so you,re saying cos hull have a few more fans than kr the bookies will lengthen the kr price and leave themselves open to pro gamblers ,at a push maybe 10% of hull fans in this case will have a bet on the match yet millions with no affiliation to either team will bet on the game so your theory doesnt stand up in this case but i agree with the england example because of the large numbers involved

You can`t beat positive thinking.

Bookmakers adjust their odds based on the money that is placed. If for example there was a massive flurry of money on KR you will notice the handicap will drop or Rovers may even be installed as favourites. It is to a certain extent based on opinion/form etc but it is a question of maths and the odds are offered in a way that means the bookies are unlikely to lose big amounts. It's not got anything to do with the size of the club but about the people who are placing a bet. Odds offered by the bookies are essentially based on the opinions of those who are betting.

So in a nut shell....
It's not the bookies that rarely get it wrong, it is in fact the fans who rarely get it wrong?

In effect yes, the bookies love it when an outsider wins because the reason they were outsiders is that not much money was placed on them.

Over the course of the season I could probably predict 70% of the games. However there's no money to be made because most people tend to pick similar results.

last time i looked both sides where 33/1, that means they give us both the same chance.

bookies and generous are 2 words that dont really go together MR

Where did you look? The majority of bookies have us down as shorter odds in both competitions, you may find the odd one where we are even if it gives you some comfort.

At present in Done Bookmakers KR are 28/1 to win the Grand Final and Finish top of SL FC are 25/1. This is the first game of the season and as so many people have mentioned there are 6 games to be played on this pitch before we clash. Surface could be unpredictable which in some cases could amke it a great leveller either way which ever team your predicting a win for. Derby games can go down to a drop goal in the last minute or a fantastic cover tackle in an other no one knows. We all expect our teams to compete and paly quality rugby league something am sure the KR fans will enjoy this season with Green and Dobson. Lets all look forward to a great day and may the best team win, as long as they wear red and white and are called HKR.

Oh sorry forgot to say i predict KR 22-10 with Green scoring 1st try......

I predict that you are a massive rarscalrt.

totes 33/1. in all honesty i havent seen Hull higher or lower odds than us.

I got Hull to win with a 2 point handicap. Snatched the bookies hand of almost

We're 12-3 up amongst neutral supporters on the VT predictions thread. I think the extra pre-season game will help, but I wish I was quite as confident.

Impossible to predict, very evenly matched sides, no form to go off (not that it ever matters on Derby Day) as ever the nearer the day gets the more the doubts creep in.

Rovers by four.

i said earlier in the thread, 22 - 18 Rovers and im sticking to it, the mud bath pitch could be a leveller.

What is this MR?

Virtual Terrace..If you press board index it is the one near the top, general rugby league is discussed on here by fans from all clubs.

Ooooooooh, you do have some uses coming onto our board

12-22 to Hull FC. Without Mason's influence I fear we'll buckle under the onslaught of the Tongan Mafia.

Edited.

Please please please can we as Rovers fans not refer to them as the Tongan Mafia, There is nothing remotely mafioso about them. One's a quality player the other two are puddings.

Ya know Easty. Ya come on here and ya don't show no respect.

and two of them are not tongan.