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| Quote ="Kosh"They wouldn't have to de-register him, just come up with a way to ensure that enough of his wages came off the the cap to accommodate any overspill from Clinton. For instance, if they could demonstrate that a loan agreement was just about tied up and promised not to play him in the meantime...'"
And Clinton and Cooke never took the field together, it all becomes clear.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"And Clinton and Cooke never took the field together, it all becomes clear.
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What difference does that make, we were still paying both players wages
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| Quote ="Kosh"They wouldn't have to de-register him, just come up with a way to ensure that enough of his wages came off the the cap to accommodate any overspill from Clinton. For instance, if they could demonstrate that a loan agreement was just about tied up and promised not to play him in the meantime...'"
bit hard that when the word is rovers are still picking a chunk of his wage bill while at wakey
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| Cookies problem has always been a simple one.
He was in a team where he was a God who won the challenge cup for them and his display at Saints got them to the GF.
He then moved to a Team where the Fans (me included) made him the mesiah but he would never be bigger than Morgan as he assured that and Webster.
He went from being the man to be being one of many men, Several players get a louder clap on the team sheet read out than Cooke and have done for a while.
He has spat his dummy and just like my boss would his boss has apparently said if you dont like it you know where the door is.
Rovers (and HUDGE being more specific) had a choice, they let cooke go or Morgan goes i know who my choice would be.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"What difference does that make, we were still paying both players wages'"
Read Kosh's post.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Read Kosh's post.
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And you honestly think the RFL base the way they audit the salary cap on what might or might not happen?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"And you honestly think the RFL base the way they audit the salary cap on what might or might not happen?
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Depends how far advanced negotiations are. Look, it took Clinton 12 weeks to get here, and Orford 5, amid speculation that Rovers needed to offload a player to accomodate Clinton. Clinton arrives in the country, Cooke's dropped immediately and 11 days after Clinton's debut is shipped out to West Yorkshire. All entirely coincidental, I'm sure.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Depends how far advanced negotiations are. Look, it took Clinton 12 weeks to get here, and Orford 5, amid speculation that Rovers needed to offload a player to accomodate Clinton. Clinton arrives in the country, Cooke's dropped immediately and 11 days after Clinton's debut is shipped out to West Yorkshire. All entirely coincidental, I'm sure.'"
If Paul Cooke was playing superbly well and we were winning games you may have a point, however he wasn't and we weren't.
He's removed and we turn our form around. It's been well known Justin has wanted rid for a very long time, possibly as long as when he was dropped for the derby for been "Unfit for selection"
Wakefield have space after the Terry Newton fiasco and obviously have contacted Rovers about a player John Kear is a known admirer of and doesn't look like he is in the first team picture at his current club
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| Thread cleaned up. While weird scatological revenge fantasies are not explicitally forbade by the AUP, we can certainly do without them.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"If Paul Cooke was playing superbly well and we were winning games you may have a point, however he wasn't and we weren't.
He's removed and we turn our form around[u. It's been well known Justin has wanted rid for a very long time[/u, possibly as long as when he was dropped for the derby for been "Unfit for selection"
Wakefield have space after the Terry Newton fiasco and obviously have contacted Rovers about a player John Kear is a known admirer of and doesn't look like he is in the first team picture at his current club'"
No kidding. Yet the usual suspects on here have continually denied any issues and when I posted what you've done have demanded "links" to printed evidence.
I agree that it's a good move for Rovers. If the rumours are true, though, it's questionable. You go from Cooke to Brough - the next step on that particular continuum is surely Frank Gallagher from Shameless.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"No kidding. Yet the usual suspects on here have continually denied any issues and when I posted what you've done have demanded "links" to printed evidence.
I agree that it's a good move for Rovers. If the rumours are true, though, it's questionable. You go from Cooke to Brough - the next step on that particular continuum is surely :yvr9cay8Frank Gallagher from Shameless.[/
or sean long
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Depends how far advanced negotiations are. Look, it took Clinton 12 weeks to get here, and Orford 5, amid speculation that Rovers needed to offload a player to accomodate Clinton. Clinton arrives in the country, Cooke's dropped immediately and 11 days after Clinton's debut is shipped out to West Yorkshire. All entirely coincidental, I'm sure.'"
That, to me, looks like another association fallacy to go alongside 'you are paying a fortune to Cooke, that is why you are losing Ā£400k pa.'
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"That, to me, looks like another association fallacy to go alongside 'you are paying a fortune Cooke, that is why you are losing Ā£400k pa.''"
It's speculation. You know, like people speculating that Morgan didn't get on with Cooke, much derided though that particular "fallacy" was.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"bit hard that when the word is rovers are still picking a chunk of his wage bill while at wakey'"
But not all of it. Which could easily make the difference.
Just idle speculation of course.
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| Reported 100k to compensate a lost testimonial
Reported 125k a year salary for 3 years
So how many of you red n whites think the Cockie years were worth it?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"And you honestly think the RFL base the way they audit the salary cap on what might or might not happen?
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Yeah, true. I mean, who could possibly imagine the RFL bending the rules if it suited them.
Accommodations have been reached before, and it wouldn't even be against the rules if interpreted in a certain way.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Yeah, true. I mean, who could possibly imagine the RFL bending the rules if it suited them.
Accommodations have been reached before, and it wouldn't even be against the rules if interpreted in a certain way.'"
Is the slary cap still live and teams have to submit figures each month?
If so, then rovers would have known that they had a short space of time to off load someone.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"Reported 100k to compensate a lost testimonial
Reported 125k a year salary for 3 years
So how many of you red n whites think the Cockie years were worth it?'"
Reported by whom?
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| Somehow all us Hull Fans just knew this day would come. "Welcome home Cookie, the team you've always wanted to play for", does anyone still believe it was this and not the massively over inflated wages you were foolish enough to pay him.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Reported by whom?'"
Bertie, although his recent proclamations have been shown to be decidedly ropey when it comes to accuracy.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"Is the slary cap still live and teams have to submit figures each month?
If so, then rovers would have known that they had a short space of time to off load someone.'"
Yes it is (I assume you mean "salary"?), and no they wouldn't cos it doesn't work like that. I could try to explain it but I would have to use a couple of long-ish words so I'm not going to even try.
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| You just cannot believe the way the Cooke story has unfolded over the past 3 years.
It makes the impending? book even more interesting reading in the future.
To think this is a bloke, naturally gifted, showed some real class at times and at 28 is being ousted by a club that broke the bank and several rules to get him there.
Sorry Paul, you did it all wrong in my eyes, you shouldve rode out your career for a while yet at Hull and then gone on and played for your boyhood heroes and nobody wouldve begrudged you for doing that. Instead, all its done is stoke the fire and all the ill feeling between the two clubs (probably irrepairable) by being easliy led by arrogant individuals who clearly, have'nt had your best interests at heart.
An on fire Paul Cooke will always get you there or thereabouts to a win in a game of footy.
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."
To think this is a bloke, naturally gifted, showed some real class at times and at 28 is being ousted by a club that broke the bank and several rules to get him there.
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Do us a favour, point me in the direction of the rules broken by Rovers.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Do us a favour, point me in the direction of the rules broken by Rovers.
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guilty as proved
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