Quote ="Mrs Barista"No it wasn't. www.hullkr.co.uk/_clientdocs/Clu ... 8%20LR.pdf "Season pass frozen at 2008 discount prices for 2010 and 2011" '" Ouch that hurts a tad. Me=

Quote ="Mrs Barista"No it wasn't. www.hullkr.co.uk/_clientdocs/Clu ... 8%20LR.pdf "Season pass frozen at 2008 discount prices for 2010 and 2011" '" Ouch that hurts a tad. Me=

Suppose the way to look at it is, are Rovers fans generally happy with the value they get for the money they pay out, on the whole the answer is yes. Are FC fans happy with the value they get, not judging by a lot of the not buying another pass brigade on here.

Simply summarised. £485 to watch entertaining rugby or £455 to watch utter durge, its a no brainer..

Still I suppose you can sit there happily unentertained and applaud the profit.

Or the other way to look at it is that we're talking about 2010 and 2011 prices here. 2011 hasn't started yet so you can't say what level of entertainment or results that will bring. What we do know,however, is that FC won more home games last season than Rovers, which is really what you buy your pass for. Chuck in a far nicer stadium and an extra 13 weeks to get a discounted price and, well, I think we compare reasonably, particularly when you think on this basis a pass in the South Stand at the KC is cheaper than a pass in the Golf Stand at Craven Park.

Winning isn't the same as being entertained, grinding teams out isn't entertaining, scraping wins with a one up drive game plan isn't entertaining. FC are the Cliff Thorburn of rugby league, maybe effective at times but would you really want to have to sit and watch it week in week out.

My best mate is an ardent FC fan and even he'll admit he doesn't look forward to watching them. Just look on your own board and see how many are disillusioned with the brand of rugby your lot turn out.

You can spin it all you like but even you don't believe you are more entertaining than us.

What do you get when you mix black and white... Grey enough said.

another thread into point scoring drivel, well done again mrs B.

The top and bottom of it is that if FC season passes in the gold plated uber mega best seats the world has ever known were £5 and Rovers was £300 i still know i would NOT be heading to the KFC. You support who you support regardless. I'm sure its the same if rolls were reversed, you wouldn't uy a rovers pass at a 5er. Even being the accountant you are and all your usual calculations etc you still wouldn't buy a rovers pass so price, value for money etc is pretty irrelevant. its not gonna make people change clubs to save 15 quid over 2 seasons or whatever calculation you made



a shameful typo

Think you need to edit that or have you crossed the divide..

Hmm, a compelling argument, thinking about a weekend leisure activity in terms of value for money and all things related to Monday to Friday work. I think I may have to reconsider where my loyalties lie next season, after all, thirty Queens over the course of eight months and thirteen games is an awful lot to contemplate...



That's it! phleastyler, our glorious Kim Jong-Il like leader has defected, I'm gone...

I'm not having that. GML implied my calculations were invalid. And I have a right of reply. If you can show me any miscalculations, I'll hold my hand up and admit I'm wrong, but since this hasn't happened we'll assume I'm right until proven otherwise.

I'm not denying people are moaning about the quality of rugby at FC. But you conveniently forget that not so long ago there were quite a few on here complaining Rovers style was predictable and one-dimensional, and the performance away vs Crusaders, for example, was simply glossed over. On the FC forum that would have been slated for 38 pages. Of course no one will be swayed between clubs by this price comparison. But it does illustrate that in terms of facilities provided like cover from the elements and seating,and from a home win ratio perspective, FC are favourably priced vs Rovers. Unless, as mentioned, someone can point out where the calculations are inaccurate.

In your spin you forgot to add the money off the shirts, the half price derby tickets, the discounted play off tickets, the points on the teamcard and the other benefits on offer. You also forgot to add of the thousands who chose to join the scheme who realised and continue to benefit from Club Rovers.

Everyone had the choice to join or not to join, a bit like the hull fans have the choice to pay by debit card i suppose.

Quote ="Mrs Barista"There's no spin required. For the RM stand over 2 years a Club Rovers member pays £60 +£5 renewal + £210 + £210 = £485 A non Club Rovers fan pays £260 + £247 = £507 An FC fan in most expensive reserved seats pays £225 + £230 = £455 The FC fan can still get this discounted price on 31st December (or even into first week in January if this year's extension is repeated) You can't claim the Club Rovers frozen price unless you've paid the £65, can you? If you can point out where I've overstated what an adult Club Rovers member in the RM stand has paid over 2 years, why not share it?'" [size=200She's Obsessed........[/size viewtopic.php?f=2&t=473946&start=0 Quote ="Chorlton RL"Where did you get this info?'" Quote ="Mrs Barista"Companies House - you can download them for £1 each.'" £12 to get a look at OTHER clubs accounts.... And she says we waste our money,.... [url=http://www.smileyhut.com[/url

