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| Quote ="The Key"He vary rarely drops the ball. It's just he's had about 4 games where he has been terrible and people judge him on those games. That and the fact he sometimes doesn pick the ball up off the ground as quick as he should.
I wouldn't say hes great under the high ball, but I would say hes alright-good'"
Maybe so, I'm not disputing he's an excellent runner of the ball, I'm just not convinced (from what I've seen) regards the rest of his game.
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| Quote ="GJB"Maybe so, I'm not disputing he's an excellent runner of the ball, I'm just not convinced (from what I've seen) regards the rest of his game.'"
As you say, running of the ball he is excellent at. Catching the ball I have already covered. He isn't the best at picking the ball off the ground either. His positioning imo is very good, he has a very good rugby brain, brave, very good tackler. He is a 100% effort player, I have never seen him give anything less which is the type of player we serious lacked last season.
I don't rate his passing skills too highly though, and feel that he is used wrongly as a ball handler, but thats usually due to the fact we don't have one at 13 which is something I disagree with
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Agree with all that. Can't get my head around the open chequebook approach of Warrington towards their playing squad but going for Lowes as coach.'"
I totally agree Mrs B; imagine how well Warrington would go with a decent coach. I hope they hang onto Lowes.
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| Quote ="joburg"I totally agree Mrs B; imagine how well Warrington would go with a decent coach. I hope they hang onto Lowes.
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In the past, I havent really rated their pack and even as of now I dont rate it too highly. I rate Morley, Carvell and Westwood, but not really the others. Clarke isn't too bad, but Higham, the Andersons, Rauhihi etc are overrated imo. They would need to strenghen that still to get anywhere near the top
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| Quote ="The Key"He vary rarely drops the ball. It's just he's had about 4 games where he has been terrible and people judge him on those games. That and the fact he sometimes doesn pick the ball up off the ground as quick as he should.
I wouldn't say hes great under the high ball, but I would say hes alright-good'"
And Dobson had one bad game at St Helens and apparently based on that is garbage according to some on your forum.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"And Dobson had one bad game at St Helens and apparently based on that is garbage according to some on your forum.'"
And what has what other people say got anything to do with what I say? Maybe some of them don't rate Motu either?
I don't think Dobson is garbage but I don't think he is all that good either. I'm glad we didn't sign him, the only problem been we havent signed anyone else good enough to be our 7
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| Quote ="The Key"And what has what other people say got anything to do with what I say? Maybe some of them don't rate Motu either?
I don't think Dobson is garbage but I don't think he is all that good either. I'm glad we didn't sign him, the only problem been we havent signed anyone else good enough to be our 7
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Fair enough, I can understand the negative comments about Dobsons form in the NRL but is your opinion the same based on his performances in SL(Catalans, Wigan and HKR)?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Fair enough, I can understand the negative comments about Dobsons form in the NRL but is your opinion the same based on his performances in SL(Catalans, Wigan and HKR)?'"
Yes it is. For Catalans I thought he did ok. I think he was really overrated at Wigan. He did well, dont get me wrong, but he was given way too much credit for their revival. For Rovers, from what I've seen, I don't think he has done much. I don't think Rovers changed too much when he was brought in. Again, I'm not saying hes done crap (although he has had a couple of stinkers) I just think he is far from the top 7s in this league like Burrow and Long
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| Quote ="The Key"Yes it is. For Catalans I thought he did ok. I think he was really overrated at Wigan. He did well, dont get me wrong, but he was given way too much credit for their revival. For Rovers, from what I've seen, I don't think he has done much. I don't think Rovers changed too much when he was brought in. Again, I'm not saying hes done crap (although he has had a couple of stinkers) I just think he is far from the top 7s in this league like Burrow and Long'"
I actually thought he was excellent for both Catalan and Wigan and he got heeps of praise for both efforts at each club. Coming into a side half way through the season is a difficult job and all credit to him he showed some real glimpses of class at times, along with one shocker of a game against Saints.
Again for me his form in SL has been very good and I'm not saying he is as good as Burrows or as influential as Long. I think he is going to chip in with a good number of try's and by the looks of his last season goal kcking percentage, plenty of goals.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"seen your delusion on your own page! your a joke mate
where were his leadership skills when he left fielden to catch that kick off in the last minute of the playoffs against us. he should of owned that play, but wasnt man enough to do his job. fielden knocks on game over! the rest is history 81 mins later leeds are champs'"
Fielden is under the ball and goes to catch he is not going to jump in and catch it for him, he is a pro rugby player, prop or back he should catch that every time, that was a Fielden shocker. Idiot. We have no idea who called for it as we were not on the pitch, so your conclusion from that is poor.
I am very optimistic so posts on our board are always about the positives, and I always give my opinion, my opinion is I would rather have Richards than Donald as he offers more to the team. People like you just clearly dont understand opinions. I respect yours.
Hull KR will have a good season, but the hopes of the fans are to high, Hull KR are a mid table team and will be lucky to finish above 6th. I would rather see Hull KR up there than the likes of Bradford though.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Hull KR will have a good season, but the hopes of the fans are to high, Hull KR are a mid table team and will be lucky to finish above 6th. I would rather see Hull KR up there than the likes of Bradford though.'"
Dont think many of our fans have predicted breaking into the higher ranks of the league yet. 6th is a real and fair shout for us to finish after last seasons 7th place finish.
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| Quote ="GJB"So you're suggesting he is great under the high ball then?'"
