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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"No disrespect, as clearly what Morgan's done so far has been excellent, but his comment on promoting from within is not something he has a choice about. 2011 overseas quota is 5 and you need at least 8 homgrown players in the squad, so if he doesn't start shifting the balance in 2010 there's a big gap to bridge in 2011. How many overseas players would he be able to recruit anyway with the foreign players you've already got contracted for 2010?
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I never mentioned recruiting any foreign players, after all we didn't for 2009. IIRC we've already got the 7 homegrown players in the squad that are required for 2010, so JM [idoes[/i have a choice. Most professional clubs will be clued up on the rules and act accordingly don't you think? ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="phil webbo"So your right, there is a big gap to bridge, with only Dobbo on the quota, we still have 4 overseas quota spots to fill
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![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) Fox will be your token British player in the 17.
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| At this moment in time i could not be happier! on paper we have had one of the worst set of injuries to key players in S.L, yet this years squad is so strong it covers. Look at Welham, IAnson Lovegrove and NEtherton, not many thought they would play as many games as they have.
Testerment to Justins selection and recruitement policies.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"icon_lol.gif Fox will be your token British player in the 17.'"
True as, Cookie, I'anson, Welham, Briscoe, Mills, Esders, Mariano, Watts, Colburn, Murrell, Fozzard, Netherton, Walker, Wheeldon, Spaven, Cockayne, and with our token Brit Fox, there's our 17 ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Not a bad team really
FB = Briscoe.
WG = Fox.
WG =Colbon
CR = Walker
CR = Welham
SH = I'Anson
SO = Cooke
LF = Murrell
SR = Netherton
SR = Esders
H = Cockayne
FR = Fozzard
FR = Wheeldon
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Mills
Spaven
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Mariano
All British and no one out of position ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="phil webbo"True as, Cookie, I'anson, Welham, Briscoe, Mills, Esders, Mariano, Watts, Colburn, Murrell, Fozzard, Netherton, Walker, Wheeldon, Spaven, Cockayne, and with our token Brit Fox, there's our 17
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Mariano, Spaven, Esders and Watts - how many first team games gave they had between them this year?
Fozzard will have retired by 2011 and Walker,Cooke and Mills will be released at the end of 2010 if not before.
FC have a full British team (except Cusack) in their 17 tonight, as opposed to claiming one on paper. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="phil webbo"Not a bad team really
FB = Briscoe.
WG = Fox.
WG =Colbon
CR = Walker
CR = Welham
SH = I'Anson
SO = Cooke
LF = Murrell
SR = Netherton
SR = Esders
H = Cockayne
FR = Fozzard
FR = Wheeldon
Bench.
Mills
Spaven
Watts
Mariano
All British and no one out of position
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Anyone for another derby victory ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Mariano, Spaven, Esders and Watts - how many first team games gave they had between them this year?
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Fozzard will have retired by 2011 and Walker,Cooke and Mills will be released at the end of 2010 if not before.
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FC have a full British team (except Cusack) in their 17 tonight, as opposed to claiming one on paper.
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We were told in by you in 2007 that it would affect us for the 2008 season.
We were told by you in 2008 that it would affect us for the 2009 season.
I know with your pathetic club and pathetic team, you have to clutch at every straw available, but it's time to wake up and smell the coffee - we have some excellent youngsters coming through the ranks (much better than the kebab eaters in your academy). Added to the fact we are only one youngster off the target anyway.
Like I say, wake up and smell the coffee...
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| Quote ="RoversTrace"Anyone for another derby victory
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Agree.
We could field a team full of British players and still beat that shower of that got beat by Wire tonight.
Mrs Barista lives in dreamland...
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"
FC have a full British team (except Cusack) in their 17 tonight, as opposed to claiming one on paper.
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If thats how your British team plays can i suggest you try and buy a few more over the hill Aussies then ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Bandito"Except I'Anson classes hkmself as a 6 and Cockayne a full back dont they?
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Thorman classes himself a 7, your point is?
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| Quote ="Big Spender"If thats how your British team plays can i suggest you try and buy a few more over the hill Aussies then
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Or how about all other clubs tell the Aussies to feck off back and let the RFL grown some balls and create a league where only 1 overseas player is allowed?
That way every Super League side will have teams like the one Hull put out or the one Phil Webbo listed above and the English kids will finally get a chance instead of having to play second fiddle to players who cannot get a game in their homeland.
