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| Quote ="dum-dum"Which dan is he?'"
Seventh dan, white sash, catches worms with pliers, like Chakka Demus and Pliers, tease me, tease me, tease me dum dum, 'til I lose control...
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Seventh dan, white sash, catches worms with pliers, like Chakka Demus and Pliers, tease me, tease me, tease me dum dum, 'til I lose control...'"
Sounds deadly.
Back on topic, anyone know the dialing code for Papua New Guinea, I've been given a 'cell' number but there's not enough digits for it to ring.
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| Just watched the forum on Hull KR TV and Mike Smith clearly does know what is going on, so fair play and an apology to him.
Put simply, the news is that Dobson is off non-fed. Presumably another re-interpretation - players that had been here [ibefore[/i Feb 2008 get off, even they weren't here [iin[/i Feb 2008. See also Hull FC's new hooker.
Quota - Clinton, Green, Galea, Webster, Dobson.
Non-fed - Clinton, Green, Paea, Taulapapa ?, 1 free space.
The speculation seems to be that Taulapapa won't be joining Rovers after all, making space for Shannon McDonnell and Constantine Mika.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Just watched the forum on Hull KR TV and Mike Smith clearly does know what is going on, so fair play and an apology to him.
Put simply, the news is that Dobson is off non-fed. Presumably another re-interpretation - players that had been here [ibefore[/i Feb 2008 get off, even they weren't here [iin[/i Feb 2008. See also Hull FC's new hooker.
Quota - Clinton, Green, Galea, Webster, Dobson.
Non-fed - Clinton, Green, Paea, Taulapapa ?, 1 free space.
The speculation seems to be that Taulapapa won't be joining Rovers after all, making space for Shannon McDonnell and Constantine Mika.'"
So the "number" is..11?
McDonnell
Webster
Dobson
Green
Withers
Clinton
O'Hara
Paea
Mika
Lovegrove
Galea
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| Cant be bothered to scroll through endless threads about quota, non fed, home grown etc. How would it effect Chase if he plays for england? does he become homegrown or stay as an overs? its a minefield.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So the "number" is..11?
McDonnell
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Nope, 8.
[listWebster
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Withers
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Paea
Mika
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Potentially 9 with McDonnell.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Cant be bothered to scroll through endless threads about quota, non fed, home grown etc. How would it effect Chase if he plays for england? does he become homegrown or stay as an overs? its a minefield.'"
Wondered the same.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Cant be bothered to scroll through endless threads about quota, non fed, home grown etc. How would it effect Chase if he plays for england? does he become homegrown or stay as an overs? its a minefield.'"
Presumably, he would become non-federation (trained outside of the federation) and then exempt after 5 years.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Nope, 8.
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Potentially 9 with McDonnell.'"
It's 8 with McDonnell I think, Withers doesn't count as he was signed from Crusaders.
With Green and Clinton counting on both lists that's our 10.
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| Quote ="dum-dum"Nope, 8.
[listWebster
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Potentially 9 with McDonnell.'"
Why are you not counting Lovegrove and O'hara?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Why are you not counting Lovegrove and O'hara?'"
Lovegrove is exempt and has been for a few years now (not sure of the explanation, I'm sure someone will know) and O'Hara was signed from Crusaders and doesn't count on any quota, as all Crusaders players have special dispensation from the RFL when signing for other clubs.
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| Quote ="Kingston Rovers"Lovegrove is exempt and has been for a few years now (not sure of the explanation, I'm sure someone will know) and O'Hara was signed from Crusaders and doesn't count on any quota, as all Crusaders players have special dispensation from the RFL when signing for other clubs.'"
but they were both born overseas, isn't that the topic of the tital post, regardless if they have dispensation!
looked like rovers were doing well last season with their youngsters, how many will get a game next season with a full strength squad to pick from?
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| Quote ="number 6"but they were both born overseas, isn't that the topic of the tital post, regardless if they have dispensation!
looked like rovers were doing well last season with their youngsters, how many will get a game next season with a full strength squad to pick from?'"
Other than cheap point scoring, why do you give a shizzle?
You don't, thought so.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So the "number" is..11?
McDonnell
Webster
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Green
Withers
Clinton
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Mika
Lovegrove
Galea'"
For simplicity, yes - they're the 11 that would count as non-fed if it wasn't for exemptions and dispensations.
