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| Whilst most where probably not expecting Hull KR to beat Wigan, there is a bit of a difference between getting beaten and getting taken to the cleaners.
The fact that Sandercock had already stated that he was against this double fixture just lets his players off the hook to take a snooze day.
In another drubbing at Huddersfield, Betts clearly set out his stall by picking players who he would never pick in a Widnes team.
If coaches give signals to the players about a game not being important then those players are not going to be motivated to play to the top of their game.
Salford managed to face up to Bradford who had an extra day on them, their squad is paper thin, but maybe the fact that the coaching set up at Salford are under pressure to produce results gave them cause to fight for the points even though it was a loss in the end.
Cas too did not throw in the towel, or Wakefield for that matter. The results may still have been losses, but at least they were more in line with what a fan might expect. Not just a blow out as the coach put up the white flag before kick off.
So in the end it's a bit of a self fullfilling prophesy from Sandercock and Betts.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Whilst most where probably not expecting Hull KR to beat Wigan, there is a bit of a difference between getting beaten and getting taken to the cleaners.
The fact that Sandercock had already stated that he was against this double fixture just lets his players off the hook to take a snooze day.
In another drubbing at Huddersfield, Betts clearly set out his stall by picking players who he would never pick in a Widnes team.
If coaches give signals to the players about a game not being important then those players are not going to be motivated to play to the top of their game.
Salford managed to face up to Bradford who had an extra day on them, their squad is paper thin, but maybe the fact that the coaching set up at Salford are under pressure to produce results gave them cause to fight for the points even though it was a loss in the end.
Cas too did not throw in the towel, or Wakefield for that matter. The results may still have been losses, but at least they were more in line with what a fan might expect. Not just a blow out as the coach put up the white flag before kick off.
So in the end it's a bit of a self fullfilling prophesy from Sandercock and Betts.'"
I agree with most of that, but having rushed to the game from work only to see that pathetic display it was not very nice, I except we have a small squad & our halfs were missing but to watch Wigan run in five or more without a hand being laid on them is not right, even if they run over the top of you at least get in their way, the only ones who could take a bit of pride from that were Horne & Salter who tackled everthing they could the rest should look in the mirror for a long while & decide if a career change is on the cards.
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| I think you once conceded 13 tries against saints at the magic fixture but they missed a stack of conversions so this kind of thing happened under morgan
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think you once conceded 13 tries against saints at the magic fixture but they missed a stack of conversions so this kind of thing happened under morgan'"
Yeah, we did, can't remember the exact numbers as I had to get very drunk afterwards.
We had a few blow outs under Morgan, away at Saints and Wire I recall but Sandercock has managed to exceed even that.
And now that Shadows man has turned up with his terrifying little picture.
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| Wigan fan in peace.
First of all thanks to the HKR speccies we met in Soccer Sensations, genuine fans and good to have a chat.
What happened to "pride in your shirt"? Yes Wigan played some really fast open attacking rugby, and their speed and accuracy of passing was great to watch, but some of the Rovers defending, particularly for the Hughes, Green and Smith tries I wouldn't expect if we turned out our U16 side.
It was embarrassing, even for us genuine Wigan fans who like to see a proper match.
Anyway good luck on Sunday and do the right thing and stuff our enemies (Saints)
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Wigan fan in peace.
First of all thanks to the HKR speccies we met in Soccer Sensations, genuine fans and good to have a chat.
What happened to "pride in your shirt"? Yes Wigan played some really fast open attacking rugby, and their speed and accuracy of passing was great to watch, but some of the Rovers defending, particularly for the Hughes, Green and Smith tries I wouldn't expect if we turned out our U16 side.
It was embarrassing, even for us genuine Wigan fans who like to see a proper match.
