I expected 2 points from our first 5 games, did anyone expect us to have more?

Totally agree GR, let's at least wait until after our next two games before we throw out the baby with the bath water!

World wide,there is only 30 top league coaching jobs available,16 NRL, 14(soon to be 12)SL. At any one time,only a small handful maybe looking at a new coach so any vacancy will result in a tonne of applicants.
Theres not much point targeting one man because i'm sure if the vacancy was posted they'd be a lot of people applying.Surely though a coach with a decent first team record is a must,or,with the likes of Radford,someone who's already well known to the club.
I'd like to see Mark Aston in Superleague.He's done good stuff at Sheffield for years and he was a vastly experienced top level player.

The usual know it all's are out in force yet again. Grow up & get real, Rovers are a mid table team with a mid table budget mid table crowd & a mid table ground & guess what we are around mid table. We have just played four of the teams that we all expected to contest the top five spots in the league & we have lost to them as most pundits thought we would. We have played well in short bursts & there is room for a vast improvement but thats what we get when you change half the side. As for those who say we deserve better on what do you base that asumption on? We as suporters deserve nothing there are not enough of us to make the club viable without large inputs of cash from TV & sponsors. We get what we pay for 13 home games a year plus a few cup ties if lucky. You either suport Rovers or you dont thats our choice nothing more nothing less, just stop whinging like a pub full of Aussies If you are not happy go & watch darts or somthing else. I follow the club because thats what I do, I follow League because I love it. Just leave the running of the club to the people who own & pay for it. & just give the players your suport instead of decrying every effort they make.

So as supporters,who support the running of the club year after year,we're not entitled to any views? Should we just turn up and cheer when it's obvious things aren't right?

Nice to know your aspirations are of mediocrity. I'd like more than that. I support the club that wants to better itself not 'know its place' and accept it. But crack on if that's what you want.

Out of the last 22 points on offer stretching back to last season,we have took 3.Plus a heavy playoff defeat.
Summats not right!

I've slept on last nights performance and see the usual polarised replies on here. Lets get one thing straight, my opinion of the coach's limitations are not based on a couple of games. We all know we faced a tough start, and points would be hard to come by. However, its the performances that tell far more than the current league table.
Defensively, we continue to be a soft touch, despite a clear recruitment strategy to solve this. We once again ship the regulation 30+ points. As a previous poster mentioned, our own try scoring was due to a weakness in Wigan's right edge. They fixed it at half time and we went scoreless due to a lack of game management, incapable of adjusting to another plan.
Every time Wigan got inside our 20 they scored. This is the story of Sandercock's reign.

I get the mid-table stuff, I have realistic aspirations for my club. I guarantee that Mr Hudgell has loftier ambitions than that.

You are dead right if I had my way I would sack him now, but what I can not understand is why we are only playing for 40 mins it just does not make sense are we not fit enough, if not why not and its time something was done about it so get rid now before its to late remember 2 teams go down not 1, we do not want to be 1 of them

I expected 1 win in the first five 2 with a bit of luck but it's the manner of the defeats getting hammered at home by lets face it an average cas side and then just folding in the second half against saints Leeds and Wigan that tels me there's something wrong with our fitness sandercock is running out of time and the way were playing the Bradford and wakey games aren't the dead cert wins people think

im wondering if Sandercock had them training at 8 or 10 past.

we played some good stuff first half, Kris Keating finally turned up, we still can't defend and were opened up out wide too easily though. second half was pretty much the norm, poor discipline cost us that game, back to back penalties will kill you and the problem is we love giving them. Kris Keating went missing again but was still far better than Burns.
im not sure what Shaun Wane said at half time to sort out Wigans defence but IMO we simply stopped asking questions of them.
Once a team gets a bit of momentum against us were doomed.

his substitutions leave a lot to be desired too IMO, Green and Cox have been great so far but hardly played last night. Costalot was none existent again.

I don't think Sandercock has it in him, but who else is out there.

oh yer and the pass was forward (just)

You look at the games individually and you're right. But looking at them as a group, you'd maybe hope for one positive surprise. Because we'll certainly have games where we drop points disappointingly. And also we've been well off the pace, playing well worryingly sporadically.

I thought there were one or two tiny green shoots last night. Then again Wigan's 17 didn't look much on paper.

