I think you'll find buster when raynors case was going on i wanted him out, dont like bad guys buster, whats all this jog on, are you danny dyer?

funny you should say that, er no! but i did see a tv prog last nite which he presented! as for raynors case, i did'nt bother posting as i was'nt all that concerned with the goings on at gateshead. not all red n whites are obsessed.

just trying to put my point across, im not obsessed, i just love rugby not some of the idiots that play thats all.

All people on here know is what has been reported in the press, the full version of events wasn't reported. Journalists are payed to write stories that sell papers, sometimes missing out events which have happened makes the stories more interesting to the reader and thus more papers are sold.

I'm not condoning what BC did but there were mitigating circumstances that lead to the events that have not been told to the public. Obviously the judge has heard these and I'm positive he remanded them in custody to show them what life is like on the other side and to make them realise how lucky they have been when he gave them their sentence. Ben will get his head down, pay his fine, do his CS and get back on with doing the one thing he loves most, playing rugby league, whether its with Hull KR or Normanton Knights Ben loves the game and this will make him realise how lucky he is to be able to still play the game. Bens a very strong character and Im sure he'll come through this and it will mature him as both a player and a person.

So you will be writing to FC about them sacking their naughty boy in the morning I presume(sp)??
You will also never cheer another Raynor try I guess?
I do hope so as we dont want you to have double standards do we.
For me its a case of FCand Rovers as clubs have made their choice on this matter (Rovers must have a plan of action I assume) do I like the fact that convicted cons are plying their trade at clubs in this city.
Not really but that decision has been made (As I mentioned above) and thats pretty much it.

I see your point but IMO the sustained nature of the attack and the fact they went back for another go negates any claim it was a heat of the moment incident and elevates the seriousness of the crime above the (still unforgivable) ones of Raynor and Cooke. The defence said something about "25 seconds of insanity". When you're getting your head kicked in, that's quite a long time.

What is your opinion of Gareth Raynor then and Leon Price ?

When was the last time drug dealers got off with a suspended sentence , oh yes wait a few months back because they had the title of Lord and Lady.
Not condoning what he did it was shocking but please do not turn this argument into a Rovers v Hull . I wouldn't have been suprised if he had gone down for what he had done .

I cannot condone the actions of Ben but what i can say and is based on my own past expierences is, that by punishing him further and dismissing him from rovers would not put any of the wrongs to right or serve any further purpose imo.
i wasn.t a thug in my younger days but i did get into one or two situations of which i still regret and wish i hadn't to this
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He carried out an assult almost two years ago and no doubt one day he will look back and wish he also could turn back the clock, its called growing up and been responsible for your actions.
To be fair to him he has conducted himself a lot better over the last year or so and hopefuly this lesson will make him realise he's in a privileged position and put him on the right path.
If he was expelled from rovers,or from rugby league in general, would that make him a better person?, no of course it would not, if anything it could even have the opposite effect.
After reading some of the posts on here, i suspect that there are certain people who just want blood because of who he is and who he plays for, not for what he did.

This subject has provoked a wide spectrum of opinion in my own mind let alone this thread, but in terms of a player's behaviour, I've never been so rattled in all my my years as Hull Kingston Rovers supporter...

I'd have been quite happy if we had sacked him and the RFL deregistered him for bringing the game into disrepute. This is one area the NRL is way ahead of us on.

Fortunately RL is seen as a minor sport and doesn't get much media attention or stories like these would be very damaging for clubs and the game as a whole.

I really hope he learns his lesson and moves on - he is such a lucky boy - just remember Leon Walker and count your blessings.

Cant help but think that if rovers sack Ben then another club will sign him anyway.

Also if RFl do do something and suspend Ben.. they must then continue with consistency, particularly in the case of Pryce & Reardon etc.

Consistency is the biggest problem in our sport the RFL seem to have fads and then forget future incidents

He's a lucky boy, lets hope he leanrs his lesson. I am all in favour of the RFL and clubs taking further action against players in these cases.

The legal system judges every case on individual merits ,like was the attack sustained,did the victim offer any form of aggression in return,could the victims injuries have been fatal or left any long term effects and more importantly will the defendant be any further danger to the public.
He's a very lucky man not to be behind bars right now, like most have said already and this is becoming a little problem in our game.We used to pride our selves on respect, honour and gentlemanly behaviour on and off the field.Do the decent thing Rovers and the RFL ban him.We've seen one system fail in doing its job properly. Now do yours.

As stated there have been a number of incidents recently, including one involving Matt Calland , I doubt that this and any other previous incidents will be now be investigated retrospectively.

I do not agree with the 'make an example of ' style of punishment either.

The RFL have had enough incidents involving violence to consider, to instigate there own punishments but have failed to do so - AFAIK.
The RFL and British sport in general do however have a very low tolerance to drug use , including those classed by some as 'recreational'.

Yes he is lucky but if the Rugby League decides to ban him then lets hope if Pryce and Reardon get done they should get the same punishment like phlip flop said especially Pryce its twicw now for him.

I haven't, because what he did has nothing to do with Rovers. They now have to pick up the pieces and whatever they end up doing they're going to make [isomebody[/i unhappy.

He's a lucky lad to get a (relatively) lenient sentence for an offence that typically results in jail time. I'm not going to comment on whether it's 'unduly lenient' or not as I don't have all the facts of the case that the Judge will have had access to when deciding on an appropriate punishment. I just hope that Cockayne appreciates how stupid he's been and how fortunate he is, and makes better choices in the future.

I cannot condone what he did, regardless of the circumstance.

Im an FC fan and making an example of him would not be beneficial to anyone. There have been numerous misdeameanours from more 'high profile' stars - so the example should have been made of them.

Unfortuntely, if your life (and wage) is derived on performing in the public eye, then youre actions must also be be based on what happens in the public eye.
You cannot simply shirk your reponsibilities once off the pitch.

Morgan has huge respect from his players, and he'll certainly be talking to BC. Im sure people like Vella and Gene will also be sorting BC out.

All the best to Kr in the Derby. Lets hope it all stays on the field.

What ben has done is wrong and should of warrented a jail term of more than 3 nights, but who am i to judge, he has been up in court and has recieved his punishment although lenient indeed there are far worse crimes and more dangerous people let off for far worser crimes see here www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ution.html

What ben has done is wrong and should of warrented a jail term of more than 3 nights, but who am i to judge, he has been up in court and has recieved his punishment although lenient indeed there are far worse crimes and more dangerous people let off for far worser crimes see here www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ution.html

Especially as a racial element to ANY crime seems to carry a jail sentence. I think any act of violence that results in such convictions deserves a jail stint, Cockayne, Raynor, Pryce or Reardon and it seems that sportsman are immune from being banged up.

I think the majority of the more sensible FC fans on here HAVE condemned thuggery by their own players, admittedly some are treating it like a Rovers v Hull FC thing, but at the end of the day Ben was convicted of a serious offence, which some of us believe (when taking the supporter bit away) that he deserved a bit of slopping out time, this also goes for Raynor as well as any other thug in a rugby shirt.

Ben has had his sentence, some think it was lenient, some don't and as a player on match days he will get my support, but I hope he has learned his lesson and knuckles down to develop himself both as a player and as a man and cut out the crap, he is capable of becoming a much better player.

He also has to remember he is a role model for all the kids who adore him because of his commitment and love of this club.

So long as its not selective, I agree.

Would Rovers be tempted to pre-empt the RFL and suspend Cockayne internally? (or has this been done and ive missed it?)