The quicker the RFL do that the better. There are kids coming through and playing in the Championship and Service area level who with the right coaching can become as good as Joe Westerman, Rob Burrow, Scott Murrell etc, but overseas players are keeping them out.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"Thorman classes himself a 7, your point is?'"
And he plays at 7, I think you ought to have thought through your reply ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Bandito"And he plays at 7, I think you ought to have thought through your reply
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I find that a stretch of the imagination. I also think BC & CI would be classed by JM rather than themselves.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"I find that a stretch of the imagination. I also think BC & CI would be classed by JM rather than themselves.'"
The reason Ben Cockayne has been played elsewhere is because he is not good enough to oust Shaun Briscoe.
The reason Chaz I'Anson is not playing is because he is not good enough to oust Paul Cooke. He is not a 7. You do realise that not many 5/8's can play effectively over a period of time at 7 dont you?
Ben Cockayne has played full back for every club he has ever played for, including 2 full seasons for Hull KR.
It does not matter how you dress it up, that is his position, he may have tried to adapt his game, some would say pretty well, but is he really a Hooker?
You have used that to suit your argument that Rovers could field an English side worthy of SL.
I'Anson is a different argument altogether ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Bandito"The reason Ben Cockayne has been played elsewhere is because he is not good enough to oust Shaun Briscoe.
The reason Chaz I'Anson is not playing is because he is not good enough to oust Paul Cooke. He is not a 7. You do realise that not many 5/8's can play effectively over a period of time at 7 dont you?
Ben Cockayne has played full back for every club he has ever played for, including 2 full seasons for Hull KR.
It does not matter how you dress it up, that is his position, he may have tried to adapt his game, some would say pretty well, but is he really a Hooker?
You have used that to suit your argument that Rovers could field an English side worthy of SL.
I'Anson is a different argument altogether
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You'll be telling us Lovegrove is a centre next ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="Big Spender"You'll be telling us Lovegrove is a centre next
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I dont think anyone has worked out what he is yet
I think he is a lucky boy that he has a dispensation ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Bandito"The reason Ben Cockayne has been played elsewhere is because he is not good enough to oust Shaun Briscoe.
The reason Chaz I'Anson is not playing is because he is not good enough to oust Paul Cooke. He is not a 7. You do realise that not many 5/8's can play effectively over a period of time at 7 dont you?
Ben Cockayne has played full back for every club he has ever played for, including 2 full seasons for Hull KR.
It does not matter how you dress it up, that is his position, he may have tried to adapt his game, some would say pretty well, but is he really a Hooker?
You have used that to suit your argument that Rovers could field an English side worthy of SL.
I'Anson is a different argument altogether
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TBF I havn't, if you read all the posts I havn't said that once.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"TBF I havn't, if you read all the posts I havn't said that once.'"
Yes sorry, my bad.
You said "All British and no one out of position"
I apologise, now, where were we before you wanted to pick me up on mistaking the workd British for English
You claimed there were no players out of position, I'Anson struggles to play 5/8 so how can he be classed as not out of position at 7? ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Bandito"Yes sorry, my bad.
You said "All British and no one out of position"
I apologise, now, where were we before you wanted to pick me up on mistaking the workd British for English
You claimed there were no players out of position, I'Anson struggles to play 5/8 so how can he be classed as not out of position at 7?
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OK Slightly out of position
I would have said that that team could hold their own in the Championship 1, but after the Sheffield game, not so sure now.
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| Quote ="phil webbo"OK Slightly out of position
I would have said that that team could hold their own in the Championship 1, but after the Sheffield game, not so sure now.'"
That side would do well, probably finish top 3 if not win it.
Sheffield are dog todd having seen 3 dvd's of them this season. They must have raised their games considerably!!
I cant wait for the day, if it ever comes, that a Rovers line up looks like that and not half full of Aussies and Kiwi's
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| Quote ="Bandito"Or how about all other clubs tell the Aussies to feck off back and let the RFL grown some balls and create a league where only 1 overseas player is allowed?
That way every Super League side will have teams like the one Hull put out or the one Phil Webbo listed above and the English kids will finally get a chance instead of having to play second fiddle to players who cannot get a game in their homeland.
The quicker the RFL do that the better. There are kids coming through and playing in the Championship and Service area level who with the right coaching can become as good as Joe Westerman, Rob Burrow, Scott Murrell etc, but overseas players are keeping them out.'"
Amen to that brother.
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