We need to avoid 'slipping up' in the next two games both for the points and for confidence.

From an outsiders point of view I thought your team had a strong forward display (Weyman looked outstanding) and seemed to make yards up the middle but your defence out wide looks weak and there seemed to be a lack of consistent creativity from your pivots once you got near the Wigan try line second half. Didn't know Costigan was playing so must have been poor but you look on paper to have a real quality pack.

It would have been good to see Wigan get beat for a second week in a row but last 20 mins it went their way.

You have a strange notion of mid-table...

Rovers cannot afford to dilly dally for too long else we are back to the mid 90s...there are no escape routes aside from what happens on the field...

I am not satisfied with where we are but understand the reasons why,I have been pitching up to watch the club since February 1962 & have seen good bad & utter rubbish played home & away thats what I expect, some good some bad. It is not my right I don't deserve good or bad it just happens, its sport, thats the way it is. Mr Hudgel might have hight ambitions & I hope he gets them but it is not our right, there are 13 other teams trying thier best with varying results, We are where I expected us to be having lost by far the best half in the competition & rebuilding the team over the closed season. I also expect our side to finish around 7th or 8th. I just get fed up of the same old faces expecting instant results without the hard work & effort that is usualy required to advance & improve. The side that our coach has built will come good & it will come sooner if we all give them & the club our full suport.

It's my right after spending £230 quid on a pass, £45 on a shirt, £2.50 on matchday programmes, spending money behind a bar, getting to and from home and away matches to have my right of say whether you like it or not. And I've seen good and bad since my first game in 1979, the past doesn't bother right now, it's the now that I'm bothered about. And I hope your right about the team coming good, what this debate about is if Sandy is up to the job. He clearly isn't.

Neil Hudgell possibly.

I agree mate you have every right to expect better how long do we give the coach 2 more games 6 more or what

I want the board to act now! Whats the point of dragging things on longer than necessary. Tho, it's up to Hudge. The longer he stays and fester's at our club, the more money he will lose. I know a fair few fans who already stay away from home games because he's in charge.

Based on current form there is zero chance of you finishing below Catalans and London. Neither team look able to buy a win.

False. Sport isn't some kind of coin flip and sometimes your up and sometimes your down. There are many definable reasons for good and poor form. And you don't need me to tell you this. If fans want to discuss these factors, that is unquestionably their right. And yours for that matter.

I dont think the people who are saying Sandercock needs to go necessarily have ambitions that are beyond our team. For the past 3 years we have been a 7-9th placed team. Is it really unreasonable to have ambitions to break into the top 6 after that time, with the coach now having had the chance to build his own team, structures etc. Our defence has been awful for far too long and its going to keep costing us games, CS clearly cant fix it. Ok so we might beat the lower teams, finish 8th and lose the first playoff game but I cant see us achieving any more under our current coach. He has had enough time, change is needed for us to progress on the field to match our off field growth.

None of them have anything to do with how 'deserving of better' we perceive ourselves to be though. What we want or will accept is more relevant, but as long as the players and coaches are trying their best, we can't add wronged to disappointed.
Easy for me to say, in some respects I know! Going to see us vs Bradford next week though!

I think we all know we're not gonna win the grand final,we know we're not likely to win the likes of Leeds and Wigan away.But we also know that on paper this team shouldn't be shipping 30+ points every game and look like we're gonna concede every time the ball goes out wide.

Falls off chair.



Exactly. The stats against Cas were ridiculous, something like twenty odd sets in their half as opposed to Cas having about eight in ours.

Sandercock identified the problem in November 2011, the fact it's still a probelm indicates he can't solve it.

Part of a coaches remit is to improve individuals, one of our major problems is our centres defensive reads and the patterns they've been coached to (I actually think it's wider than that and also involves our second rowers not sliding and people not covering for them when they've been invovlved in the tackle) Welham has gone backwards at an alarming rate. From being on the cusp of the England squad two years ago to probably not making the seventeen if everyone was fit is some slump. Salter hasn't looked the player he did last year either.

The team was always going to take time to gel, but it was Sandercock's decision to have such a large squad overhaul (personally I don't think you should bring in more than three or four new players each year) I'll give him a little more time, but a shellacking in The Derby and I think the axe will fall.