Anyway good luck on Sunday and do the right thing and stuff our enemies (Saints)'"
Like I posted earlier mate, no effort. Wigan were ruthless thanks to our lack of attitude
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| Quote ="Beverley red"I agree with most of that, but having rushed to the game from work only to see that pathetic display it was not very nice, I except we have a small squad & our halfs were missing but to watch Wigan run in five or more without a hand being laid on them is not right, even if they run over the top of you at least get in their way, the only ones who could take a bit of pride from that were Horne & Salter who tackled everthing they could the rest should look in the mirror for a long while & decide if a career change is on the cards.'"
Completely agree. I had to laugh at Paea being spelled after having 20 mins on the pitch during which he had 3 drives and took part in no more than a handful of tackles!! I did more work drinking a cup of tea. Our forwards need to have a long hard look at themselves. We had set after set trying to get out of our 20 with the likes of Latus and Salter doing all the work, surely the props need to step in and man up, no wonder the edge defence is poor as they’re doing the hard graft.
Total embarrassment and completely unacceptable performance, Wigan weren’t even that good, they never had to be. I said at half time that Wane would have given his lads a roasting for not playing with tempo, looks like he did and Wigan in 2nd gear tore us a new one. I knew we’d get beat, never had any illusions otherwise but never expected this manner of capitulation, what was it 30 points in 12 minutes at the end, the team and coaching staff need to take a long look at themselves and sort that out, there are no excuses.
Easter, all teams play twice. Injuries, so what who hasn’t, doesn’t mean you give up. Starting to think they thought they’d appeased the fans by beating the worst FC team (on Fridays performance) I’ve seen in a long while, well sorry Craig it’s not good enough. Can’t see a win in April and think that might be it.
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| We were in the away end, the worst place ever to watch a game from. There was a freezing gale blowing down the pitch towards us, yet Rovers never used it in the first half. Surely the tactic should have been, especially early on, kick deep and try to force the error.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We were in the away end, the worst place ever to watch a game from. There was a freezing gale blowing down the pitch towards us, yet Rovers never used it in the first half. Surely the tactic should have been, especially early on, kick deep and try to force the error.'"
Tactics??? What are they?
Even as the game was getting away from us we never changed our one man rugby, no offloads, no off the cuff risks, nothing changed at all.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Tactics??? What are they?
Even as the game was getting away from us we never changed our one man rugby, no offloads, =#00FFFFno off the cuff risks, nothing changed at all.'"
We took loads of risks in defence, they all came off and Wigan scored fifteen trys.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Tactics??? What are they?
Even as the game was getting away from us we never changed our one man rugby, no offloads, no off the cuff risks, nothing changed at all.'"
Yet we had more offloads than Wigan bizarre ain't it I think the players were just tired
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"We took loads of risks in defence, they all came off and Wigan scored fifteen trys.'"
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| strange easter for both sets of supporters,you stuffed us fri,then got hammered,we had a good win at wakey,i am seeing some of my dobbin pals tomorrow and will be interesting who is the happier, me i think but not by a lot
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| I bet if they had a fan poll to keep sanders or not I bet I know which way it would go and I bet it would not be to keep him he might be a nice guy but he can not motivate a team and not this team
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| Quote ="gingerspice"Yet we had more offloads than Wigan bizarre ain't it I think the players were just tired
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Trouble is Ginge, that you're supposed to offload to your teammates, not the opposition. The good news for you is you have to go to their ground. The bad news for us is we have still to play them twice.
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"I bet if they had a fan poll to keep sanders or not I bet I know which way it would go and I bet it would not be to keep him he might be a nice guy but he can not motivate a team and not this team
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I think his mistake was moaning about the quick turn round over Easter then filling the side with fringe players against one of the best sides in the competition. He will have expected the youngsters to rise to the occasion ? I don't think he expected the display he got. He has five days to sort it out, lets see how he gets on with the task, I would not get rid of him as I think he is the right man for Rovers & he is still learning his trade. Anyway who would replace him ? dont say Kear or Noble.
