
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Big fuss about nothing I think , think they would have being given permission from RFL otherwise they wouldn't have done it'"
My god someone who talks sense
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Rovers will have it covered and he is injured so he can't play anyways, parasol do employment law, hudgell is a solicitor, ok in say 8 wks time if his passport is not here that's a whole different story.'"
But there is a difference between injured and deregistered? Think its an interesting case.
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| Quote ="Chris28"We'll see....
You'll be aware of course that if Rovers don't notify UKBA they could be in breach of their agreement with them on the licence they've got. If the licence is removed as a result of non-compliance, anyone covered by it has their visa curtailed too...'"
We didn't know that, but we do now thanks!
Edit; In fact, I've noticed a strange correlation in the speeding up and eventual arrival of Big Willie since Chris28 started very knowledgeably posting on the subject...
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Come on then Mrs B, will Dobson be making a suprise return just in time for good friday? You know one of those timely boosts?'"
Bl00dy hell, keep up. On the 27th Feb, just after the injury was announced as a 10 weeker:
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Also, how cliched that Vella's injury is "6 weeks but might be sooner". FFS Morgan, you make me look original. DOUBLE BOOST FOR ROVERS IN DERBY BUILD UP. I'd put it in flashing red lights if I could.
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| Quote ="gingerspice"[uRovers will have it covered [/uand he is injured so he can't play anyways, parasol do employment law, hudgell is a solicitor, ok in say 8 wks time if his passport is not here that's a whole different story.'"
They thought they did.......Oh dear
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| Quote ="pmh"We weren't but we are now thanks!
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| Quote ="pmh"We didn't know that, but we do now thanks!
Edit; In fact, I've noticed a strange correlation in the speeding up and eventual arrival of Big Willie since Chris28 started very knowledgeably posting on the subject...'"
Now there's no way I was on the grassy knoll for Dobbo's injury!
Unless you mean Hudge has started taking advice from cabbages....
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Big fuss about nothing I think , think they would have being given permission from RFL otherwise they wouldn't have done it'"
They didn't need permission from the RFL to de-register him, as according to the RFL statement they've complied with the Operational Rules and terminated his playing contract. I can't imagine that they didn't at least discuss his re-registration before going ahead, and the Operational Rules allow for the RFL board to sanction a re-registration if they so wish. Although the wording of the RFL statement seems a little odd if that's already cut and dried - wording similar to the HKR statement would have caused less heat and light.
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| Quote ="Kosh"They didn't need permission from the RFL to de-register him, as according to the RFL statement they've complied with the Operational Rules and terminated his playing contract. I can't imagine that they didn't at least discuss his re-registration before going ahead, and the Operational Rules allow for the RFL board to sanction a re-registration if they so wish. Although the wording of the RFL statement seems a little odd if that's already cut and dried - wording similar to the HKR statement would have caused less heat and light.'"
Maybe then Rovers have terminated his contract, and in 7 weeks time reinstate said contract? This would I guess be different than simply deregistering and reregistering?
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| Quote ="Kosh" Although the wording of the RFL statement seems a little odd if that's already cut and dried - wording similar to the HKR statement would have caused less heat and light.'"
With these two clubs? You really think so?
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Maybe then Rovers have terminated his contract, and in 7 weeks time reinstate said contract? This would I guess be different than simply deregistering and reregistering?'"
Possible, but I can't imagine them gambling on someone else not waving a big fat contract under his nose in the mean time. Can think of at least 1 team looking for a 7 next year when their current one buggers off to pastures new.
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| According to your unofficial forum, Nigel Wood of the RFL has just been on GMR and "stated very clearly that Michael Dobson is no longer a Hull Kingston Rovers player."
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Maybe then Rovers have terminated his contract, and in 7 weeks time reinstate said contract? This would I guess be different than simply deregistering and reregistering?'"
It's the only way to de-register and re-register according to the Operational Rules. If those rules have been followed as written...
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"Maybe then Rovers have terminated his contract, and in 7 weeks time reinstate said contract? This would I guess be different than simply deregistering and reregistering?'"
Then Dobson sues us for unfair dismissal and then we have to pay a fee and compensation to re sign him. That leaves us broke and unable to afford Big Willies wages, so he has to go on loan to Workington with them paying part, allowing us cap and salary space to sign O'Meley.
It's a big merry-go-round!
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| Anyone else hear this nigel wood radio thing?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"According to your unofficial forum, Nigel Wood of the RFL has just been on GMR and "stated very clearly that Michael Dobson is no longer a Hull Kingston Rovers player."
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For now he isn't but he is still contracted to rovers
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| Quote ="gingerspice"For now he isn't but he is still contracted to rovers'"
No he is not!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"No he is not!'"
Yes he is
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"No he is not!'"
He is lol
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"No he is not!'"
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