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| Quote ="barham red"Fair comments from Hudge around pretence although I do think it would be better for the club for this to have been kept under wraps until the end of season as I can see some fans getting on his back especially if he makes mistakes or drops his intensity.
Gentle has done the right thing by saying he’s interested but not more, I can imagine if he’d announced it Hudge would be claiming it was an attempt to unsettle us.
FC have bagged themselves a good player, a blow to us but not the end of the world. Just need to get in a frontline prop. I’d like us to get a prop who plays more minutes.'"
Yeah, all of that. Although for such a powerful player his minutes have been good of late. I suspect both clubs would have been happy to let sleeping dogs lie, for a few weeks - but Mather put a metaphorical bomb under that. Forced our hand really - we could play along with either silence or honesty (if forewarned), but playing along with his rubbish - no. It's not like it was exactly keeping a lid on it.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Yeah, all of that. Although for such a powerful player his minutes have been good of late. I suspect both clubs would have been happy to let sleeping dogs lie, for a few weeks - but Mather put a metaphorical bomb under that. Forced our hand really - we could play along with either silence or honesty (if forewarned), but playing along with his rubbish - no. It's not like it was exactly keeping a lid on it.'"
Not sure why what the agent said made any difference at all to what the clubs should have done ? If the agent was asked directly about Paea's intentions and Paea understandably didn't want to finish his KR career as a 'future FC player' then the agent protecting his player and giving a fairly generic answer isn't really such a bad thing is it ? Hudgell could have simply said nothing. Contract negotiations and deals like this must happen as a matter of course in the league - why should this one be outed so that 'the fans know the truth'. Comes across as yet more bitterness I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Not sure why what the agent said made any difference at all to what the clubs should have done ? If the agent was asked directly about Paea's intentions and Paea understandably didn't want to finish his KR career as a 'future FC player' then the agent protecting his player and giving a fairly generic answer isn't really such a bad thing is it ? Hudgell could have simply said nothing. Contract negotiations and deals like this must happen as a matter of course in the league - why should this one be outed so that 'the fans know the truth'. Comes across as yet more bitterness I'm afraid.'"
Have you treat Tickle equally as badly?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"What a shocking way to treat a player who by Hudgell's own reckoning is just doing the best he can for himself. If I was Paea I'd consider myself best off away from that kind of garbage.'"
I like Paea, seems a good bloke - work with disadvantaged kids and all that. But if he and his agent are coming out with misleading statements, and doing it in a pretty incompetent way that lights many more fires than it puts out, our alternatives are joining in, which isn't in our interests, or bringing it to an end. At least McDonnell just kept quiet and looked a bit shifty when questioned by Angela Powers. Maybe it could have worked twice - I bought his 'alibi', tbf, but that was because doing what he has is pretty stupid.
Moving to Hull from Rovers is no crime. It's not going to make you Mr. Popular with red and whites, but it's pro sport. I really don't understand the need for such cack-handed subterfuge.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Not sure why what the agent said made any difference at all to what the clubs should have done ? If the agent was asked directly about Paea's intentions and Paea understandably didn't want to finish his KR career as a 'future FC player' then the agent protecting his player and giving a fairly generic answer isn't really such a bad thing is it ? Hudgell could have simply said nothing. Contract negotiations and deals like this must happen as a matter of course in the league - why should this one be outed so that 'the fans know the truth'. Comes across as yet more bitterness I'm afraid.'"
He could have been much more vague, if that is what he wanted. If the hdm knew he'd signed, then they were going to be like a dog with a bone for something on record. But they could have blocked. Instead he did his very forthright, slightly Sir Les Paterson bit. And 'forthright' is fine, if you're being honest.
Hull fans will generally have a negative perception of NH's actions and motivations, but we're his target audience, and I'd say he's done the right thing to stop it bleeding on. Reet, breakfast time.