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| So we're now the club to have most recently broken our worst result record. But until yesterday ours seems to have been one of the more venerable ones, shared between 1956 and 1991, both at Halifax, coincidentally. Most clubs are too sensible to list theirs, but those SL clubs for which I could find one:
Cas 2006, Hull 2005, Salford 2000, Saints 1909, Warrington 1996, Widnes 2012.
Wigan's seems to have been their 75-0 reverse at saints in 2005 and Hudds can't have had too many worse than the 86-6 Leeds did them by in 1999.
So while there is no getting away from what it is, most clubs have had their worst day in fairly modern times.
Edit, most conceded for Bradford is 1931, but the margin was greater against Hull last year. Hudds lost by 82 in '88. London 6-82 in 2011. Wakefield in 1995, against Cas just for added salt in the wound.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"So we're now the club to have most recently broken our worst result record. But until yesterday ours seems to have been one of the more venerable ones, shared between 1956 and 1991, both at Halifax, coincidentally. Most clubs are too sensible to list theirs, but those SL clubs for which I could find one:
Cas 2006, Hull 2005, Salford 2000, Saints 1909, Warrington 1996, Widnes 2012.
Wigan's seems to have been their 75-0 reverse at saints in 2005 and Hudds can't have had too many worse than the 86-6 Leeds did them by in 1999.
So while there is no getting away from what it is, most clubs have had their worst day in fairly modern times.'"
I don't get your point. Naturally most blow out scores will be relatively recent due to the introduction of the 4 point try in the 80's (can't remember exactly when). I bet none of the above thrashings were on their own park in front of their own paying customers.
Besides, I don't care about other sides past failings, I'm concerned about the flippant way in which our coaching & playing staff approached & executed a SL fixture. All concerned should be ashamed of themselves. Even the Wigan fans were short changed yesterday. They travelled 2 hrs+ for a training session.
Far too much has been read into some of our results this season, particularly beating a shocking Hull side and the victory over half of Warrington's reserves. Widnes showed how easy that can be done.
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| Quote ="SirStan"I don't get your point. Naturally most blow out scores will be relatively recent due to the introduction of the 4 point try in the 80's (can't remember exactly when). I bet none of the above thrashings were on their own park in front of their own paying customers.
Besides, I don't care about other sides past failings, I'm concerned about the flippant way in which our coaching & playing staff approached & executed a SL fixture. All concerned should be ashamed of themselves. Even the Wigan fans were short changed yesterday. They travelled 2 hrs+ for a training session.
Far too much has been read into some of our results this season, particularly beating a shocking Hull side and the victory over half of Warrington's reserves. Widnes showed how easy that can be done.'"
My point, such as it is, is that talking about it in the context of our entire history is to be expected but summer rugby and 4 point tries makes comparison difficult. And I'm trying to rationalise away the plopness of it all, and you're not helping!
Whatever it is in relative terms, and despite some mitigating factors, it is a thoroughly embarrassing scoreline on its own terms, I acknowledge.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"My point, such as it is, is that talking about it in the context of our entire history is to be expected but summer rugby and 4 point tries makes comparison difficult. And I'm trying to rationalise away the plopness of it all, and you're not helping!
Whatever it is in relative terms, and despite some mitigating factors, it is a thoroughly embarrassing scoreline on its own terms, I acknowledge.'"
Lets hope for every rovers fan be they paying customers at the gate or tv watchers we do not see the sort of crap that was dealt up on Monday, no matter who is in charge
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"Lets hope for every rovers fan be they paying customers at the gate or tv watchers we do not see the sort of crap that was dealt up on Monday, no matter who is in charge'"
to be honest i felt worse when featherstone beat us 6-56 in the play offs 10 years ago after beating them 3 times in the league
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"to be honest i felt worse when featherstone beat us 6-56 in the play offs 10 years ago after beating them 3 times in the league'"
Was absolutely gutted that day, having to watch Wakey & Fev in the GF when we'd won all 6 games against them during the league season
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