If he can teach Welham to tackle, then I will call him the Messiah!

Come off it pal , the toffee's are class

In the words of Jose Mourinho, judge him after his last game here, not his first few.
Fwiw I think he will still be at the helm in 4/5 years.

Yer, ur kid reckons so too, he's a numpty aswell.

Seems Hull just can't keep hold of that cue...

Looked like we replaced it with our dicks today. Still, what else would I do with a sunday afternoon and £70?

Everton have been consistantly the best "team" in the Premiership most years. They might not have the best quailty, but the players they have sold on for big money over Moyes' reign show how much other teams wanted to buy this. The fact that most have been pretty crap afterwards adds to this.

eh i know its not HKR related but aside from Rooney & the very overpriced Lescott who are the other players theyve sold on for "big money". and correct me if im wrong but both have gone on to win the premiership hardly a decline in form that is it.

Arteta

went for around £10m hardly big money these days, and played for the team that finished third. so hardly a decline there either

Not really sure how we came to to discuss everton football club, but since we are comparing - Everton fans are very loyal and back managers, will the Rovers majority see the bigger picture and realize this is a 2-3 year plan at least or after a couple of defeats will it be a case of asking for Sandercocks head again wanting a quick fix?

Can we just stop this Everton comparison right now? Look at the facts, Everton have neighbours who they hardly ever beat, and who win trophies by the bucket load.

End of comparison.

Won trophies by the bucket load 30 years ago, so maybe there more like us lol.
When I compared us to Everton, I meant well never consistently finish up near the top like Everton don't, there always in the group of teams just under them, that's there place in the prem as IMO its ours in S/L.

Quote ="SirStan"Can we just stop this Everton comparison right now? Look at the facts, Everton have neighbours who they hardly ever beat, and who win trophies by the bucket load. End of comparison.'" Liverpools success, as in the past tense, they have hardly set the world on fire for many years now and according to the article below Everton are actualy rated the 4th most succesful side in English football, they were certainly a very good side during the sixties and seventies as i remember them. www.toffeeweb.com/club/guide.asp

Quote ="SirStan"Can we just stop this Everton comparison right now? Look at the facts, Everton have neighbours who they hardly ever beat, and who win trophies by the bucket load. End of comparison.'" Liverpools success, as in the past tense, they have hardly set the world on fire for many years now and according to the article below Everton are actualy rated the 4th most succesful side in English football, they were certainly a very good side during the sixties and seventies as i remember them. www.toffeeweb.com/club/guide.asp

Wonder if Liverpool and Everton are having comparisons to Rovers and Hull on their forums . . . .

Thread drift to dirty blue nose scousers .... eeeek

The only thing in common we have with Everton is, we both offer the worst value for money away ends in our respected divisions.

how very dare you!!

as somebody who has supported both Everton and Rovers for the last 30 odd years I am more than happy with the comparison of the 2 greatest sports teams

There's something in what you say certainly fans are very fickle.

But I have said from day 1 that Sandercock is a great appointment for Rovers and I have never wavered from that view.

He works so incredibly hard people at the club actually tell him to ease off. He is a 100% hands on coach and all of the players are getting individual guidance like never before.

Even Dobson has improved under Sandercock - he has been asked to take on the line a little more and his 2 tries last night were evidence of the value of that.

The one disappointing area has been the struggles we have had on defence. Loads of work has been put into this but it seemed we might have to wait for next season for it to pay off. But on the evidence of the last 2 games we are getting there now. BTW there was absolutely nothing spawny about Rovers win over Warrington we were by far the better side on the day.

With the increasing emphasis on youth Sandercock is even more important to Rovers. I hope and expect he will be with us for far longer than his original 2 year deal.

The only downside to Sandercock is he was foolish enough to get caught by the Sky cameras getting far too over excited after Craig Hall got high tackled lol, looked like he was gurning

When we're winning that stuff becomes endearing.

He endured a tough start but 6 from 7 (the defeat coming away at SL's best team at this moment) is quite a response. I'm not going to get carried away thinking it is all jam from here, but he's shown he's resilient and can deal with and overcome adversity.

I guess Disco Dave's Derby Dash will live longer in the memory, but Scott Taylor's two tries @ Salford was maybe when we turned the corner (?).

I think the way we played against Hull whilst Dobson was in the sin bin may have been a big factor in our turn around too,

Actually, I believe that it was after the derby at the KC that things turned around. The riot act was obviously issued and everything upped a pace (along with the return of Blake, although our injured again now).

We have lost one game in the last seven, and that was away at Wigan. In the end that was a respectable score as well, much better than most are getting from the Pie Eaters at the moment.

Please don't forget that at the start of the season, we had loads of injuries, loads of new players and a new coach. It was always going to take time to get into their stride.

And as for people saying that Huddersfield looked poor, nobody has actually pointed out that they were poor because we made them look ordinary rather than them just being generally poor which they weren't at the start of the game.

I believe the turnaround was when we got Galea & Green back got a little confidence into our game and the rest is history.

We'll need a speculation thread as well as a rumour thread at this rate.

I believe the turning point was when I changed which turn style I enter the ground at for the London game, that and predicting we'll lose every week.

I would sooner see a coach / manager show a bit of passion rather than just sit there with his hands on his thighs..