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| Back to topic, despite the Generals optimism on crowd increases, I have been watching Rovers for over 35 years and we have never regularly got over 9000 average crowds never mind 10,000. I am concerned that despite a successful 2009 we averaged under 9,000 average crowds. I just don't think there are any more fans out there who will regularly attend. The extension is great news for existing fans but expecting that to balance the books is short sighted and folly. We need to budget within our means or suffer the consequences. If this means spending less on players salaries, so be it. Better to be a SL also rans long term than a short lived success going bust. '"
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| Quote ="insider knowledge":2vqmdea1Back to topic, despite the Generals optimism on crowd increases, I have been watching Rovers for over 35 years and we have never regularly got over 9000 average crowds never mind 10,000. I am concerned that despite a successful 2009 we averaged under 9,000 average crowds. I just don't think there are any more fans out there who will regularly attend. The extension is great news for existing fans but expecting that to balance the books is short sighted and folly. We need to budget within our means or suffer the consequences. If this means spending less on players salaries, so be it. Better to be a SL also rans long term than a short lived success going bust. '"
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| Quote ="WormInHand"
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They wont believe its a rovers fan with a statement like that, they'll claim its and FC fan in disguise.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"They wont believe its a rovers fan with a statement like that, they'll claim its and FC fan in disguise.'"
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| Quote ="insider knowledge"Back to topic, despite the Generals optimism on crowd increases, I have been watching Rovers for over 35 years and we have never regularly got over 9000 average crowds never mind 10,000. I am concerned that despite a successful 2009 we averaged under 9,000 average crowds. I just don't think there are any more fans out there who will regularly attend. The extension is great news for existing fans but expecting that to balance the books is short sighted and folly. We need to budget within our means or suffer the consequences. If this means spending less on players salaries, so be it. Better to be a SL also rans long term than a short lived success going bust. '"
Fair post. I think the extension will draw in some more fans - we'll have to wait to see how many, but it won't be a cure-all. In part the costs are being covered by partners and it gets the club closer to a franchise tick-point (capacity), and shows the RFL that things are still moving in the right direction. Definately a positive step. I was a bit OCD about the lack of symmetry with only one end extended, but I won't now need to waste the time of an NHS psychiatrist so everyone is a winner (my wife can just learn to live with my refusal to set the television volume to prime numbers)
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Fair post. I think the extension will draw in some more fans - we'll have to wait to see how many, but it won't be a cure-all. In part the costs are being covered by partners and it gets the club closer to a franchise tick-point (capacity), and shows the RFL that things are still moving in the right direction. Definately a positive step. I was a bit OCD about the lack of symmetry with only one end extended, but I won't now need to waste the time of an NHS psychiatrist so everyone is a winner (my wife can just learn to live with my refusal to set the television volume to prime numbers)'"
Do you honestly believe that there are hordes of fans who have not been attending games in your best season for 25 years just because they have to sit in a seat at one end rather than stand in the east stand? Does it deter people from travelling to away matches when they know they will be stood (or sat) behind the sticks? The east stand hasn't sold out every match. I remember a number of ames (including the wigan play off game I think) where your club were advertising availability of tickets right up to kick off.
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| Its nice to see ROVERS east stand extension has attracted nearly five pages of jealously on the Hull fc board to date.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Do you honestly believe that there are hordes of fans who have not been attending games in your best season for 25 years just because they have to sit in a seat at one end rather than stand in the east stand? Does it deter people from travelling to away matches when they know they will be stood (or sat) behind the sticks? The east stand hasn't sold out every match. I remember a number of ames (including the wigan play off game I think) where your club were advertising availability of tickets right up to kick off.'"
No. I'm not really seeing how you could think I might from my previous post. I might make the effort to travel up a couple more times, if I can be certain of getting a ticket to watch with friends. I'm quite happy with my obstructed view from the back of the West stand, but I can understand why others might not be. A bit of spare capacity and choice will be nice for the fans.
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| Quote ="Bertie"Its nice to see ROVERS east stand extension has attracted nearly five pages of jealously on the Hull fc board to date.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"icon_eek.gif Jealous of what exactly
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THE CHAIRMAN, THE COACH, THE LEAGUE POSITION, THE RECENT DERBY RESULTS.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"No. I'm not really seeing how you could think I might from my previous post. I might make the effort to travel up a couple more times, if I can be certain of getting a ticket to watch with friends. I'm quite happy with my obstructed view from the back of the West stand, but I can understand why others might not be. A bit of spare capacity and choice will be nice for the fans.'"
