So, does he have the athletic ability to play at international level, or not? Very confusing:

you say he should not be caught but how can you avoid it if another player is faster,his game is much more than speed-,stength,power,awareness,defence,need i go on

totally agree and wellam is 2nd so stick that in your pipe and smoke it

Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Actually they are not on a par at all offensively Welham has scored 56 Super league tries in 89 Appearances A strike rate of 63% Yeaman scored 42 Tries in his first 89 Appearances A strike rate of 47% And his overall record in SL is 121 Tries in 226 Apps A strike rate of 53.53% Was the try table one you made up in your head '" ..how far do you want to go back Ermmmm...the 4 nations team was picked on last season Kris scored 3 more tries than Kirk, though in fairness he played 2 more games so based on that I think it is safe to say [size=150offensively they are on par[/size...the defensive stats are the bit that make it clear why Kirk was picked over Kris though..simple really superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011 I look forward to your eagerly awaited response as to why Yeamo is not the best left centre in Hull still!

Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Actually they are not on a par at all offensively Welham has scored 56 Super league tries in 89 Appearances A strike rate of 63% Yeaman scored 42 Tries in his first 89 Appearances A strike rate of 47% And his overall record in SL is 121 Tries in 226 Apps A strike rate of 53.53% Was the try table one you made up in your head '" ..how far do you want to go back Ermmmm...the 4 nations team was picked on last season Kris scored 3 more tries than Kirk, though in fairness he played 2 more games so based on that I think it is safe to say [size=150offensively they are on par[/size...the defensive stats are the bit that make it clear why Kirk was picked over Kris though..simple really superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011 I look forward to your eagerly awaited response as to why Yeamo is not the best left centre in Hull still!

No he really is not

Probably the 2nd best winger in the city but I'd say 4th best centre

If Webster was out onto the wing and stayed there he'd be one of the best in the league not just in hull.

Hall and Welham at centre then and Hodgson and Webster on the wings. "Mouthwatering" I think is the adjective most commonly used on here to describe any/all potential Rovers permutations. "Very very exciting" is the other one. When in Rome, and all that.

He really isn't a winger these days, when he played there a couple of occasions last year he looked poor. He had his best season for us, mainly due to staying clear of injuries. He would have scored 25+ tries had he played left centre, as our attack is geared to that side, hence Welhams try tally. His defence is very good. He wears special shorts on derby days, with a big pocket to keep Yeaman in.

Ah,Mrs Borista is at it again.

Only confusing for a degenerate like yourself.

You're quoting (from 2 years ago I might add) specifically about Fox and "athletic ability". Well despite Fox's fall from grace and his crisis of confidence, I'd still back him every day of the week to show his "athletic ability" and not to get caught by Simon Mannering.

However, the overall balance of pros and cons & strengths and weaknesses meant that 2 years ago, Briscoe was not up to playing international rugby league where as today the overall balance balance of pros and cons & strengths and weaknesses mean that he is.

It kind of a similar rhetoric of why the 1970 ashes winning GB team aren't selected in this years squad, because they're not as good as they where because time has moved on - unlike yourself and your outlook on life.

Indeed. Thanks for clearing up that Briscoe is of international quality. On the wing too. Surprising. Offiah's a big fan too.

[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/11/england-four-nations-new-zealand?newsfeed=true[/url

There's really no need for personal name-calling. If you say stoopid stuff, don't get all indignant when you are reminded of it. You have previous for doing 180s and pretending you were right all along. See calling O'Meley a "typical dross signing" before he played a game for Hull, then once he'd actually played calling him "quality". Changing your mind on a weekly basis about where Rovers will finish and just quoting the latest version as your true prediction. Let's not get started on Fox and his Offiah-esque qualities though. Would just be cruel.

I wouldn't like to clean up a hotel room after you two, certainly a whole lot of sexual tension waiting to get out.

I like General Zod. A rich seam of Lewis Carroll-esque =#FF0000Edit-AS and utterly ineffective post-rationalisation. I quite like short men too. Not those incapable of goal-kicking, mind, and certainly not those whose USP is arrogant and nasty boasting.

Ooh, I forgot something, must be my age. And it was this year:


Odd this. His future at the moment is a shoe-in at centre for England, consistently picked ahead of Krissy. Ouch, ouch, [uouch[/u!