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| Tho i agree with Hudge that Paea should just be honest i would prefer it if he spent his time trying to retain some of our players?! So far this week looks like we have lost Carille, Paea and Beaumont with Withers being told to find a new club we have some serious recruitment ahead of us. Maybe next week instead of a player leaving every day we could have one retained. Monday- Cox Tuesday - Horne Wed- Grifffin Thursday - Mika(maybe!) building up to a big signing on Friday. Ok so im in dreamland but would be nice to have some good news
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"What a shocking way to treat a player who by Hudgell's own reckoning is just doing the best he can for himself. If I was Paea I'd consider myself best off away from that kind of garbage.'"
or whata shocking way to treat a club that has provided a platform for him for two years, blatantly lying in the press to hide your true intentions. All about which side of the fence you sit
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| Quote ="barham red"or whata shocking way to treat a club that has provided a platform for him for two years, blatantly lying in the press to hide your true intentions. All about which side of the fence you sit'"
Forgive me for establishing fact, but wasn't it Paea's agent that was interviewed?
Can't really accuse a player of lying, when he hasn't said anything, can you?
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| He's said he has no intention of staying at Rovers,surely that is as much as the fans need to know? who he signs for in either hemisphere is irrelevant. Anything his agent comes out with after that is also irrelevant,it's the fact it's Hull he's signed for that is the problem. I'm glad a few of the more sensible rovers fans who post can see beyond that and take it for what it is,a player fulfilling his contract and moving on. I feel exactly the same way about Tickle and Briscoe and couldn't care less who they sign for (although i know plenty who do).
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| IF the boot was on the other foot all the hull fans that are on this forum would send theirs into melt down, and I only mean the ones that only pop up now and then go on your own forum and leave the decent ones on hear
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Quote ="east hull FC fan"Forgive me for establishing fact, but wasn't it Paea's agent that was interviewed?
Can't really accuse a player of lying, when he hasn't said anything, can you?'"
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... z2WSBdj3ne
I'm reluctant to use an inflammatory term like liar, but this now looks like some very poor 'media management'. And that really is my sole complaint. If Hull's deal is best, it is natural he should move there. Given the rivalry, it is also natural that you might not be too open about it too soon. Expecting Rovers to be complicit in something that would eventually either be revealed as a fabrication or be left making us look bad, and for no obvious benefit to anyone - that was never going to work.
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Quote ="east hull FC fan"Forgive me for establishing fact, but wasn't it Paea's agent that was interviewed?
Can't really accuse a player of lying, when he hasn't said anything, can you?'"
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... z2WSBdj3ne
I'm reluctant to use an inflammatory term like liar, but this now looks like some very poor 'media management'. And that really is my sole complaint. If Hull's deal is best, it is natural he should move there. Given the rivalry, it is also natural that you might not be too open about it too soon. Expecting Rovers to be complicit in something that would eventually either be revealed as a fabrication or be left making us look bad, and for no obvious benefit to anyone - that was never going to work.
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| Would Hudge have said the same if Paea had signed for Wigan or Cats, or is it just because its Hull?
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| Thankfully,we shall never know
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Would Hudge have said the same if Paea had signed for Wigan or Cats, or is it just because its Hull?'"
The question is would Paea be acting the same if it was Wigan or Cats?? Tho i wish he would concentrate on retaining/signing players instead of being in the HDM for once he's right he should just say he's going to FC and the fans can then judge him, Me he's given his all and FC are offering him a substantial deal so well done Mickey i rather he stayed but sadly were a small time club until any decent investment comes along and we will just have to live with it
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| Quote ="barham red"or whata shocking way to treat a club that has provided a platform for him for two years, blatantly lying in the press to hide your true intentions. All about which side of the fence you sit'"
If the KR fans get on Paea's back for being a future FC player how will that help Rovers this season ? Sure if it's true Paea no doubt wanted to avoid some personal flak but maybe also he genuinely wants to give 100% to KR and he/his agent felt that the best way to do that was to keep the move confidential as long as possible to avoid any bad feeling that might occur ? The position is obviously more sensitive with it being a cross city move rather than say Tickle to Widnes or Briscoe to Wigan. Just can't see why Hudgell feels that it's so important that KR fans know about Paea's move now. I'd be amazed if he hasn't been involved in signing players from other clubs in the past where the parties haven't agreed to keep things under wraps. Just seems like by effectively accusing Paea (although it was his agent) of being economical with the truth he's more likely to damage his own club this year than anything/anyone else.