Quote ="Mrs Barista"There's no spin required. For the RM stand over 2 years a Club Rovers member pays £60 +£5 renewal + £210 + £210 = £485 A non Club Rovers fan pays £260 + £247 = £507 An FC fan in most expensive reserved seats pays £225 + £230 = £455 The FC fan can still get this discounted price on 31st December (or even into first week in January if this year's extension is repeated) You can't claim the Club Rovers frozen price unless you've paid the £65, can you? If you can point out where I've overstated what an adult Club Rovers member in the RM stand has paid over 2 years, why not share it?'" [size=200She's Obsessed........[/size viewtopic.php?f=2&t=473946&start=0 Quote ="Chorlton RL"Where did you get this info?'" Quote ="Mrs Barista"Companies House - you can download them for £1 each.'" £12 to get a look at OTHER clubs accounts.... And she says we waste our money,.... [url=http://www.smileyhut.com[/url

The fact the KC is much bigger is the major determinant of the pricing policies, IMO. To sell season tickets there has to be bigger differential between season passes and pay on the day at the KC. The best bits of Craven Park are at a premium and pay on the day for the less attractive bits of the ground has to be more competively priced.

What is the gap between season ticket price match and single game prices for the 2 clubs? My assumption is it'll be much bigger for Hull FC, which just reflects supply and demand rather than moral superiority at either club. If and when Rovers build the shiny new North Stand i'd expect it to converge at least a bit.

You forgot -£10 for being an RSG member



There's also the offer for a JR mum and only had to pay £30 + £5 + £147 + £147 = £329 for a seat in the RM stand

The one dimensional play was an issue, the coach noticed it and rectified the situation, the crusaders result wasn't glossed over. It was taken in context, sonmething that as an FC fan may need to be explained to you.

We were in 7th no matter what, Crusaders needed the result for play off rugby. We had a play off game the week after that was what the team would be concentrating on. They did, we went on and won it so in the big picture the coach was right in his tactics. Nothing to moan about therfore no one moaned. No carpet brushing necessary.. HTH..

Just another dull grey breeze block stadium!

This flying dentist isn't part of the Israeli mafia....its far worse, he's part of Rules hitman squad

Aye...one where every-one keeps dry whilst watching a game, one which fits all the home and away fans in, and lets not forget all the toilets each one has toilet paper

Actually, credit where credits due. You keep those facilities in sparkling condition, Ms. bitch. Well done.

I think it's credit to the cleaning staff the way they spruce things up in that 20 minute period between the home fans and the away fans leaving.

To qualify for the money off shirts, you had to want a shirt and to pay an extra £35. To qualify for the derby tickets, you had to want to go to the KC and pay an extra £12. The point is that whether or not you choose to participate in these additional activities, the amounts quoted are the [uminimum[/u cash any adult Club Rovers member has to pay for a season pass. I know it's difficult for you to understand, but there we are.

Another irrelevant point. I'm not arguing that people have participated in the scheme as Rovers have 6,900 passholders (although some felt they were over a barrel to join Club Rovers to start with in order to retain their seat); joining Club Rovers as shown means cheaper passes than not being a member. However, even for Club Rovers members this still represents, for the RM stand example, an increase in real cash terms of £65 over 2 years, or +15.5% vs 2008, and 6.6% more than you pay for reserved seating at the KC.


Indeed. We also have the choice not to pay a penny until 31st December and still get the full discount.

Im kept very dry at home games thanks.

Once again, not really a problem, even with you guys being our very close neighbours, you struggle to fill the away end.

Im assuming you have mentioned this point because you have had a problem with no toilet paper at CP, well Im surprised that would be a problem for you black and whites

For a supposed accountant Mrs B you seem to find the concept of season passes a little difficult. As EHR has already posted a Rovers club JR mum, for instance obtained a seat in the RM stand less than your supposed minimum, so bang goes your argument there.

You are correct in the assumption that fans had the choice or not of joining the scheme which i suppose is a decent indication that a good percentage saw the discounted shirts, half price derby tickets and discounted play off tickets etc, etc for starters as offereing value for money considering the take up of members.

Perhaps it's better you try to placate your own supporters moans and gripes at being charged for using a debit card, a concept i suggest, that not even yourself or the other spinmaster Wilf can justify.

Fair enough on the RSG mums. I'm sure that was a hefty proportion of the 6,900 passholders.
The £2 debitcard charge is stupid. But at least those debit card devotees have until 31st December to arrange a cash or cheque or postal order payment method instead. This point of much more generous payment periods seems one you are rather keen to gloss over.

Your discount period is closer to Christmas the ours. As Rovers passes came out earlier are we not as supporters in a stronger position. We have our passes paid up well in advance of Christmas therfore not an added expense that people don't need around that time of year. The charge of paying by direct debit is scandelous. Hull won't be charged anything for debit card payments only on credit card payments surely.

So FC, by allowing their supporters cash in the bank for an additional 13 weeks and 3 or 4 extra month end pay cheques (last year the discount window was extended to the first week in January to allow for this), are actively disadvantaging them? Perhaps you should suggest Rovers do their fans a favour and launch season passes for 2012 at Easter 2011 to they can pay for them before the expense of the the summer holidays.



There is a charge to retailers for use of debit and credit cards, but it depends on the volume of transactions that retailer makes. Credit card charges are a % of the transaction value but debit cards are a fixed fee per transaction. Last place I worked it was 60p per transaction but that's going back a few years.