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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I don't think people do. How many world class players of any sport have gone on to be world class coaches?'"
Roger Millward, Mal Reilly and Dave Harrison to name just 3.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Roger Millward, Mal Reilly and Dave Harrison to name just 3.'"
bryan robson bobby charlton bobby moore all terrible coaches but world class players
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I don't think people do. How many world class players of any sport have gone on to be world class coaches?'"
I'd say a disproportionately high % do. Remember the number of world class players is small relative to non-world class.
Maybe it is to do with opportunity though. Ferguson had to work his way up from East Stirling, similar to most, while Dalglish got his start at dominant Liverpool.
I'd say better players tend to start higher up the ladder, whether they are more likely to climb is difficult to judge. Remember that low-profile players that [ifail[/i as managers (generally at lower profile clubs) tend to go unnoticed or unremembered. Whereas the disasters like Tony Adams (high profile, rather than world class I know), are played out in full public view.
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| Quote ="barham red"Really, I thought with Gentle being interviewed for Salford, Cas and if we believe the Dullers he talked to Hudge then naturally FC were his 4th choice.'"
C`mon ,I know you are on a wind up,but being interviewed by four clubs means he can`t be in four places at once.Law of physics.
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| Interview with Kevin Moore in hull daily mail Tom, now either he hasn't got the job or there will be an announcement this evening by the club to say he has got the job.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Wiki says he was a midfielder
[urlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mourinho[/url
Just 'cos he never made it to the top doesn't mean he doesn't understand the game.'"
thats the point i was making in the first place the best coaches are lesser known players usually
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| Quote ="barton baird"C`mon ,I know you are on a wind up,but being interviewed by four clubs means he can`t be in four places at once.Law of physics.'"
You can. You just have to have the knack of folding space.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Thats what they'll have you believe
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Well [iyou[/i had us believe that Gentle was going to Wigan
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| All this talk of psychometric testing makes me think that the board really know what traits in a coach they don't want after their experiences with justin
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Well [iyou[/i had us believe that Gentle was going to Wigan
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Well [iyou[/i had us believe that Gentle was going to Wigan
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| Are we holding our breath or has everyone clocked off for the off season?
I should start that Androids and Aliens RPG thread.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Are we holding our breath or has everyone clocked off for the off season?
I should start that Androids and Aliens RPG thread.'"
I have no idea what that is or how it works, but I'll have a pop.
Not quite the off season though.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"I have no idea what that is or how it works, but I'll have a pop.
Not quite the off season though.'"
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| Is it me or is naming our new coach becoming a bit of a long drawn out affair!! I know they need to take their time over this but Christ, they've been out there for over a week and we still don't know who it is. I do get fustrated the way information comes out of craven park at a snails pace. Please name him and let's get new players at the club and stop fannying around!!!
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"Is it me or is naming our new coach becoming a bit of a long drawn out affair!! I know they need to take their time over this but Christ, they've been out there for over a week and we still don't know who it is. I do get fustrated the way information comes out of craven park at a snails pace. Please name him and let's get new players at the club and stop fannying around!!!'"
Double check visa eligibility maybe? Though you'd think it'd be worth doing that before interviews.
Perhaps the board want to be back here to make the announcement, to manage the media and make a splash out of it.
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| Thought Hudge and co were travelling back on Friday, by which time we would know who it was to be. Well its now Friday in Sydney
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Double check visa eligibility maybe? Though you'd think it'd be worth doing that before interviews.
Perhaps the board want to be back here to make the announcement, to manage the media and make a splash out of it.'"
That's way too organised for Mike Smith!! But you could be right, just so bloody fustrating. Seems like other clubs are getting their house in order for next season and we just fart and follow through as usual.
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| Quote ="Hessle rover"That's way too organised for Mike Smith!! But you could be right, just so bloody fustrating. Seems like other clubs are getting their house in order for next season and we just fart and follow through as usual.'"
I admit I'm impatient too!
A good decision is better than a quick one though. And tbf, I strongly suspect the decision has been made, just not the announcement.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I admit I'm impatient too!
A good decision is better than a quick one though. And tbf, I strongly suspect the decision has been made, just not the announcement.'"
They might be going through the new coaches 'shopping list'
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| Nope its the Singapore Grand Prix this weekend the want a stop over on the way back
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| Quote ="Hull-Neutral"Who knows how Peter Gentle will turn out?
For every Michael Maguire, there is a Dean Lance or John Harvey.
All I can say is that Gentle has been the beneficiary of some very astute PR from his UK representative David Howes (who had never even heard of Gentle six months ago!). Howesy did a very good job of circulating his client's name in revered tones when, by all accounts, he is not held in particularly high regard in his homeland!
Howes did particularly well to squeeze plenty of mileage out of Gentle being 'Australia's assistant coach'. The reality is that Tim Sheens simply turned to his trusty lieutenant when Royce Simmons stood down at short notice prior to last year's Four Nations. Gentle was actually one THREE assistants.
Darryl Powell and James Lowes are assistants to Steve McNamara. Does it really mean that much?
At Wests (who have largely underachieved in recent seasons), Gentle is regarded as a defensive coach. Prior to that, he was assistant coach at Cronulla during a dreadful two-year period in their history.
We know that he was interviewed for the Salford job earlier in the year but wasn't first choice. Kurt Wrigley was, only to turn the position down. Next we hear Matt Parish gets the gig when everyone was expecting Gentle. Was it really because 'Gentle couldn't committ to this year', or was that more Howes' spin?
Castleford interviewed Gentle for the coaching position weeks ago (along with Justin Morgan), but never actually went as far as offering him the job before Hull FC took the bait and swooped without interviewing any other candidate, just days after another of Howes' old muckers Shaun McRae landed up as Football Manager!
Has Howes simply exploited Adam Pearson's RL naivety? Or will it prove an inspired appointment?
Only time will tell.'"
Peter Gentle has an interview with Gwillam on SportsTalk tomorrow night; a pre-recorded one mind, it goes like this:-
GL: Hello Peter. So you've got the Hull FC job - tell me how that came about?
PG: Well me and Shaun Mcrea have the same agent, so Howesy had a word and that was it!
GL: Oh right, bye!
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| No doubt you'll be listening General.
Maybe Gollum will confirm who your new coach is, a 'Radio Humberside exclusive'.
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| Webster has left Hull, wonder what the chances are of a coach swap.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Webster has left Hull, wonder what the chances are of a coach swap.
Webster for Chester?'"
Has he? Not a complete surprise really. I have no idea what Chester's like, Wakey fans were in uproar at the thought of him going there.
I'd have Webster back, seems to have a brain but it needs to be whoever Sandercock wants.
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