Not sure what will happen with George Griffin (or the lad Pearce at Hull), but for now I think they're young enough for it not to be an issue. And you'd have to say that they could legitimately feel aggreived if they didn't get dispensations, given the less than water-tight nature of the rule to date.
It's complicated by points scoring - on both sides of the chocolate river. Made easier by the complexity and ambiguity of it all. I notice we've started conflating 'local' and 'homegrown'.
I guess from Rovers point of view you have to consider it on three levels:
The Patriotic-moralistic - Whether you think a more stringently enforced quota will be good news for the England XVII or just for the next generation of Graham Holroyds and Mick Nanyns, Rovers have not been at the forefront of it.
The sporting-economic - It isn't pervisity that has led us here, it has been the incentives and imperitives we've found before us.
The political - perceptions matter, whether they are fair and reasonable or not. Other clubs ride out unpopularity - from Wigan's wrestling to Warrington's wage-bill wizardry. Probably better to be like this than a popular patsy like Cas. Probably.
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| Of Rovers 11 'foreign' players 6 are eligible to play for England.
So the full time squad of 32 contains 27 players eligible for England and also includes 17 players born in Hull. (And I'm assuming in those figures that the club will sign O'Donnell & Mika who would be part of a small group at Rovers not eligible for England).
So maybe someone can explain what the problem is for the national side or for Super League with the make up of Rovers squad.
I wonder if the 17 local born players can be matched by any other club in Super League? Do Leeds have 17 Leeds born players or Wigan 17 Wigan born players? Not sure TBH but 17 is a pretty impressive number surely.
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| Wigan could probably have had a full squad of Pie's if the previous administration hadn't binned most of them off.
Leeds' wouldn't count as they've probably stolen most of them from south of the Aire and should therefore be playing for Hunslet.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Of Rovers 11 'foreign' players 6 are eligible to play for England.
So the full time squad of 32 contains 27 players eligible for England and also includes 17 players born in Hull. (And I'm assuming in those figures that the club will sign O'Donnell & Mika who would be part of a small group at Rovers not eligible for England).
So maybe someone can explain what the problem is for the national side or for Super League with the make up of Rovers squad.
I wonder if the 17 local born players can be matched by any other club in Super League? Do Leeds have 17 Leeds born players or Wigan 17 Wigan born players? Not sure TBH but 17 is a pretty impressive number surely.'"
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| i dont really care what does it matter if half the team are overseas players we have got youngsters coming through and playing i just want to see a winning team why fans of other clubs are bothered baffles me its not as if we are cheating somehow
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Of Rovers 11 'foreign' players 6 are eligible to play for England.
So the full time squad of 32 contains 27 players eligible for England and also includes 17 players born in Hull. (And I'm assuming in those figures that the club will sign O'Donnell & Mika who would be part of a small group at Rovers not eligible for England).
So maybe someone can explain what the problem is for the national side or for Super League with the make up of Rovers squad.
I wonder if the 17 local born players can be matched by any other club in Super League? Do Leeds have 17 Leeds born players or Wigan 17 Wigan born players? Not sure TBH but 17 is a pretty impressive number surely.'"
To play devil's advocate - until Salter, Heil, Johnson, Peterson, Green and Ollet play SL, it is pushing it to count them. And both Hodgsons, Hall and Horne are the products of other clubs' systems.
On the other hand, is it any wonder that we 'interpret' the spirit of the rule? I've seen people say that Watts isn't really one of ours because he's from Castleford. So we claim 'Hull-born' and are held to the 'club-trained' criterion.
We are now in a position to build from the bottom-up, as mentioned by the chairman at the fans' forum, and the inclusion of so many young players in the full-time squad is definately one sign of that.
Off on a tangent - I see Jordan Tansey and Karl Pryce haven't got clubs for next year.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"
Off on a tangent - I see Jordan Tansey and Karl Pryce haven't got clubs for next year.
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There's a reason for that, the first one's and idiot and the second one's a massive pile of excrement.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Off on a tangent - I see Jordan Tansey and Karl Pryce haven't got clubs for next year.
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Has Senior sorted himself out yet?
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| Quote ="Chris28"Has Senior sorted himself out yet?
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wakefield or castleford apparantly
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| Quote ="Chris28"Has Senior sorted himself out yet?
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