He's English, you mean?

Past it more like

Old and reTIRED

If we can't keep Paea

then I think Carvell, Tuimavave and Walker would be a decent balance.
Netherton, Griffin and James Green competing for a place behind them, perhaps. Bit short on impact would be my one concern. I'd then hope we might be able to keep Mika to play at 13, with Lovegrove going to 12, if the rumour about Patterson wanting to go home were true. If we could sign Dale Ferguson, retain Horne and give more game time to Cox that would be pretty good business IMO.
I got a bit carried away, extrapolating from one rumour there, didn't I?
It'd be a risk, but nearly all signings are - they're unproven/too old/not good enough/too expensive, if it doesn't work out.

Also, Carvell will get a 2-year deal somewhere, I'm sure - if it is with us it is a sign of confidence about of future beyond 2014.
Mind you, with a real possibility of 2 clubs being relegated next season, there's a risk signing long-term with anybody except the top handful of clubs.

Would be a very good signing, can't see it myself though. If Paea stayed it would be a fantastic front row.

Apparently he is keen to come, but his wife rejected the move.

I can see why Carvell might be seen as a decent replacement if we lose Paea but overall I'd say no.

He's still a good player but too old (33 next season) and misses too many games. Most probably he'll only miss more still as time goes on.

Not only has Paea performed to a consistently high standard he hasn't missed a single game since he's been with us. Carvell is no replacement at all really.

Hopefully Paea will stay and then I suppose Carvell would be a decent replacement for O'Hara because then anytime he gets on the pitch would be a bonus. But really it's no good bemoaning injuries and then signing someone likely to add to the problem.

Equally though, we can't expect too many wins if we only sign youngsters. [iIf[/i Paea does leave, it'd be putting a lot of weight on ET's shoulders, not to sign another seasoned, decent quality prop. There's not many options better than Carvell on the ooc list, IMO. You could use the non-fed spot to try to find another player like Paea - but that player could always turn out to be the next Hutch Maiava instead.
Best case, Paea stays, clearly.

If his wife continues to much prefer that side of the Pennines, then Carvell would be an obvious choice for Salford I'd assume.

You mean like in 2011 when he payed 28 games and last season when he played 20?

How many so far this season?

The thing is 20 games out of a possible 35 isn't a great hit rate.

He's missed a few but then so have many of your squad too. Carvell has been very lucky with injuries over his career and his age is not a problem.

Don't knock him, he'd be a good signing for you lot.

I would have Carvell in a heartbeat.

24/35 if you're going to include CC.

Edit. (36)

You didn't answer the question

Carvell to you, micky p to us , sorted

Tough .

No I mean this year when age is now taking it's inevitable toll. When it catches up it catches up, is he 33 next year or 34?

Sometime probably sooner rather than later he'll be a very bad singing for someone. That's inevitable surely? He'll want at least a 2 year deal on top dollar so (from a Rovers point of view) I personally see that as bad business.

Not questioning his credentials as a player I've always rated him but think his playing style and body shape doesn't put him in the Steve Menzies longevity bracket.

If Warrington want to keep Morley & Brett Hodgson but not Carvell why is that? No prizes.

But hey, you want him you have him.

Mickey Paea has already gone apparently. When he came on in exiles match Eddie said he was 'Mickey Paea of the Catalan Dragons'.

Oh no, not the submission smilie






Could be worth a one year deal with the option of another in the club's favour. He was their best forward when we played them at the HJ this year.

Clearly we are on the same team and I do think you give intelligent analysis to all things Rovers.

I disagree on this though.

I think that the accepted wisdom that the nouveau riches of the NRL preclude the recruitment anything worth having from Australia is a false premise.

Sandercock alluded this this and such is the depth of talent in Australia and still only 16 teams, where do the rest go?

Very obviously where the next best pay is.

That's Super League...we don't need one last pay mega bucks Carvell.

Sandy replaced Green with Burns................Newton with Paterson...... I give COMPLETE ASSURANCE that Sandercock can and will find quality from Australia younger, better & cheaper than than Carvell.

As a general principle I'd be against signing Carvel mainly because of his age however if a deal could be structured where by it's appearance related, he may be worth a punt.

We're losing Paea, O'Hara and Beaumont next season and so we need to sign one or two experienced forwards otherwise the pressure on Tuimavave will be intense because we have a whole raft of forwards who are still only 20/21 years old even though it's great for the long term.

As far as general retention and recruitment goes I'd release Latus and O'Hara and re-sign all the rest to ensure as much continuity as possible.

I'd like us to sign Ferguson and I'm pretty confident we will reading between the lines of his comments in the press and his tweets etc.

We'd have a couple of quota spots free with the departures of Paterson and Paea and I'm sure Sandy will sign some quality replacements no problem.

Carvell wouldn't entertain a pay as you play deal, and you can't blame him for that. He will have plenty of offers on the table to chose from. We do need to bring in some experience and sometimes you just have to take a punt on fitness.

Rumour from the other board, worth a mention for his nickname, if nothing else - Waltzing Matt Hilder. A 31 year old 13 or 9 from (you guessed it) Newcastle Knights.

We need a bat signal type thing. In the shape of a snot block, perhaps.