I'm saying, not suggesting, that apart from one game at the beginning of last season he is perfectly safe under the high ball.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm saying, not suggesting, that apart from one game at the beginning of last season he is perfectly safe under the high ball.'"
Come on, lets be sensible. He has great energy and commitment, he helps out loads with his dummy half scoots but good under the high ball he's not!
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Come on, lets be sensible. He has great energy and commitment, he helps out loads with his dummy half scoots but good under the high ball he's not!'"
You're wrong.
IMO.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm saying, not suggesting, that apart from one game at the beginning of last season :nunto0l8he is perfectly safe under the high ball.[/
If i could be ar$ed i'd direct you to the multi page thread on your own board which says very different
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| Quote ="Enlightened"Quote ="Kosh"I'm saying, not suggesting, that apart from one game at the beginning of last season he is perfectly safe under the high ball.[/quote
If i could be ar$ed i'd direct you to the multi page thread on your own board which says very different
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I'm fairly sure that's why he put IMO, IMO!
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| Quote ="Enlightened"I'm saying, not suggesting, that apart from one game at the beginning of last season he is perfectly safe under the high ball.
If i could be ar$ed i'd direct you to the multi page thread on your own board which says very different
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So because a lot of people say he is crap under the high ball, he is wrong? A lot of people thought Hitler was doing good, were they right?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I actually thought he was excellent for both Catalan and Wigan and he got heeps of praise for both efforts at each club. Coming into a side half way through the season is a difficult job and all credit to him he showed some real glimpses of class at times, along with one shocker of a game against Saints.
Again for me his form in SL has been very good and I'm not saying he is as good as Burrows or as influential as Long. I think he is going to chip in with a good number of try's and by the looks of his last season goal kcking percentage, plenty of goals.'"
I think this is one of the occasions were people have differing opinions and can say 'agree to disagree?'
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| Quote ="Enlightened"If i could be ar$ed i'd direct you to the multi page thread on your own board which says very different
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Read my sig.
People often see what they want to see. And those who like to complain make the most noise.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Come on, lets be sensible. He has great energy and commitment, he helps out loads with his dummy half scoots but good under the high ball he's not!'"
Correction. Indeed, under the high ball Motu had no confidence for the first 3 games - probably manifested by the crowd's tense silence every time a ball was lobbed up.
By the St Helens game away, though - the 4th I believe - which wasn't televised and only witnessed by the loyal away support, he gritted his teeth and pocketed a horrendous high ball in the first 15 mins. The screams and cheers from the Faithful set the scene for the rest of his season.
From that moment - until he got injured, from what I recall (and I did see every game) - Motu was safe under the high.
You could see his confidence build - by the end he was plucking them out of the air. It wasn't that he was "crap" under the high ball, merely that he had no confidence due to the early mistakes and the crowds' resulting holdings of breath.
Can't wait to see him back - he'll do us proud (thanks for the concern, though).
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| Quote ="phil webbo"Outstanding, love the subtle way you placed Rovers 9th, but think only the teams third to eighth will be in a positional lottery, as you point out all six have weaknesses but you apparently think all are to strong for Rovers, did you not watch any rugby last season, with the inclusion of Salford and Celtic you think Rovers will drop 2 places
let me remind you YOU FINISHED 1 PLACE OFF BOTTOM
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I completely agree with Paul M, my opinion is that Rovers won't finish in the top 8. That was last season Hull finished bottom.
From a neutral's point of view, Hull KR v Hull FC:
Briscoe Tony
Colbon Calderwood
Walker Yeaman
Webster Byrne
Fox Raynor
Cooke = Horne
Dobson Thorman
Fozzard Dowes
Fisher Berrigan
Mills = Cusack
Newton Radford
Galea Tickle
Murrell Washbrook
Gene Crocker
Wheeldon Thackray
Netherton Manu
Vella Horne
9-6 to Hull and I think they'll beat you to 8th.
My full prediction:
Leeds
Saints
Wigan
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Bradford
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Hull FC
Hull KR
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I completely agree with Paul M, my opinion is that Rovers won't finish in the top 8. That was last season Hull finished bottom.
From a neutral's point of view, Hull KR v Hull FC:
Briscoe Tony
Colbon Calderwood
Walker Yeaman
Webster Byrne
Fox Raynor
Cooke = Horne
Dobson Thorman
Fozzard Dowes
Fisher Berrigan
Mills = Cusack
Newton Radford
Galea Tickle
Murrell Washbrook
Gene Crocker
Wheeldon Thackray
Netherton Manu
Vella Horne
9-6 to Hull and I think they'll beat you to 8th.
My full prediction:
Leeds
Saints
Wigan
Warrington
Catalans
Bradford
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Hull KR
Harlequins
Castleford
Wakefield
Salford
Celtic'"
You have to laugh we finished 7th last season with a big injury list, now with an even stronger side you're saying we will finish a place lower ?
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| Quote ="rhino77"From a neutral's point of view, Hull KR v Hull FC:
Briscoe Tony
Colbon Calderwood
Walker Yeaman
Webster Byrne
Fox Raynor
Cooke = Horne
Dobson Thorman
Fozzard Dowes
Fisher Berrigan
Mills = Cusack
Newton Radford
Galea Tickle
Murrell Washbrook
Gene Crocker
Wheeldon Thackray
Netherton Manu
Vella Horne
9-6 to Hull and I think they'll beat you to 8th.
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A few intersting match up's there, a good number I disagree with.
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| Sorry Rhino
But no way on earth is Tickle the equal of Ben Galea nevermind better.
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