not heard that one but nick scruton is joining us apparently?

With the news of Lawlers vertibrae problem during the Leigh game, it highlights that some players are committed to the club, whilst others (maybe Kelly) are not.

I think Kelly has burned his bridges, as he has at other clubs.

I don't think he doesn't care though, he just lacks the self-discipline and professionalism not to let himself and his employers down, which to me is subtlety different.

Certainly last year at Wembley, he was one of the few that stood up to be counted in a horrible performance by the team, and who didn't deserve that scoreline. What might turn out to be his last game for us was a motm display in securing a result that might prove crucial to our SL survival. He looked like he cared then. It's just away from the pitch that me makes a balls of things.

If Salford were to go down would you take Dobson back ?

That would depend, I'd like to think there is better available, we had his best years 08-13.

I'll join you on the fence.

We wouldn't be getting the player we had back then, but he's a good pro with a decent fitness record. Sheens will have a good idea as to what he could offer.

We need to play to win a couple of games first.

To be honest think like not wanting to announce sheen this early. How do we not know Kr haven't already done all deals for news signings, cos they will of told players who wont be here next season already and me personally think we may lose 10 to 12 layers.. this includes larroyer ,boubedza, green, kelly, campese I think others to maybe go would be tiles. Sio, horne, blair,

In his interview after the London game, NH described the turnover of players we had ahead of 2015 as madness, iirc. I think 6 or 7, maybe 8, is more likely.

Tbf, with a decent preseason a lot of the players we have would look a lot better. 3 points from 18 in our first 9 games was disastrous. Once we got going (relatively speaking), even with all the injuries we got 11 points from our next 14 games. Not brilliant, but roughly the sort of level many expected preseason (the Oldham debacle, aside).

Lets make sure we are still in super league first then worry about who is going and who is coming

Highly unlikely to be anywhere near that number in my opinion.
A complete turnover of players to that degree would take almost a full season for them to gel together.
My guess is it will be around half a dozen or so players.

So glad Salford got beat

I've tried my best, but please will someone translate this post for me.

Fine all I said was there is a lot of known players leaving so will be at least 7 going so hope we get better players coming in. Is that better

I know that the Grammar Police don't go down well here, I was politely questioning HOW you said it, not the actual content.

was on a night out in hull with jacob miller and chris green last night on read on fb (saturday night)

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Just a question about Kelly if anyone in the know could answer?is he still training during suspension on own or still supervised by club conditioners?is he in a position to play if suspension lifted tomorrow?

no idea to your question but thinking about it logically last week Peacock said on the SL show, we will be meeting albert and his agent this week ( that been last week ) so they must have had that meeting surely the matter would have been sorted if he was to play again a fine imposed or suspension announced and he would be back in contention, my guess is he has been told he will have his contract terminated and due to legal process if they could not agree a pay off will be silent about the issue, that seems to be what's going on, otherwise its a barmy situation one of your best players sitting out the most important game /games in 10 years at rovers, it may end up in an employment tribunal hence the lack of information coming out

I don't think that will be far from the top & bottom of it. Dismissal I suspect, but if done correctly then there would be little prospect of ending up in a tribunal.

Rovers want rid of Kelly without paying him but he is contracted for another year.

That's the difficulty.

If everyone can make up and be friendly he'll play against Huddersfield and next year too. (*) Otherwise he's finished and it's in the hands of the lawyers as to whether his pay off is something, nothing or plenty.

(*) Not for us for Wakefield in a swap deal for car crash bad boy Danny Kirmond.

Kelly is a Bell end, no respect for Rover so bugger off back to Aussie and inflict your attitiude on some other club. Waste of talent just won't realise until it to late. It is now well know about his betrayal informing Cory Patterson of the game plan that's why he will never play for us again.

all rumours but cant see that being the reason, why the hell would he do it anyway, it will come out in the wash and the latest one is not that but something a bit worse if true,

That rumour was dismissed 2 weeks ago, it was pointed out that Rovers haven't had a game plan all year.

Bit off this topic but the18th man on Facebook looks for everything rugby league he says koukash has made offer for Newcastle knights but looks like failing and he's on verge leaving Salford and being big share holder Athol kr

I was waiting for someone to crack that one