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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"How Championship clubs can attract SL quality full timers on a 300K salary cap (or is it going to be 350K, I forget) would appear to be "Warrington-esque" in its brilliance.'"
Unless they are paid as full time professionals (and therefore will be used for community development work, marketing or given jobs in the shop to shift most of their wage from the cap into a different area) then why would they be paid a SL salary for playing in the Championship?
Most Championship players worth bothering with have a basic of between 5k and 15k a year plus bonus. You can do it if you stick to a plan
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"Similar to the one Richard Whiting signed?
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Same concept, different figures, obviously.
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| How odd. Rovers are slated for undervaluing Makali (aided and abetted by the evil agent Stanley Gene) yet Hull FC were unwilling to offer him a deal competitive with a Championship club.
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Unless they are paid as full time professionals (and therefore will be used for community development work, marketing or given jobs in the shop to shift most of their wage from the cap into a different area) then why would they be paid a SL salary for playing in the Championship?
Most Championship players worth bothering with have a basic of between 5k and 15k a year plus bonus. You can do it if you stick to a plan
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Sort of begs the question, how much were Hull offering him if he turned them down in favour of Fax, given your information?
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"Sort of begs the question, how much were Hull offering him if he turned them down in favour of Fax, given your information?'"
Have you not seen the size of the community team at Halifax?
Hull, for example, may have offered 30k a year.
Halifax, just for example, may have offered 15k basic, 18k for community work (paid by sport England or other such grants) and £350 a win 150 a draw £50 a bonus point.
Hull would of offered a reasonable amount for a full time player who would be 4th choice prop if you ask me, just that Championship clubs can bring in one or two (about 8 in Fax's case) SL standard players and use other legal methods to pay them.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"How odd. Rovers are slated for undervaluing Makali (aided and abetted by the evil agent Stanley Gene) yet Hull FC were unwilling to offer him a deal competitive with a Championship club.'"
Read my post below and think before you comment
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Have you not seen the size of the community team at Halifax?
Hull, for example, may have offered 30k a year.
Halifax, just for example, may have offered 15k basic, 18k for community work (paid by sport England or other such grants) and £350 a win 150 a draw £50 a bonus point.
Hull would of offered a reasonable amount for a full time player who would be 4th choice prop if you ask me, just that Championship clubs can bring in one or two (about 8 in Fax's case) SL standard players and use other legal methods to pay them.'"
Ok, ta for the explanation. I now understand how top Championship sides (and Fev ) manage to recruit decent standard players. Now if they could only improve the standard of back room/coaching staff.................
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Have you not seen the size of the community team at Halifax?
Hull, for example, may have offered 30k a year.
Halifax, just for example, may have offered 15k basic, 18k for community work (paid by sport England or other such grants) and £350 a win 150 a draw £50 a bonus point.
Hull would of offered a reasonable amount for a full time player who would be 4th choice prop if you ask me, just that Championship clubs can bring in one or two (about 8 in Fax's case) SL standard players and use other legal methods to pay them.'"
But this bloke called Bandito used to post on here, and sadid Maki was going to Hull for a pay rise! And he knew everything coz he was the waterboy at some also ran NL team!
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"Ok, ta for the explanation. I now understand how top Championship sides (and Fev
) manage to recruit decent standard players. Now if they could only improve the standard of back room/coaching staff.................'"
Yeah, Daryl Powell, Ryan Sheridan and Iestyn Harris really ought to step aside and let someone with some coaching credentials have a go.
Same with Cullen at Widnes and Harrison at Batley.
Replace them all with coaches from the National Conference League eh
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Have you not seen the size of the community team at Halifax?
Hull, for example, may have offered 30k a year.
Halifax, just for example, may have offered 15k basic, 18k for community work (paid by sport England or other such grants) and £350 a win 150 a draw £50 a bonus point.
Hull would of offered a reasonable amount for a full time player who would be 4th choice prop if you ask me, just that Championship clubs can bring in one or two (about 8 in Fax's case) SL standard players and use other legal methods to pay them.'"
Can Super League clubs not use the same means to bump up a players wages or is the Super League salary cap more tightly regulated?
I know that some Rovers reserve lads work on the development side but wondered wether it could be done with a first team squad member?
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Can Super League clubs not use the same means to bump up a players wages or is the Super League salary cap more tightly regulated?
