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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"Trouble is, a winning team these days (in a league with a salary cap) contains the vital ingredient of having a fruitful academy.
There's no fruit at Rovers. Just a few cabbages with Australian accents.'"
It would appear the 2014 Under 19's table shows HKR academy at this level finished on exactly the same number of points as HFC's youth, and IIRC HKR under 16 academy only lost one game all season so I assume the fruit tree appears as fruitless at the KC.
Be interested to know whether HKR (or indeed any S.L. club) have broken any rules regards signings of overseas players?
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| Anyway, back to Campese. I hope he continues his foundation work whilst over in the UK. He seems like a good bloke (for a convict).
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"The 16 games you got from Dykes in 2008 would be a fair return, just about. Hopefully with Kelly in the squad we'll be less reliant on TC than you were on AD.
Reading the Canberra forum, and if we're looking for a Hull FC equivalent, as we inevitably must, I was minded more of some Hull fans' attitude to Richard Horne over the last few years - with less diplomatic language, admittedly.
Stan mentions that it increases the risk of us carrying an injured half. On the flipside, it reduces the risk of that being hugely damaging to our chances.
It has positive knock-ons too - Blair becomes more of an option in the centres, in turn meaning that Horne should focus completely on being a second-row.
Boudebza for Hodgson is (prospectively) a major trade-down in an important position, but it's hard to maintain standards across the board in this market. Hull haven't really directly replaced Heremaia (Cunningham is still promising rather than proven, I think it is fair to say) and it's hard to find any quality of depth at the moment, particularly at hooker it seems.'"
When Dykes played he went well for Hull. It was he that took us to Wembley in 2008. I think Peter Sharps departure didn't help Dykes who, IMO was rushed back a couple of times and hastened the end of his time.
The comparisons are there between Campese and Dykes. Looking for a new challenge, injury record not good, hoping to take the place of a HB which was the heat beat of the team (Dobson was not really replaced by Keating as Matt Head was not the replacement for Paul Cooke).
Regarding your comment Re Heremaia, Id expect to see Jordon Rankin used as a 9 interchange next season at some point.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"
Regarding your comment Re Heremaia, Id expect to see Jordon Rankin used as a 9 interchange next season at some point.'"
I hope so, the big guys will have fun running at him all day long.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I hope so, the big guys will have fun running at him all day long.'"
Yup, the kid should be nowhere near the middle.
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| Quote ="Structured"It would appear the 2014 Under 19's table shows HKR academy at this level finished on exactly the same number of points as HFC's youth, and IIRC HKR under 16 academy only lost one game all season so I assume the fruit tree appears as fruitless at the KC.
Be interested to know whether HKR (or indeed any S.L. club) have broken any rules regards signings of overseas players?'"
its a shame none of them will manage to break through due to being behind overseas players, then being lost to RL due to being disillusioned with the game.
notice hull kr didnt have a player in the England academy game yesterday, Hull FC had 3, Huddersfield had 2.
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| Quote ="brearley84"its a shame none of them will manage to break through due to being behind overseas players, then being lost to RL due to being disillusioned with the game.
notice hull kr didnt have a player in the England academy game yesterday, Hull FC had 3, Huddersfield had 2.'"
We have more hull born players in our squad than you have Huddersfield born players in yours but who cares
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| Quote ="brearley84"its a shame none of them will manage to break through due to being behind overseas players, then being lost to RL due to being disillusioned with the game.
notice hull kr didnt have a player in the England academy game yesterday, Hull FC had 3, Huddersfield had 2.'"
Only 2 more than HKA? That's a poor return, your club should be ashamed apparently.
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| Quote ="Structured"It would appear the 2014 Under 19's table shows HKR academy at this level finished on exactly the same number of points as HFC's youth, and IIRC HKR under 16 academy only lost one game all season so I assume the fruit tree appears as fruitless at the KC.