It's not going to add the 2000 that the nudger claims though is it?
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| Quote ="rovers r red"THE CHAIRMAN, THE COACH, THE LEAGUE POSITION, THE RECENT DERBY RESULTS.'"
chairman - no way
coach - I'd swap him for agar today
league position - anything but 1st is irrelevant really
recent derby results - aint really that bothered. It's only a game
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"chairman - no way
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league position - anything but 1st is irrelevant really
recent derby results - aint really that bothered. It's only a game'"
Why are you so keen to get shot of Agar, if you are not really bothered by results? Do you just not like the cut of his jib or something? If everything but 1st is irrelevant - why not stick with him, because I can't see anybody dragging you from 12th to 1st this year. It is only a game afterall and not worth someone losing their livelihood over, surely.
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| Could it be that FC fans are slighty jealous of a stand that will now hold over 5500 standing?. A stand that gives the best atmosphere of any ground? A ground that Sky and Phil Clarke love to come to for the old School atmosphere?
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Could it be that FC fans are slighty jealous of a stand that will now hold over 5500 standing?. A stand that gives the best atmosphere of any ground? A ground that Sky and Phil Clarke love to come to for the old School atmosphere?
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And a ground where we can choose our fixture days ( sky permitting).
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"chairman - no way
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league position - anything but 1st is irrelevant really unless we come 4th in which case it's paramount
recent derby results - aint really that bothered for the time being. It's only a game until we achieve our 8 easy points'"
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| Quote ="rovers r red"THE CHAIRMAN, THE COACH, THE LEAGUE POSITION, THE RECENT DERBY RESULTS.'"
You are having a laugh...why would we want him, he has accumalted over 3 million pound of debt
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Could it be that FC fans are slighty jealous of a stand that will now hold over 5500 standing?. A stand that gives the best atmosphere of any ground? A ground that Sky and Phil Clarke love to come to for the old School atmosphere?
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Speaking for myself Blakey,the answer to your first question is no.
Whilst I agree 5500 fans standing can create a great atmosphere,I do prefer now,to sit down.
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| Quote ="insider knowledge"Back to topic, despite the Generals optimism on crowd increases, I have been watching Rovers for over 35 years and we have never regularly got over 9000 average crowds never mind 10,000. I am concerned that despite a successful 2009 we averaged under 9,000 average crowds. I just don't think there are any more fans out there who will regularly attend. The extension is great news for existing fans but expecting that to balance the books is short sighted and folly. We need to budget within our means or suffer the consequences. If this means spending less on players salaries, so be it. Better to be a SL also rans long term than a short lived success going bust. '"
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its been established that the last 3 years crowds are already exceeding the 80's glory years. A similar story exists across the city. The game is more popular (at least at club level) than 25 years ago. I think for anyone to put a ceiling on Rovers crowd potential based on history is ignoring the bigger picture.
Rovers can easily go beyond 10,000 average if the facilities (including a decent view) improve, and the side remain competitive on the pitch. Therein lies the balancing act.
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| i could be wrong,but havent i read that your average gate went down slightly last season.
whilst i'm glad ur getting the extension some of ur loyal fans deserve,i do think u ought to provide cover on the away end.its not the 1950s is it,and clubs need to realise you cant treat fans(home or away) like cattle anymore.
the really shameful thing is that both clubs are getting their projects part funded by the health authority.i know the medical facilities will benefit the hull public,but surely given the cash coming into both clubs from gate £,merchandising,sky & sponsorship, they should be self sufficient.(and idealy would be donating cash to the health authority not the other way around)
if all rugby clubs are struggling,is the salary cap too high?
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| Quote ="Eddie Marks"i could be wrong,but havent i read that your average gate went down slightly last season.
whilst i'm glad ur getting the extension some of ur loyal fans deserve,i do think u ought to provide cover on the away end.its not the 1950s is it,and clubs need to realise you cant treat fans(home or away) like cattle anymore.'"
Yes, by a massive 0.31% Thats equivalent to one of the Salford taxi's breaking down on the M62 and missing the game.
Speaking of covering away ends up, I agree, and would welcome Leeds, Wakefield, Catalans & Bradfrod also offering the away fans a roof.
Given the average away following at Rovers is about 400, I think the club have got their priorities about right.
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