I know that some Rovers reserve lads work on the development side but wondered wether it could be done with a first team squad member?'"
No it cant , more scrutinised
We got done when Andy Last played a game, they took the full amount of both his playing and coaching salaries into account, although rules have slighlty changed now
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| Quote ="Hutchie"No it cant , more scrutinised
We got done when Andy Last played a game, they took the full amount of both his playing and coaching salaries into account, although rules have slighlty changed now'"
I remember the Last situation but didnt realise they took his coaching salary into account. Seems harsh when he was genuinly doing the job.
I would have thought that the League would be better off encouraging clubs to put players into Development positions, on a part-time basis going into schools etc.
Its got to be better for the game than some of the other alleged examples of clubs getting around the Salary Cap.
On a different topic, does anybody know How Dobbos girlfriend is getting on working in the Rovers club shop?
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Have you not seen the size of the community team at Halifax?
Hull, for example, may have offered 30k a year.
Halifax, just for example, may have offered 15k basic, 18k for community work (paid by sport England or other such grants) and £350 a win 150 a draw £50 a bonus point.
Hull would of offered a reasonable amount for a full time player who would be 4th choice prop if you ask me, just that Championship clubs can bring in one or two (about 8 in Fax's case) SL standard players and use other legal methods to pay them.'"
Haven't you heard? We pay our team in beer (at half time apparently)
[urlhttp://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/local/Makali-completes-Fax-deal.5625818.jp[/url
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| I hope he makes the impact for you that he did for us, this season aside.
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Yeah, Daryl Powell, Ryan Sheridan and Iestyn Harris really ought to step aside and let someone with some coaching credentials have a go.
Same with Cullen at Widnes and Harrison at Batley.
Replace them all with coaches from the National Conference League eh
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With that much experience & talent in the dug out they really should have done better than 6th. Season over on Friday night?
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"How Championship clubs can attract SL quality full timers on a 300K salary cap (or is it going to be 350K, I forget) would appear to be "Warrington-esque" in its brilliance.'"
the Salary Cap is still 400,000 at the minute as i understand it. even if it gets lowered to 350,000 or even 300,000 we are still only operating at the minute at 250,000 we have more than enough room, i'm sure Aizue knows he wont be on a big amount going to a championship club
we are not breaking the salary cap and we wont be paying him super league wages wither i wouldnt have thought.
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"With that much experience & talent in the dug out they really should have done better than 6th. Season over on Friday night?'"
We would of done, however a few players who have realised they are on their way out at the end of the year have decided in the last three games that they are better off preserving themselves for the new season in the hope to find a club I think.
Had we beaten Barrow (tough ask but possible, we nearly did it up there in the NRC) and Sheffield and Batley I think we would be 2nd now.
I imagine season will be over friday night, however sheffield are not that brilliant, just a well drilled side who do the basics all night long and dont give in, hence the amount of bonus points.
You never know though this year in the Championship, there are shocks nearly every week.
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| Quote ="13rovers"But this bloke called Bandito used to post on here, and sadid Maki was going to Hull for a pay rise! And he knew everything coz he was the waterboy at some also ran NL team!'"
And a well paid Water Boy at that, mind you with Harris and Jamie Field also Water Boys at Fev just lately they must be the best paid in the World
Now, can I get you some penuts to go with all that Bitter you have lying around?
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"No I said he would sign for Hull, with whom he has sat down and spoken to 3 times, they just would not pay him enough, Halifax will.
At the time Makka was still going to sign for Hull as Haliax had not offered anything.'"
He spoke to Bradford too i understand.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"He spoke to Bradford too i understand.'"
Sorry mate, thought I had put that, yeah he did.
Thought he was nailed on to go to Sheffield with the other PNG boys being there but money is tight around the DVS so doubt they could afford him.
Think a couple of PNG maybe at other Championship clubs this coming season so should be some fireworks around the division
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| Thank you MAKKA and good luck
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| just heard its been confirmed, 2yr contract with halifax.... Anyone heard out?
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| Quote ="very red robin"just heard its been confirmed, 2yr contract with halifax.... Anyone heard out?'" Was running on Sky Sports all yesterday aswell as an article on the BBC website.
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| Quote ="SCF"Was running on Sky Sports all yesterday aswell as an article on the BBC website.'"
God i must be well out of touch with things this week then
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"He spoke to Bradford too i understand.'"
Indeed all THREE of his agents did
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