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| What it means to beating Hull.
It means reading 50 pages on their board about how the referee won us the game and the imaginary underhand tactics used by Rovers.
It means another 50 pages of Agar out and the usual excuses about injuries.
It means a HDM pullout listening to little Dickie Agar calling for more protection for Fat Luaki and his moans about Rovers players hair colourings.
Up until last season when FC saved their best performances and beat us twice in the league it was getting quite run of the mill beating them and the bigger clubs like Wigan, Saints and Leeds gave more satisfaction when victories were secure.
Derby victories always feel special and the bigger the derby game like the play off game in 2010 the more special it feels.
Like one of the Hull players was quoted in the HDM last season .....he wanted to win the CC at Wembley to stop that song us Rovers fans sing and which constanly gets under their skin.
Any fan who says it is another two points is correct but every fan would rather take those two points than any other two points on offer.
And finally the derby games at the KC gives the stadium its annual dose of atmosphere.
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| winning is like meeting a celestial virgin............
and losing is like seeing your black n white mate stood just behind her, waving his used condom at you smuggly........
now if that dont make the programme i dont know what will......
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| Hull SL Ltd. are a pitiful organisation riddled with bitterness and an excuses culture which runs right the way through their club from the board room all the way through to it's fans and even extends to some sections of the local media who are happy to promote their propaganda.
Hull KR are the most progressive club in Super League with a long term vision of winning silverware - our dominance over Hull SL Ltd. in the meantime simply means their fans are kept quieter than if they had beaten us.
Unfortunately we have to wait until Cardiff to put an end to their annual off season winging about injuries, bad luck etc. etc. Their excuses culture is sickening to be honest and I can't wait till Cardiff when they are put in their place - just like their last game of last season at the KC.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Hull SL Ltd. are a pitiful organisation riddled with bitterness and an excuses culture which runs right the way through their club from the board room all the way through to it's fans and even extends to some sections of the local media who are happy to promote their propaganda.
Hull KR are the most progressive club in Super League with a long term vision of winning silverware - our dominance over Hull SL Ltd. in the meantime simply means their fans are kept quieter than if they had beaten us.
Unfortunately we have to wait until Cardiff to put an end to their annual off season winging about injuries, bad luck etc. etc. Their excuses culture is sickening to be honest and I can't wait till Cardiff when they are put in their place - just like their last game of last season at the KC.'"
Class . Always will be the little rugby league club in Hull and your comments reflect that.
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| Quote ="fcimp"Class
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| The modern majority at FC since the KC was opened like to think it means nothing to beat us, but talk to older FC fans (the minority of them who went to the Boulevard) and it still means everything to them to beat us in a derby. An old colleague of mine (now in his 60's) was talking to me after the drubbing we recieved after a derby friendly at the KC and he was happy as a pig in $h*t because it was a derby win. I am the same, as someone who has been going since 1963 I think the derby games are still the best games to win, yes its nice to beat Leeds or Wigan away, but there is always something special about a derby win and something aweful about a derby defeat.
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| Despite all the barbed comments on here,I still believe your team winning is the best feeling,whichever team you are playing.
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| I remember when. We was in nl2 all the nasty. Comment and disbarraging remarks
Hull fc gave us the sheer arrogance of hull fans and the club towards us. And when we returned to the top flight they said we let you win just show they cannot accept defeat with dignity. The utter arrogsance and. We are supieror goose stepping they do, make victory over gods gift all the better. Because we accept defeat with dignity hull fc can never do that . That is why. Beating fc means to me dragging them off their high horse, they put them selves on.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Say what you want about witnessing the birth of your first born but it doesnt come close to the emotion of beating Hull in a Play off game at the KC. [uThinking back i dont recall the conception rivalling it either.[/u'"
Are you sure you was there?
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| Quote ="fcimp"Doesn't change anything.
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| It always means a little more than a usual victory/defeat, the fact you can show your face at work and your team has either backed up your boasts or made you look an idiot is more often than not known until the very last seconds of the games
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| the banter is what makes them special, you spend the week winding your mates up from the other side and having them winding you up, knowing that if you lose your gonna get loads but if you win then bring it on, cos yes, your gonna dish it out big time.
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| Many thanks for all your help. Best responses will hopefully go into the Millennium Magic programme.
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| Quote ="rednwhite"a026.gif I remember when. We was in nl2 all the nasty. Comment and disbarraging remarks
Hull fc gave us the sheer arrogance of hull fans and the club towards us. And when we returned to the top flight they said we let you win just show they cannot accept defeat with dignity. The utter arrogsance and. We are supieror goose stepping they do, make victory over gods gift all the better. Because we accept defeat with dignity hull fc can never do that . That is why. Beating fc means to me dragging them off their high horse, they put them selves on.'"
