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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The money will have to be paid back to the central fund. If Rovers and/or Sirius and/or Hull Training get into financial difficulties or are disbanded for example, who makes the repayments then? ATEOTD the council have sought central government funding on behalf of a private limited company (Hull Kingston Rovers Football Club Limited) and have committed the council to underwriting the repayments for said private limited company. As for the "repayments paying for other local initiatives", that's just nonsense. It goes back to central government to repay the loan.'"
As you know Mrs G. If it all goes tits-up the council will bail it out. Thats the way it works.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko" black lesbian folk dancing club paying about a tenner a month rental.
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Sounds brill that, when are the tickets out and do I get a discount for being a pass holder?
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Erm, you appear to have just outed Madame Kenco as your wife...
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| Accept the point about any of the companies going bust and leaving the council to pay the debts but will they not be insured against such losses?
Also the extension will create jobs at the stadium. Although a drop in the ocean of the unemployment numbers it is still going to need building by brick layers, electricians, plumbers, scaffolders, plasterers, decorators, roofers. Then it will need cleaning, security let alone filling with office staff of which it has space for 40. The stand currently on this land will also need moving, again a job that needs paying for and will help other companies.
So taking away from just the PLC's occupying the stand, it being there alone will create approx 50 jobs long term and possibly 100's of jobs during the building stages.
Blinkered people just turn around and say "oh they are cutting the OPE and the IRE funding but giving £4m to Rovers." Anyone with just a few brain cells will see the bigger picture and know this is a loan that HKR have to pay the majority of back to the local council who in turn will pay back to the central fund. If we falter then I guess the council have grounds to set up a CCJ and possibly place us into Administration again, once this happens our SL licence is at great risk something I know the club can ill afford to do knowing that being put back in the Championship will be as good as losing a professional sports team from the city.
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| Quote ="nick hkr" Also the extension will create jobs at the stadium. Although a drop in the ocean of the unemployment numbers it is still going to need building by brick layers, electricians, plumbers, scaffolders, plasterers, decorators, roofers.'"
My guess is that whichever company actually builds the stand will already be employing such people either directly or as sub contractors, so i doubt it would herald that much 'new' employment.
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| Quote ="nick hkr"
Also the extension will create jobs at the stadium. Although a drop in the ocean of the unemployment numbers it is still going to need building by brick layers, electricians, plumbers, scaffolders, plasterers, decorators, roofers.'"
Like I said in a previous post and you have mentioned previously lets hope they use local contractors but look what happened with the floods, out of town contractors were used.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Like I said in a previous post and you have mentioned previously lets hope they use local contractors but look what happened with the floods, out of town contractors were used.'" I would imagine P&D will be looked at favourably.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Like I said in a previous post and you have mentioned previously lets hope they use local contractors but look what happened with the floods, out of town contractors were used.'"
That happens in most contractual work. As for the floods there were never enough builders/plumbers/sparkys etc in Hull to cope with that demand.
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| So still another fairly major hurdle to surmount.
What's that I hear?
INCOMING!
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| Quote ="pmh"So still another fairly major hurdle to surmount.
What's that I hear?
INCOMING!'" Indeed!!
I can hear the PC's being warmed up now.
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| Quote ="EAST HULL RED"www.hullkr.co.uk/article.php?id=1417'"
I now understand why HKR didn't come out shouting from the rooftops that we had this funding in place.
It seems we technically are a little nearer to getting the new North in place as if we dont get this last grant its still a none starter.
I also appriciate the clubs position and accept they have had to play it down a tad as many folks myself included though it was a done deal.
I wont pretend im not a tad disappointed and a little frustrated but its still progress none the less.
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| Mix of confidence and caution in that article. Lots of 'will' but a crucial 'should that be'.
I imagine Hull FC fans are searching for the Bratwurst Museum extension we will be competing with. Very culturally important stuff is bratwurst.
edit. Such a thing exists:
[urlhttp://www.bratwurstmuseum.net/index.htm[/url
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Mix of confidence and caution in that article. Lots of 'will' but a crucial 'should that be'.
I imagine Hull FC fans are searching for the Bratwurst Museum extension we will be competing with. Very culturally important stuff is bratwurst.'"
Why not share funding Hull Fans could sit in the new North Stand for the Derby eating a Bratwurst, everyones a winner
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Mix of confidence and caution in that article. Lots of 'will' but a crucial 'should that be'.
I imagine Hull FC fans are searching for the Bratwurst Museum extension we will be competing with. Very culturally important stuff is bratwurst.
edit. Such a thing exists:
[urlhttp://www.bratwurstmuseum.net/index.htm[/url'"
Often over seas signings are contracted to do community work as part of their role.
If we get Big Willie to do some fund raising for the bratwurst boys then the EU can free up the remaining money for the North stand, we could even name it "The Big Willie Sausage Stand".
Outside the box me.
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| Oh good grief, I've just found a new idol to worship.
Thüringer Bratwurstkönig Rudi I, King Of The Bratwurst. What a force him and Big Willie would make.
KAPOW! AWESOMESAUCE!
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"My guess is that whichever company actually builds the stand will already be employing such people either directly or as sub contractors, so i doubt it would herald that much 'new' employment.'"
Premier Inn on Hedon Road used the Chinese modular building firm instead of using many companies in Hull who have subsiquently gone out of business putting people such as myself onto the bread line.
Just because these people are already employed a local firm may need to rely on local building projects to keep staff employed or even expand their business on the back of building such a development.
Saying this we all want the best job possible and it has to come on or under budget so it may in fact be out of the clubs hands anyway. As stated by Hull White Star the flood damage caused to many homes were repaired (eventually) by out of towners. East Hull Red seriously there may not have been "enough" but that doesnt mean A LOT had to be overlooked!
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| Going on that article you linked to, I would be very surprised if your new North stand is anywhere near to being built or open by the start of 2012 season. Has work even started yet on the extension to your East stand?
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"Going on that article you linked to, I would be very surprised if your new North stand is anywhere near to being built or open by the start of 2012 season. Has work even started yet on the extension to your East stand?'"
Ask Kingston Droolers, he's building it.
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| Quote ="pmh"Ask Kingston Droolers, he's building it.'"
Busy at mo, got a shed to do first
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Looks like we're going to have a 13k+ capacity stadium.'"
Not according to your chairman
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"Busy at mo, got a shed to do first'"
Very good, I'm warming to you.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not according to your chairman
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| Quote ="Roofs"You're right, he said 14k didn't he.
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Thought it was going to be more 14 but 12k more like it ...
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| Quote ="Roofs"You're right, he said 14k didn't he.
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He said 12k. He was asked whether 12k was big enough and said yes.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"He said 12k. He was asked whether 12k was big enough and said yes.
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