Well maybe after we gat beat Chester will not blame the ref or the fact saints have a team of internationals or the video ref or its raining etc. I hope,still he is only keeping the seat warm for our next great coach

That's good set the bar high. Dignified in defeat is the new yard stick for Hull Kingston Rovers. With this kind of pressure I feel Chester may not be up to it.

Be very interesting how the players 're act Sunday. This all seems a colossal mess. There has been a huge improvement in young players with half a dozen looking good long term prospects.

Has the rumour of Burns release clause been confirmed or denied anywhere. Newton left with Morgan. Burns stated when he came he had better offers but wanted to play for Sandercock.

Wonder why the players had Friday off? Resentment in the ranks?

I'd love to know where this misnomer that out youth development has been so good has come from. Weve produced no more than we did under morgan.

This.

Well other than the fluke of Welham we had Latus under Morgan and weekly batterings for the youth teams. Now the youth teams appear competitive each week with half a dozen in first team squad contention.
No change then or just a misnomer?



Ps do you and Stan come as a pair?

Do you and Sandercock?

Clearly not. I just have a different opinion to you. But that doesn't seem to be allowed on here.

I just want the club to do well. Sacking Sandercock maybe the answer. It maybe a terrible decision. It hasn't been handled well at all it seems.

You looking forward to losing with dignity Sunday?

Taylor's done ok for himself, cox debuted under Morgan as did green I think. Still the welham fluke suits your remit better

It seems it's me that's not allowed an opinion that differs to yours.

For the life of me I struggle to see how it can be a terrible decision. If he'd stayed Based on this year and previous year on year 'improvement' in a 12 team league next year we'll be bottom 3 at best. Salford will come good. Hull who knows and wakey will be our competition, could it be worse??

I posted a list of questions to you on a previous thread that outlined my opinion and I'm still waiting for anyone to answer them to the contrary. Just because I'm not an east stand apologist sheep doesn't devalue my opinion.

You sure do, I don't fall for all the rfl consiracy bull for 1 and I don't like seeing the club settling for mediocrity under the last coaching set up, unlike you.

As for Sunday, I will be shouting the team on as I always do, but won't turn a blind eye when we throw forward passes and stand offside. I will be overjoyed if we pull off a very unlikely win, but won't go round crying foul if we lose.

You still got a [ifatwa[/i out on Tim Roby?

I did reply to some of the questions you posted. Here goes at my take on them.

Why have we not progressed over the last 3 seasons as we'd want. A variety of reasons.
Having to replace key players Dobson Green Taylor Paea Newton Briscoe Fox etc who left for a variety of reasons. Other teams recruitment and development Widnes Cas Catalan Etc. Why the he'll weren't we in for Dorn or Hauraki for instance. These are big rugby clubs with resources to match ours and intelligent people running them. To expect them to stand still while we have a free hand is a little naive.
Bad tactics in some games.
Some horrible injuries to key players. We have lost Poore Langley Larroyer etc over the last two months alone. Sandercock certainly hasnt been lucky. Something Napoleon thought reasonably important.
Vindictive incompetent officials.
The chairman spending a lot of last season debating whether he'd continue (though that isn't to blame him as if not for him we probably wouldn't exist anymore).
The crowd turning on the team which started in Morgan's last season.
Finishing 4th leading lots of folk to think we'd do that every year.
On and on. A myriad of things in summary.
For me Sandercock had many faults but did have a good long term view. Bet he's quickly in work in the NRL. As I've posted before could be a good thing letting him go could be a disaster.
The names banded about to replace him are underwhelming and the whole thing has a feeling of shambles about it at present.

My point about different opinions was aimed at Stan. He comes over as a bit of a bully and has bored me sh##less with his constant moaning this season.

Glad to be of service. You just bore the rest of us with your pathetic insistence of rfl conspiracies.

Vindictive? Grow up man.

Oh Stan Stan and his moral high horse....
There's no conspiracy theory. They are just grossly incompetent and some vindictive.
The fatwah on the bearded infidel stands.

Name names then, who's on the "vindictive" list this week? Does the list change from week to week depending on results?

Fatwa, we drop our h's round these parts.

The thing is, injuries aside most of those issues were there for cs to sort out, replacing players highlighting targets, playing tactics etc and he has really made no headway on any of these fronts.

The whole crap ref thing, too a point I'll go with, there are some poor refs but as stan said the constant moaning from the stand is making the match going experience a negative one, especially as a lot of the time the ref gets it right and it's our players being dumb.

The key thing for me is with cs in charge my group that was 8 is now down to 4 and if it carried on it would be down to 2 next year. That can't go on, CS may be just an unlucky coach but unfortunately if napoleon had an unlucky general I reckon he'd get rid.

CS's media front also didn't help his constant excuse led press conferences just undermine any positives, maybe a good assistant but no head coach for me.

Oh Stan missed the point.........again.

If you say so.

I'm pretty sure you never had a point worth missing.

We have a consensus then.
I'd say Sandercock was about par on developing the squad probably though with Bratfud and Wakefield skint we should have done better.
His media management was appalling. His hissy fits and anxiety rubbed off on the team who looked clueless on occasion.
The unlucky ones have to go. The worry is we could be a lot worse off......see our neighbours. Gentle out Radford in...ouch.
The issue with the officials Hudgell is addressing. It was horrible seeing them attacked last week. Though I would like to see some of their heads paraded on sticks it goes somewhat against my morals and it is getting out of hand.

Bit of a one trick pony your moral high horse, ain't it Stan.

We kind of are having a concensus but reading what you say I can see no positives for cs that you seem to think were there. As I say I dont think it can get any worse than the status quo we would've had with cs.

the official thing is becoming a snowball, hudge moans, cs whines and the players start back chat and therefore the fans think its free season to do whatever. Its a dangerous precedent being set and needs nipping. I actually thought thaler had a good game in the hudds game, roby cocked one up and the vrs were there consistent gash selves.

My morals are in the sewer most weekends so once again, I appear to have missed your point. Keep trying though, it's very entertaining, watching you flogging a dead horse (maintaining your equine theme for "comedy" effect).

I think the reaction of the players will tell you a lot about what they think about what's happened this week it will be interesting looking forward to today

Unless it has been listed incorrectly, the team today has D Hodgson in the centre with Hall on the wing and Caro on the other. This was from Rovers on Facebook

Strange get rid of sandercock and caro who he would not play hat trick and hall who is leaving because he could not get games hat trick says it all

what happened to Adam Walker today?