I don't live in Hull so I don't care what KUHCC do with their money, but surely no one expects that they will just hand over £millions to a rugby club that can't fund it's own expansion when it's forced with making big cost cutting decisions in the near future? Handing over wads of cash wouldn't seem sensible when they're likely to be making large scale redundancies at some.

I do, however, think that the posters who are suggesting that the council "invest" in the area may be on to something. If the council gave rovers £4m for a new stand and then rovers started paying a commercial rate for renting of the council owned facility at say £200k p.a. It would giverovers teh ability to grow their fanbase and the council a decent return of 5% p.a.

And we all know that any council or community based project in the facility would really be paying lip service to it

It's also interesting to note that the council seem unwilling to "give" land to HUll FC to build their new training facility even though the club has around £1.3m of tehir own funds to put towards it

cant we start banning some of these numpties?

Even if/when the facilities are better I will still be giving my 4 tickets away every week



Apparently some poster wants me banning now for my numpty suggestion that Kingswood/Sutton Fileds/Hedon Road might of been a little bit silly to contemplate for a Super Stadium. I dread to think what will happen, I might get banned off here and have to do some work!!

What part of my post do you think is silly?

For a club that is £3million plus in debt and losing upwards of £500k year, what return are the council actually going to get for it's investment. Will it be a case of selling 2015 season passes in 2012 to cover the financial shortfall of actually paying a proper rent?

Some of the more sensible posters on here appear to be banging their head against a brick wall. Some Rovers fans will never be convinced of anything other than the council literally threw £43 million quid at Hull FC to build themselves a nice shiney new stadium anywhere they wanted and which they could use free of charge. No way in hell was there a whole consultation process with several possible sites considered and the best possible site chosen based on things like transport links. No Sireeeee it was all down to Hull FC demanding the council build them a stadium and only in the exact position they want. In fact I can exclusively reveal that the ONLY reason the stadium was built was so that Hull FC could get one over on Rovers. Fact.

Is it time to take the p1$$ out of FC for being tennants and having a really unfavourable rent agreement whilst pointing out we dont even own our stadium and football rule the roost yet?

Costs FC hundreds of thousands to play at The Kentucky Fooky Chucky, they don't even own it and the players have to clean all The Tiggers boots on a Sunday morning.

This has come about because it was all and only Rovers fans involved in the consultation every step of the way.

There is also one of those hideous green and orange Matchwinner kits buried under the half way line that I put a Romany curse on, back when I was a Romany from Romney Marsh before I found true love with gingerspice and moved to America, which with hindsight was a poor decision as it's costing me a fortune in plane tickets as a season pass holder and shoes because of all the ones I've ruined by crying on them when she calls me a mental.

Councils the length and breadth of the UK routinely offer support to businesses. The "return" they recieve is new jobs or safeguarding existing jobs and a boost to the local economy. Keeping businesses in business and paying business rates, people in employment paying rent and council tax as opposed to receiving rent allowance and benefits.

An economist might also cite the multiplier effect but I fear it would be lost on most posters who hold your stance on this argument.

Guarantee no, because the businesses need to be able to prove competence to carry out the work, but as long as they are then there is nothing wrong with the council awarding the contracts to local companies, even if they are more expensive than an out of town business.

80% of current rovers fans weren't watching the club when those accusations were flying around

Well this wasn't great:


after i had written this:


So can [ueveryone[/u, please take this as a =#FF0000final warning? Rhetorical question.

Preston Road got 56 million through NDC and East Park has had just had over 10 million I believe on it's transformation. East Hull gets it's share.

Phil Webbo would probably of been in his element here as a poster but I assume his return to Form as a Branshplme Councillor means he is now verbally shackled.

75/50% of all takings from a new North Stands ticket sales, the percentage decreasing year on year...
100% of takings from any other facilities thrown into a new Stand and which are ran by the council...

The Hull City Council would be helping out a club from Hull, supported by residents from Hull and improving an area of Hull, its not like the money would be going abroad or wasted on something that wouldn't be used.

I don’t know what gets spent and where but you’re absolutely right East Hull does get its fair share, my post you’ve quoted maybe sounds like I’m stood caressing a violin on behalf of East Hull, I’m not.

At the end of the day it goes back to the petition the Rovers fan group submitted asking for a slice of the King Comms profit to improve Craven Park, profit which Hull City & FC have done well from. (which is great)

FC fans: ‘Well Rovers had their chance to play at the KC’
Rovers fans: ‘Never going to happen the clubs based in East Hull’
Etc etc, blah blah blah

Personally I’d be happy with a couple of million to help, I don’t expect anything like the scale of the KC/West park development and i don't think the petition is asking for that.

Would you agree that rovers should start to pay proper rent on the stadium if the council do dip their hands into their pocket?

Fair enough. But would you be happy for the return of that investment to mean sharing CP with another sports team and paying a hefty rent as you become a "tenant" ?

Imperfect as it is, I think this compares pretty favourably with its less than impartial 'Rovers get the begging bowl out' cousin.


The above is a straw man, IMO - I don't think anybody has written anything like that. The KC is what it is and nobody is trying to change that. Without having to exaggerate their extent, we can see clearly that it has offered Hull FC great benefits. Hull KR would like to benefit in a similar way, albeit on a much smaller scale - which is natural enough. There may be economic and political arguments against the council helping to improve CP - but it very difficult to see any legitimate moral objection to Rovers , or their fans, asking.

If the council invest in a new North stand then yes i'd expect them to take rent (on the North stand) or a cut of profits made. I mentioned it earlier they could take 75% of all takings to begin with and then perhaps decrease this to 50% as the money is repaid, or something along those lines...?

A deal structured on similar principles to FC's at the KC would seem fair, based on the extent of the investment. And sharing with an amateur RL team or one of the RU teams would be fine by me.

I wouldn't expect the council to simply gift Rovers a North Stand, rent or return on the investment would have to be arranged.

I don't really know where you're coming from regarding sharing CP.

It's too open to abuse. Just a commercial rent on the place I would have said. Somewhere in the region of £200k p.a. which is probably about 1/3 of what Hull pay to use the KC, plus rovers make more from the bars etc

speedway or greyhounds would be the most commercially viable

I think he means a shared facility thus maximising income for the council as owner of the stadium as is the case at the KC

Deal...... so when we getting started?

Send me the 200 grand and I'll send the brickies round