A whole minute longer than Mark O'Meley did against Saints

Don't confuse them with facts

Fitzgibbon's averaging 44 tackles and one missed a game. We can afford to be kind to our props effectively with him overdelivering.

Good first hit out for Clinton i thought.

Yes while he's still somewhat fresh, I said to you when you signed him i didn't think he'd be able to keep it up in a long hard season.

Lets hope he can for O'meleys sake

Well he is isn't he? I'm sure he's fresher after 4 games than he will be after 24 with all the bumps that come in this tough game

Did you? What you actually said was "He wouldn't get in our side simple as, the Fitzgibbon of 4-5 years ago definately but he is pension seeking now"

And "All those achivements are very good, Max Krilich achieved all that though and much like Craig Fitzgibbon i wouldn't want him in my team now either"

Pension seeking implies to$$ing it off and winding down, putting in minimal effort for your money. I'd suggest that 51 tackes vs Huddersfield say different. Just my opinion, like.

You need to find the other quotes, the one when you asked me why i wouldn't have him. I'm sure you'll have them filed away somewhere.

He's started very well for you, I doubt he'll be able to keep it up that sort of work rate for a full season in a tough competition.

However Joel Clinton started well i'm sure you'll agree

He is a top drawer professional this guy and that is why he will go the full course without a doubt (if injury free), his fitness is awesome apparently one of the fittest in the squad and this will stand him in good stead. He is genuinley one of the best players I have had the pleasure to watch and that is not based on the fact he is B&W as I have admired many rovers players as well.

Sure he will go well when he has improved his fitness

He's showing up well so far, the stats pulled up before fridays game showed him to be performing well

That holds for any player, doesn't it? Vella, for example. Are you worried that he won't last the pace too? He is the same age as Fitzgibbon.

Vella is 8 months younger.



I think Hull look very pumped up, early on in the season. That is exactly what they needed, but it is more not difficult to imagine them having a adrenaline hangover at some point during the season.

Anyway - Joel Clinton. I thought Morgan used him very intelligently and he looks like the type of player who might give our pack a bit more impetus, as the season goes on.

Clinton is exactly what we need, could do with another similar style of prop.

Stats..


Tackles
Fitz..134..Vella 66

Marker Tackles
Fitz..20..Vella 9

Vella will be fine he is pacing himself

So we've got a new first choice half back combination (and have had 3 different HB combinations in 4 games), have O'Meley, Fitzgibbon and (to all intents and purposes) Lauaki debuting and a back 5 with an average age of 22 1/2, and you think we've peaked already? OK.


Agreed. Looks good.

Is there a minutes on the pitch stat?

I think Fitzgibbon has done three 80min stints and one 70 minute.

Correct

Cheers scarrie, two players with different roles and with Vella having less time on the pitch, the stats aren't two to be compared. Fitzgibbon is a decent player no doubting that.

Just discussing if players of that age can last the course of the season



Maybe I will compare Vella,s stats to a similar player

Don't let me stop you in your game of top trumps.

Unless there's a category for "dodgy knees" or "unnecessary niggling at the PTB", I'd go with Fitz TBH.

almost double what Sam Moa manages then