I've only just seen this post. What a cracker! Bound to make it in to the programme.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"the banter is what makes them special, you spend the week winding your mates up from the other side and having them winding you up, knowing that if you lose your gonna get loads but if you win then bring it on, cos yes, your gonna dish it out big time.'" Generally this is wrong as most of the people who try to wind you up are not rugby fans and they just jump on the hull daily mail/look north big ups........ my mam n dad supports them but i know sod all about rugby type of people. Most real fans generally know the games will be close and not much in it either way. I prefer talking to the real rovers supporters that like to talk rugby league rather than the ( oh rovers wee'd all over u vise versa conversations) either way its bollards and it means no more to me than another 2 points and hopefully a decent game of rugby. But its usually poor technically and skillfully. Although i do generally enjoy it for the atmosphere
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"Generally this is wrong as most of the people who try to wind you up are not rugby fans and they just jump on the hull daily mail/look north big ups........ my mam n dad supports them but i know sod all about rugby type of people. Most real fans generally know the games will be close and not much in it either way. I prefer talking to the real rovers supporters that like to talk rugby league rather than the ( oh rovers wee'd all over u vise versa conversations) either way its bollards and it means no more to me than another 2 points and hopefully a decent game of rugby. But its usually poor technically and skillfully. Although i do generally enjoy it for the atmosphere'"
Sorry but I can't agree, as we are all from the same city the wind up is all part and parcel of the game in Hull and is what probably sets this derby apart from the rest of RL. It is just 2 points (or deciding whether the season continues or not ) but it does feel either a whole lot worse or a whole lot better depending on how the result goes.
I too like to have sensible conversations with FC fans I know and work with but also like to have a bit of banter when we win or lose. To say banter is only used by non rugby fans is so very wide of the mark. Some people take it way too far I agree and I believe some people do 'hate' the other clubs which is just silly (anything past strongly dislike is unhealthy).
One question for you, does it feel exactly the same to to win or lose to us as it does if you win or lose to Harlequins?
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| Quote ="barham red"Sorry but I can't agree, as we are all from the same city the wind up is all part and parcel of the game in Hull and is what probably sets this derby apart from the rest of RL. It is just 2 points (or deciding whether the season continues or not
) but it does feel either a whole lot worse or a whole lot better depending on how the result goes.
I too like to have sensible conversations with FC fans I know and work with but also like to have a bit of banter when we win or lose. To say banter is only used by non rugby fans is so very wide of the mark. Some people take it way too far I agree and I believe some people do 'hate' the other clubs which is just silly (anything past strongly dislike is unhealthy).
One question for you, does it feel exactly the same to to win or lose to us as it does if you win or lose to Harlequins?'" obviously the anticipation/atmosphere and even the odd flutters in the belly in a derby game. and yeah it does feel slightly better to win this game than the others. But really im quite sick of them, and your right some people do take them way too far/hatred. And i do generally find most of my rovers mates will talk sensibly about the game which ever way the result goes. Its just a small % of them that give the banter which really isnt worth anything with the standard of rugby usually on display lol its still 2 points
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"obviously the anticipation/atmosphere and even the odd flutters in the belly in a derby game. and yeah it does feel slightly better to win this game than the others. But really im quite sick of them, and your right some people do take them way too far/hatred. And i do generally find most of my rovers mates will talk sensibly about the game which ever way the result goes. [uIts just a small % of them that give the banter [/uwhich really isnt worth anything with the standard of rugby usually on display lol its still 2 points
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Serious Question - do you actually know what "banter" means?
Id say 95% of both sets of fans have banter between them and other fans, family or colleagues.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Serious Question - do you actually know what "banter" means?
Id say 95% of both sets of fans have banter between them and other fans, family or colleagues.'"
I think thats the problem, some people don't know the difference between banter (good natured ragging of each other) and arguing (the more aggressive bile spilled by the 5% on both sides). Banter is what makes the city's rivalries special, the other is what gives it a bad name.
For those who say its got worse since the 80's either you weren't around in the 80's or you've just forgot how bad it was back then, far worse than now, people did it face to face and it went off a lot, now 99% of the worst side of the rivalry is done by keyboard wind up merchants.
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| At the end of the day I believe that the majority of fans from both clubs like to give good humoured banter.For those who overstep the mark ,whats the point?
Its a game when all said and done,and supporters of either team are passionate about their club,and no amount of P taking,or snide comments would really change anybodies mind.
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| Nothing other than 2 points,,,,,,,,,,,,,if they where a force in SL I would be over the moon but to beat a 3rd rate team is like a win over West Hull...... Expected!
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