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| C'est La Vie as the saying goes. While i'm disappointed we are losing Mickey, he like any other player has gone for the money. I hope the negativity around the move (brought about by Mickey and his agent) doesn't affect his game and he continues to give 100% for the rest of the season. I for one won't be booing him until he wears the 666...I mean black and white of Hull FC
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| Maybe he wanted to keep it quiet so he could concentrate on giving 100% to your cause for the remainder of the season without being subjected to the kind of abuse he's getting on Twitter and bound to get from the stands. Hardly too much to ask from a player that's never given less than full commitment in his time at your club.
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| Got to say im surprised by this, so much for ambition.
Hull have got themselves a very good SL prop.
We now need to replace him , so back we go to Aussie reserve grade.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Fair play to Mickey and his agent for being open, honest and upfront.
Rovers offered him [ua lot[/u of money to stay but Mickey's preference is to return to the NRL for a number of reasons.
I think there's a chance we may see him back at Rovers in a few years anyway.'"
If your guess is going to be wrong....it might as well really be wrong.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Maybe he wanted to keep it quiet so he could concentrate on giving 100% to your cause for the remainder of the season without being subjected to the kind of abuse he's getting on Twitter and bound to get from the stands. Hardly too much to ask from a player that's never given less than full commitment in his time at your club.'"
I daresay, and it is understandable - but between him and his agent, they've made a bit of a mess of it.
If he keeps running it in hard and helps in our push to make the 8, the lunatic fringe will mostly pipe down, I'm sure. At least until next year, anyway.
Credit to him at least, for being straight with the club. He seems like a decent guy - I suspect it is his agent who has gone off piste, and left MP with an ugly choice.
I don't understand the need to dissemble (even semi-competently). Fair enough, the fall-out from the Paul Cooke saga was pretty unpleasant, but other players have moved without much more than the odd snidey comment or attempt to downplay their talent. Why McDonnell, (maybe?) Galea and Paea seem to want to [islightly[/i delay the ill-feeling, at the risk of aggravating it when the news inevitably emerges (Kendo Nagasaki masks might be the future! ), I can't understand. The fewer games you have to turn out for with it 'out there', I guess. We've only got 3 home fixtures left though and I can't imagine it having stayed under wraps until after the derby. Ah well, spilled milk and all that.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Not sure why what the agent said made any difference at all to what the clubs should have done ? If the agent was asked directly about Paea's intentions and Paea understandably didn't want to finish his KR career as a 'future FC player' then the agent protecting his player and giving a fairly generic answer isn't really such a bad thing is it ? Hudgell could have simply said nothing. Contract negotiations and deals like this must happen as a matter of course in the league - why should this one be outed so that 'the fans know the truth'. Comes across as yet more bitterness I'm afraid.'" Then his agent should have said 'no comment' instead of telling untruths.
NH has every right to say 'that isn't true at all' after his agent has been quoted making stuff up.
Oh BTW it doesn't come across as bitter at all it comes across as 'He got a better deal which us fair enough but I'm not having his agent talking BS'.
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| If the fact is that a deal is already signed then fair enough, get it out in the open and give the fans some honesty. I agree that the McDonnell saga last year was a bit of a joke and it was pretty disappointing that he blatantly lied to our faces and said he wasn't going to Hull. Good Luck to Mickey from a personal point of view.
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| Galling him going to Hull but he has so I wish him well.
I'll miss his big massive face and he'll still get a big round of applause from me on Saturday night.
Props and money are a funny thing, there's no real shortage of them but I personally would have pushed the boat out for Paea as going forward I think he's the best prop in the league.
Hudgell and Sandercock obviously feel that the budget is better spent elsewhere.
I've really enjoyed watching him play, always got the crowd going and his barn storming drives will live long in the memory.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Then his agent should have said 'no comment' instead of telling untruths.
NH has every right to say 'that isn't true at all' after his agent has been quoted making stuff up.
Oh BTW it doesn't come across as bitter at all it comes across as 'He got a better deal which us fair enough but I'm not having his agent talking BS'.'"
Obviously Hudgell can and will say what he likes and quite rightly so.
Whether or not outing some no-name agent for 'talking BS' is more benficial to KR (and therefore its fans) than preventing a situation where some KR fans become openly hostile to one of their key players during an important run-in (it's already happening in Twitter land) - well that's just a judgement call I suppose.
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| I found it funny when Hudge said that giving Sandy a one year extension should 'put to bed' any uncertainties Mickey had at the club!
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