Be interested to know whether HKR (or indeed any S.L. club) have broken any rules regards signings of overseas players?'"
Absolutely laughable comparison, the Hull FC u19's last year was full of 17 year olds.
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| Having tried to drag this thread back on topic this morning, I appear to have failed.
Shall we re-title it "Hull attract all the best kids" and then at least we can crack a few Savile jokes.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Having tried to drag this thread back on topic this morning, I appear to have failed.
Shall we re-title it "Hull attract all the best kids" and then at least we can crack a few Savile jokes.'"
You worried that Campese, and Kelly, will only have 3-5 weeks preseason in them?
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| Quote ="SirStan"Anyway, back to Campese. I hope he continues his foundation work whilst over in the UK. He seems like a good bloke (for a convict).'" As someone with many convicts (or true patriots as William Wentworth called them) in my ancestral line, I'd like to make it clear that about 2 million people with names like Campese came to Australia in what is called the "post WW II migration wave", and many settled in south west NSW in towns like Quenbeyan. I don't know anything about his roots aside from his name and location, but I'd be willing to bet he has no convict in him.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Absolutely laughable comparison, the Hull FC u19's last year was full of 17 year olds.'"
So, 17 year olds aren't under 19 now?
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| Quote ="roversmad"So, 17 year olds aren't under 19 now?'"
Oh great, you're back. Another occasion you've spectacularly missed the point, well done.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Oh great, you're back. Another occasion you've spectacularly missed the point, well done.'"
You had a point? I didnt realise there was any point to you at all. You learn something new everyday I suppose.
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| Quote ="roversmad"You had a point? I didnt realise there was any point to you at all. You learn something new everyday I suppose.'"
Not in your case. Perhaps you hadn't noticed that even Rovers fans on here think you're an embarrassment.
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| Quote ="roversmad"You had a point? I didnt realise there was any point to you at all. You learn something new everyday I suppose.'"
Was this supposed to be ironic?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I hope so, the big guys will have fun running at him all day long.'"
Hodgson
Houghton
Burrow
Aiton
Roby
Highem
There are 6 players in the hooking position who are smaller then Rankin and have no problem with the big guys.
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| Quote ="*1865*"You worried that Campese, and Kelly, will only have 3-5 weeks preseason in them?'"
Not worried about that in the slightest. Far more concerned that Campese is utter rubbish anyway, apparently
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Not in your case. Perhaps you hadn't noticed that even Rovers fans on here think you're an embarrassment.'"
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| Quote ="Edith"Was this supposed to be ironic?'"
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| this is getting worse than the banter page on facebook were a moron fc fan put a mock wheelchair with campese number on it and his name.. at the end of the day we all know the guy has had injuries and his best days are behind him.. but maybe just maybe he may just want to prove a point that even he can cut it in super league and to be honest super league is a lot slower than nrl, and the refs spoil it due to constant blowing for crossing extra.. but if his kicking game is still there it should be better than what dobbo had and 120% better than keating.. and this guy can defend so all round it is a risk worth taking i think
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| Are those statistics accurate or made up?
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| Quote ="rebelrobin"this is getting worse than the banter page on facebook were a moron fc fan put a mock wheelchair with campese number on it and his name.. at the end of the day we all know the guy has had injuries and his best days are behind him.. but maybe just maybe he may just want to prove a point that even he can cut it in super league and to be honest super league is a lot slower than nrl, and the refs spoil it due to constant blowing for crossing extra.. but if his kicking game is still there it should be better than what dobbo had and 120% better than keating.. and this guy can defend so all round it is a risk worth taking i think'"
was a class player. One year deal to me is not much of a risk. Think he is a good addition. Think you have made some great signings, I would only worry over the amount of players coming in and how long they take to gel.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"was a class player. One year deal to me is not much of a risk. Think he is a good addition. Think you have made some great signings, I would only worry over the amount of players coming in and how long they take to gel.'"
Excellent post with which I agree 100%.
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