Zod's been lurking for ages, so I'm expecting a loooonnnnggg reply, full of nastiness. Eyes down for Zod bullcrap bingo:
Parasite
Borista
harsh reality
Fox/Offiah
Sandercock/very excited
Saints finished as a play-off force
Joel Clinton fully fit and motivated
Wither champion hooker/missing piece of the jigsaw

Quote ="Marfa Manu"icon_eek.gif ..how far do you want to go back Ermmmm...the 4 nations team was picked on last season Kris scored 3 more tries than Kirk, though in fairness he played 2 more games so based on that I think it is safe to say [size=150offensively they are on par[/size...the defensive stats are the bit that make it clear why Kirk was picked over Kris though..simple really superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011 I look forward to your eagerly awaited response as to why Yeamo is not the best left centre in Hull still!'" Strange that you wanted facts yet choose to ignore them when they prove your quote to be incorrect. Welham is a more potent attacking player then Yeaman as proven by their respective try scoring records. McNamara ultimately is the only opinion that counts when it comes to current England selection but it doesn't mean he has it right. I'm far happier with Welham in the Rovers team than what Yeaman offers and Welham still has improvement in him.

Quote ="Marfa Manu"icon_eek.gif ..how far do you want to go back Ermmmm...the 4 nations team was picked on last season Kris scored 3 more tries than Kirk, though in fairness he played 2 more games so based on that I think it is safe to say [size=150offensively they are on par[/size...the defensive stats are the bit that make it clear why Kirk was picked over Kris though..simple really superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011 I look forward to your eagerly awaited response as to why Yeamo is not the best left centre in Hull still!'" Strange that you wanted facts yet choose to ignore them when they prove your quote to be incorrect. Welham is a more potent attacking player then Yeaman as proven by their respective try scoring records. McNamara ultimately is the only opinion that counts when it comes to current England selection but it doesn't mean he has it right. I'm far happier with Welham in the Rovers team than what Yeaman offers and Welham still has improvement in him.

Thought his special shorts were to keep the in when he cacks himself whenever yeaman goes near him

The facts are simple...The squad was chosen from last season's performances, as pointed out previously Welham clearly was not a more potent attacking player than Yeaman, he scored 1 more try, but his defense was a lot worse than Yeaman......Believe me it is not just McNamara who has this opinion, the facts & stats simply do not lie!!!
You come out with statements and fail to back them with anything resembling a solid fact...There are a number of players who should be in the team if we check their stats out for the last god knows how many years

.....I am bored of proving you wrong time & time again, I need a better challenge

Doubt welham will get near an international shirt unless he has a scottish grandfather. Once yeaman is out of the picture ben crooks will be a shoe in for the GB/England team

Hmm..you do need to factor in the fact Hull have had no halfbacks to speak of since Cooke left. How did Yeaman go in the last season we had a decent halfback combo? Yes, that's right, he was handing them off like a ramrod in the Dream Team. [uCurrently[/u Yeaman is better than Welham defensively, that's why he's in the international team. End of story.

BTW I thought Gil Dudson had a cracking first half tonight (got bored in the second, mind). You were correct, he would have been a good signing for Rovers.

You think Crooks will be ready for international football in 12 months time?

When 1 of Shenton, Atkins or Bridge are actually fit in October & November, Yeaman will be a shoe in for an extended off season.

This is true, but there was actually more to it than a Yeaman/Welham battle. Shenton's injury in the Grand Final handed Yeaman a call up (in my opinion of course).

Are internationals here or in Australia next year? If overseas, Yeaman will have declared himself unavailable anyway by then. Doesn't like to venture far, our Kirk.

Prove me wrong time and time again??
Feel free to list these fantasies
Are you ignorant,deluded or just plain stupid.
I have not once disputed that Yeaman is stronger in defence.
You cannot accept Welham is better in attack and because Yeaman had a decent try tally last season it doesn't put him on a par.
If Bobby Zamora scores more goals than Torres this season that doesn't make him the better attacker overall
Yeaman would not have saved some of the tries Welham did this season,they are different types of players.
Welham is faster,more athetic and more skilful then Yeaman
I could also throw in another fact in the the Champions Leeds made enquiries to sign Welham,not Yeaman.
You much more amusing across on your own forum pretending to be in the know about signing Rangi Chase then on here pretending to be some female Waynetta Bennett.

Correct. But that makes it [ueven more disappointing[/u for the heir apparent (Welham) to have been overlooked as the 6th best English centre (after Reed, Atkins, Shenton, Bridge and Senior (retired

)) in favour of a pedestrian halfwit like Yeaman. Bad times for East Hull's finest. Hearing he's also only your 6th favourite ginger after gingerspice, Little Robin Redhead, Chris Evans, Janet Devlin and Peter Elliott. Needs to raise his game. And stop modelling womens clothing. I'm sure he will.

How very convenient!



I thought it was Kingy who did the "BA Baracus" impression when it came to air travel?